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Bait nophono will fall for
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>>3931900Im not baiting I actual beleive in what I say and im not a deceitful little shit
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>>3931904Nigga can't even spell believe right I'm closer to whites than you and I'm a Seamonkey shitskin
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>>3931922I can spell im white and I won
>>3931914Im not hes a Titoist
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>communist vanguard in the big 26
'aped by billionaire philanthropists award
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>>3931940Billionaires lost workers won
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>>3931945Billionaires own every commie in muttmerica. Your all sissies and any genuine vanguard will be infiltrated and dispersed by the CIA and other glowies just like they did when the far right tried to organize. There is a reason the new left focused on culture.
(((philanthropists))) never cared fan about it and it wouldn't get 'aped.
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nigger
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Is this clogged and toiletpilled in Lakewood, New Jersey?
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>>3931970Yo jigsaw my man, let me live 😂✌️
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>>3931957There have successful commie orgs for a bit like cpusa which didnt become revisionist until the 2000s
>>3931962Im pro-work retard im against capital and private enterprise im for workers seizing the mean if production not abolishing it
>>3931971Kys projecting faggot
>>3931959Geg
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>>3931879 (OP)if communists werent faggots socially that hate christians and ytpipo they wouldn't be so bad
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Also does anybody have the basic logic but it's bnwo logic image?
▶ №3931989[Quote]>>3931999
>>3931987your hatred of whites is why your ideology always fails
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>>3931989I don't hate whites I was asking for an image you fucking nigger
>>3931988It's winning and feudalism is dead Snca
>>3931992You support work for workers to be in wage slavery I support work for workers to look for a common goal and fufill it collectively we are not the same
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>>3931999I've been in wage "slavery" all my life, I know people slightly better than me that did even more and own multiple homes.
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>>3932000blud thinks you can still buy a house working as a wagecuck in 2020's america
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>>3931999are you an anarkiddy?
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>>3931978>There have successful commie orgs for a bit like cpusa which didnt become revisionist until the 2000sDefine successful. Communism lost all its steam in Yankeeland after 1946, unions are dead compared to historical miliantism and as you just said it softened its touch and nophono outside of delusional students subscribe to it.
They would never let a genuine vangaurd develop to critical mass, just like with the right.
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>>3932008>definedefinedefineLet's shoot into the darkness instead or at the moon.
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>>3931879 (OP)Aryanlast namefag on /pol/
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>>3931999Out of ideas besides trips?
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>>3932022sup brutha from anutha mutha
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>>3931976You owe me a game though.
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>>3931976>>3931983DO YOU AGREE TO PLAY ME!?
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>>3932010This
>>3932008Communism is rising it had a 60s/70s/ revival and they had to do an entire red scare to destroy communism and it's rising now
And it's possible communists have done it before
>>3932004No
>>3932000Sounds like they joined the elite
>>3932021No
Im a go to bed it's like 3 30 am I'll do this tommorow bye
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>>3932069Show me the foolishnes in
>"Hard work pays, learning pays, did you min-max learning? No you haven't, I did, it's very difficult but all the work of your ancestors has provided you the means to do so at this time, if you refuse, then you refuse to become a true philosopher at this time. And such mental work takes years." My buddhist friend. ▶ №3932519[Quote]
>>3932069why are you so stillborn?
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Larp
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>>3932068Class mobility is a myth rags to riches is almost impossible it's a fairytale
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communism is cucked fuck communism glpry to the free market
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>saar im actually white saar not a mexican spicmutt
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Glpry
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>>3934973>i am anglo saxon>brown eyes>brown skinGEEEEEEEEG
▶ №3934989[Quote]>>3934993>>3934996
>>3934981Im also Celtic Anglo-Celt if you will
>>3934985I have white skin though I do have brown eyes and hair
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>>3934993Im mainly from the Scottish highlands though a lot of Scot's have Anglo ancestry so…
▶ №3934996[Quote]>>3934999
>>3934989You have the skin of the average amerimutt.
You are brown
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>>3934995what's your clan
▶ №3934999[Quote]>>3935010
>>3934996FUCK OFF EUROTARD ITS AMERIMUTT HOURS SHUT THE FUCK UP GO BACK WHY THE FUCK /POL/ FILLED EUROPE AMERICA IS WHITE
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>>3934973You are just ugly nigga
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>>3935002Well said holmes
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*who
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>>3935007Go back to your nigger-filled macdonald
Filthy commie spic
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>>3935007Yes you are accept it
▶ №3935018[Quote]>>3935028>>3935043
>>3935010Just because I said 'murica white doesn't mean im an American supremacist now and just because I said the third world is opposed by the 1st world doesnt mean im a third worldist
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>>3935015No im handsome my girlfriend said so
>>3935014Go back to your mosque mudslime
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>>3935010Seize the means of burger production from obsessed yuropoors or something like that
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>>3935018You are a thirld worlder on american soil
>>3935022There's no mosque where i live
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>>3935025No also my slopjak is on the ru I changed some things
>>3935028France is like 10% Muslim im not an immigrant Im an American Anglo-Celt
>>3935031Tsmt
>>3935033Looks like shit
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>>3935034>admitting you look like shit SPICBRQS….
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>>3935034America is 75% niggerified and 15% spicQWNED
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>>3935040GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGYou just proved that you are a spic btw
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go back to the booru nobody fucking cares about you here
nobody likes your kind boorugger
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>>3935040Looks like you are about to be in a cartel beheading video, why so scared of the DNB machete?
▶ №3935062[Quote]>>3935073>>3935118
>>3935043How is saying im white some how white supremacist Theres like middle for you guys it's either pure hatred or pure fanaticism for race
Third worldists believes the workers are to much of treatlerites to do a revolution I don't beleive that third worldist isnt believing the third world exists and THEYRE oppressed
An I claim not a 3rd worldist because I beleive socialism is possible in the west rightoids don't know what it means and thinks it's anybody that's say 3rd woekders arent subhuman
And I don't want bait I want to convert people to communism and you will never be white power rothbardian
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>>3935044No im white Anglo-Celt
>>3935051I 1st started Namefaging on /pol/
>>3935054Fake
>>3935058>>3935060>>3935049Nigger im whiter than you except the Swede im a desendent of the celts
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>>3935043>>3935062I started using third worldist as a term before anybody on the right did I know more third worldist than you
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>>3935040yeah you're def an anglo mutt geg
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communism could only work in places like japan
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>>3935076No way that's you maybe your father
>>3935080Zionist
>>3935084>>3935085Anglos arent mutts im Anglo-Celtic warrior I have pale skin
>>3935090Why do you guys act like Mexican Mexico is like so far away from NYC metro
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>>3935093How and why hasn't Japan become communist then
▶ №3935105[Quote]>>3935109
>>3935099assasination of inejero asanuma
▶ №3935107[Quote]>>3935112
>>3935100Not even true America has killed the most nigger in history only behind the Brit's doe why do people act like America is this friendly brown and black country when it's extremely to brown people just look at Somalia Libya viertnam Iraq Afghanistan Syria etc…
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>>3935105True I guess though how come non-jap countries have been communist like Angola South Yemen east Germany etc…
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>>3935107All false
The brits, french, germans and belgians have killed way more than the us geg
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>>3935094>I have pale skinyou might have pale skin but youre still a mystery meat bonanza spicmutt
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>>3935113We cant dismiss the abo/nigger nose
▶ №3935116[Quote]>>3935142
>>3935113Your a fucking Slovenian your not even white Slovenians are raped south Slavic Germanic Turk mutts
▶ №3935118[Quote]>>3935145
>>3935062>for you guys it's either pure hatred or pure fanaticism for raceI don't think all non-Whites need to be slaughtered because they aren't White nor do I incessantly defend everything White individuals and nations have ever done. I also consider myself an anti-imperialist.
>Third worldists believes the workers are to much of treatlerites to do a revolution I don't beleive that third worldist isnt believing the third world exists and THEYRE oppressedYou're very esl for someone who claims to be Anglo-Saxon.
>An I claim not a 3rd worldist because I beleive socialism is possible in the west rightoidsThat's stupid. The idea that the west would succumb to a proletarian revolution first has to be one of the most unequivocally disproven tenants of orthodox Marxism.
>And I don't want bait I want to convert people to communismYou're doing nothing short of an abysmal job if this is true.
>you will never be white power rothbardianIt is me. I often come to your defense for keks, but sometimes your retardation is too much and I can't help but join in with the others mocking you.
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>>3935115Nose if fine
>>3935113Im Anglo-Celt I'll do the ancestry test shortly
▶ №3935123[Quote]>>3935145
>>3935109north vietnam was communist which is why the vietnam war happened
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>>3935116Amerimutt geography knowledge
you DO know that if you hover over the flag it tells you the country
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>>3935123Yes didnt refute what I said
>>3935118>anti-imperialist>wants browns to dieHow will you do this without imperialism?
>fuggen ESL Im not treatlerites is a term for a worker that won't do anything to stop Hitler like genocide because he has some money(treats) the communist version of "docile nigger cattle"
im doing good and converting kinda im doing entryism into the soysphere
And I thought white power rothbardian only uses 1 image?
>>3935123I know
>>3935130No im Anglo-Celt my great grandfather was born in the highland and my mother and her father and his father and so on are very Scottish even having freckles and shit with my mom until like her 30s being blonde
>>3935132Nigger
>>3935142Im on iPad so I can't but it's the Slovakian flag which is white they look very similar sorry especially when it's so tiny
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>>3935145Cut ally Slovakia isnt white
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>>3935145If they starved to death with zero international aid that would be cool, but I'm fine with simply deporting non-Whites and pursuing ethnic separation henceforth.
>im doing good and converting kinda im doing entryism into the soysphereNo, you aren't, bro. Hang up the towel cause you're not Alunya Spaniard.
>And I thought white power rothbardian only uses 1 image?Then you're very unfamiliar with this board that you're trying and failing entryism on.
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absolutely fucking terrible
im visiting Czechia but im from Russia, i fucking despise every single communist for what they have done to my beloved country
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>>3935158At least alunya is coherent
This nigger is a cattle that eats whatever kikes want him to
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>>3935168>>3935084geg look at his irises they're all jagged and shitted. living slopjak
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nigga i dont understand half the words youre saying
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>>3935157Im like 60-70% Celt
>>3935158The Africans wouldnt die they would form their own countries that woukd prosper
Nah we keep winning
IVE been on /pol/ since spring 2026 I joined /soy/ in like 2024
>>3935163Nigger
>>3935167Communist turned russia from a peasant back water to the 1st in space in less than 50 years that fucking impressive
>>3935168Im not cattle im apart of the resistance to the capitalists IVE even had to police notify about things I won't talk about
>>3935176No my eyes are normal and my jaw line is pronounced and my skin is pale
>>3935178Geg /pol/ is filled with europoors it's like midnight for them why are they here
>>3935182Giga
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>>3935192YOU ARENT WHITE OCCITAN
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>>3935187communism failed and all you are doing is theory crafting and dreaming. i bet you in 100 years 10000 years their will be no communist unified world nor a world of mostly communist nations
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>>3935192And im against the current government how Ami pro state?
>>3935197Communism is rising we have communist states just look at North Korea Laos China etc.. we're coming back
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>>3935192You look like that one guy from brave
jewsney movie ▶ №3935204[Quote]
>>3935198HOW THE FUCK AM I SPIC I HAVE 0 SOIC BLOOD YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>3935200>china a capitalistic nation that acts like a capitalistic nation also a shithole>cuba also a shithole who introduced private propertygeg
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>>3935209Cuba is making some reforms that I don't like but THEYRE still communist AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE MARKETS DIESNT MAKE IT. APITALIST YOU FUCKING LUSTEN TO CHINESE COMMUNISTS HOW THEYRE SNTI-CAPITALIST YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>3935210Holy shit actual Aryan
>>3935207Mpa
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>>3935199(switched to pc so id changed)
>t. 15% amerindian ▶ №3935216[Quote]>>3935226
>>3935212stop sperging autistic retard. also communism isnt a system of intention. its a system of economics and actions. so no it doesnt matter what they want for the last 30 years they have been capitalists
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>>3935214Im lm majority white
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>>3935212you are either communist or you arent their is no inbetween. unless your socialist but that wouldnt be communism now would it
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>>3935217im im
>majoritywhy not fully
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>>3935219>blonde hair blue eyes Le bad>>3935220China is communist and so am I
>>3935221Im not fully because I don't who my father is I was a sperm donor
>>3935228Your a fucking Slav Uralic Hungarian Germanic mutt
>>3935229Holy shit fuck you your just some urotard Cumskin that somehow thinks communists are in charge of anything in the west when they arent
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>>3935226any system's merit is based on action and china has done no action to change. >Private companies >billionaires >Stock exchanges >Consumer culture >Property usage
yup issa capitalism
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>>3935235You are the retard for thinking that blindly following a globalist kike who will treat you as a slave for all your life is communist/heckin based and redpilled
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>>3935235i dont care what you believe or want. i care what governments do and china simply has thrown away communism for capitalism
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>>3935235>my father was a sperm donorI CANT
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>>3935242because why the fuck would you raise this abomination. throw it to the boars gegggggg
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>>3935237Consumerism are allowed under communism you ultra they heavily clamp down on and they don't bail out private companies which capitalist nations Dont do
You can have billionaires and pre-capitalist markets under communism and property usage you can also have unde communism
>>3935236I have white blood
>>3935239Which globalist kike am I following the ones made up in your head?
>>3935241Me on the right
>>3935242>>3935245That's Giga though I wish she hadn't though without tat I wouldn't be here so here race mixing(not sperm donor) was good
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>>3931879 (OP)Bro you are not alunya kys
▶ №3935252[Quote]>>3935288
communisn has nothing to do in accepting faggots those are separete thing communism is the best istem for the future but the modern left (you) is just retarded and thinks left=free thing, I am a leftist because I want work food and education for the people you want "communism" because it is the first thing that got to your brain
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>>3935249>you have billionaires and everything the west has in communismyou are actually retarded if you think this is a good argument. you are just admitting that statists will larp as communists but act like capitalists and never reach the end state of communism which is a classless moneyless system
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>>3935251I dont thing that somebody whit those genetics would be able to donate sperm
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>>3935250Alunya would have made good points and do a good debate this guy is just geting gang raped
▶ №3935265[Quote]>>3935288
>>3935260Because he admitted never reading theory.
This nigger doesnt even know what communism is
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>>3935260Yes it was always interesting debating with alunya. It is clear for me that this guy is either just baiting or mentally retarded.
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>>3935260no she wouldnt. the practical state of communism just destroys any argument. it doesnt matter. i have met like one good communist who made good arguments and they werent the ones who support authoritarianism
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>>3935266how can a communist be more of a zogged mutt then me? its a insane feat to accomplish
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>>3935249>Anders, the submararines can be annywhere we have to watch out>Whats that behind you Sven?*sees beached soviet submarine*
>OhTldr: Don't get drunk and crash nuclear submarines into other countries territory
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>>3935276apparently these guys were our strongest enemy btw
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>>3935251Im still white even if I my father is unknown
>>3935252I don't mind faggots I don't beleive in idpol
I don't think left is free thing and im not agpart of the modern left
And I want communism because it makes logical sense like I don't mind if somebody is for or against faggots im more focused on class
>>3935255China is going towards communism they are trying to achieve it and the west is dominated by capital China isnt and for socialism you need a state anarkiddy
>>3935257They are no communist elites it's a distraction THEYRE capitalists and im not a editor I got banned off of r/communism for supporting China and Hua guofeng
>>3935266Im not ESL im EFL and im smart
>>3935265 Never admitted that I do read theory retard I know. What communism is
>>3935276Marge
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Hi liam
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>>3935288im not a anarchist but im not retarded enough to believe statists will give up their power once they have it. you expect people who think exactly like capitalists (gain as much power through any means) will give up power to become a moneyless classless state? your dreaming buddy and deluded. no they arent and you have no proof of that geg
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>>3935271Im not a zog hes mutt
>>3935260Im not getting gang raped
>>3935268Authoritarianism ain't real and communism is doing good and if that's the case whats the state of nazism in?
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>>3935288You did in an alunya thread. You said you never read the capital
Only some snca stalin book (none of them were about communism THOUGH)
▶ №3935319[Quote]>>3935336
>>3935303communism and nazism are both failed moronic idealogies. both sides of the same fucked up coin. one just uses race and the other class but both resulted in the deaths of millions because of the small minds and small cocks of childish dictators
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>>3935303>american>supports globlalism>supports giving up rights for X governmentyup issa zogged mutt
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>>3935302China is majoirty state owned enterprises which are by and for the workers
>>3935299It's not about the state giving up power but building a new state for example the ussr was very democratic
>>3935309I did read some of japital not all of it and IVE read the communist manifesto and other Marx Stalin Lenin etc… writings
>>3935310Authoritarianism doesnt mean anything it's a liberal buzzword that tries to say the Nazis and commies are they same which they arent
>>3935319Communism isnt dictatorial difdnt kill millions and you sound lolbert just because something is based and group or collective diesnt make it the same libertarianism is retarded where did these lolberts come from?
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>>3935333When did I support globalism or giving up my rights I support international proletariat against the international bourgeois and I support workers liberation and a revolution
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>>3935336>ive read the 1st page of duh capituh and uhhhhh the pamphlet that commies give you on the streets….geg
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>>3935336A not a lolbert B authoritarianism is just autocracy retard C why would they build a new state that gives the people more power and inherently limits their power again retarded point. D look up the holodomor or the tsars family getting killed or the gulags or how they killed off the middle class or literally any aspect of soviet history you retarded amerimutt. you realize you make assumptions about the world and history or no basis in reality just like a fat american capitalist pig dog geg
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>>3935342IVE read 10-15 chapters of kapital it's a very long and big book
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>>3935338>i support giving up my rights so their could maybe might be a communist world systemgeg
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>>3935346Ive read all of it
You havent even finished the 1st volume and you call yourself a free thinking communist
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>>3935336communism when practically tried always devolves into dictatorship geg
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>>3935359ive read none of it and i already know its retarded geg
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>>3935363Marx isnt retarded, he made some great points. I used to be a communist actually. Das capital is a great book, it has flaws and is often misinterpreted by brannigers but its not horrible
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>>3935389marx got it wrong. its a biological issue first and foremost and class/social issues must be fixed after. capitalism will always be the natural state and human biology leans into it. fix human biology and social education can stick
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>>3935389True I like marx
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>>3935395i really dont want to respond to voice clips. i dont want to listen to some fat nigger yap about other peoples points geg
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>>3935398You never read him NIGGER
You are a worshipping cattle feeding on kikes
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>self inserts as buff aryan
>gets brutally raped
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>>3935397I dont believe in capitalism being natural. At least not the capitalism that most people think of. Our society wasnt capitalist in the very beginning.
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>>3935399Die faggot im white you guys are just projecting
>>3935401No nigger im not a Zionist how the fuck an I zog bot mutt you guys are defending the free market actual cattle Kek
>>3935402It's easier since I don't have to type on my iPad as much and do spelling mistakes that you guys say are Le ESL
>>3935403Im not I have read him why do you say this
>>3935416You guys are just projecting on to me
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I'll have to a poll later since for some reason everybody doesnt say their ideology and is a lolbert or a Nazi but doesnt say it
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>>3935395A again not a lolbert retard and my word is law. B ddint argue the point whyw ould they make a state that gives the people more rights ergo more power answer. C holodomor wasnt natural. his children dying wasnt justified gulags werent justified and youd idnt explain your schema for any of this and no it wasnt a good thing doesnt justify the deaths of people who had no ill intention again making asserations with no proof and the tsars were already making the country better by improving literacy rates etc the soviets justkilled millions to get to a place they wouldve already gotten to within time. and D you make assumptions about the world or history with no understanding or deeper justification just like a mutt. i do the same but i dont larp that i am the all knowing god like you do retard. and these are the points im responding too
▶ №3935431[Quote]>>3935488
>>3935420also projection saying that we must be fascists or lolberts because we dont agree with your points. lord emperor
▶ №3935436[Quote]>>3935451>>3935488>>3935539
>>3935429this guy is actually making me hate my own country and people. its crazy how one annoying retard can make me consider to forsake nationalism geg
▶ №3935442[Quote]>>3935446
>>3935403I think Evropa instinctively has negative views on communism because we are well aware of the problems that come with a one party communist state, iE Soviet union. Shame some Antifa fags can't figgure out comunism is bad geg.
▶ №3935445[Quote]>>3935451>>3935455>>3935488
The moment your ideology is based off of any kind of materialism/physicalism it's over.
Communists and fascists still haven't figured out that the current technocratic dictatorship can't be solved through means hijacked by the establishment to sow polarization and division anyway.
It should be evident by now after a billion schisms that there is no political solution to depavity of any kind other than possibly removing it from the public sphere, but with time, policies relax and thus you rinse and repeat. The ethos of a nation determines whether it is exploitative,whether it is unjust, and the rest. Communism and fascism both failed because they're Godless nihilistic cults with no actual values with which one upholds the general populace.
Communism in america will faik just as badly as fascism,.and it already is, as is the current NWO status quo because the status of our issues as spiritual ailments is becoming more and more evident with each passing day and conflict that stirs up all against all irrespective of whatever their affiliation is.
▶ №3935446[Quote]>>3935453>>3935488
>>3935442its mostly because americans are sheltered from the actual affects of these movements so can follow the most braindead shit geg
▶ №3935450[Quote]>>3935462
YWNBAW Liam
▶ №3935451[Quote]>>3935457>>3935488
>>3935436Hopefully america isnt an ethno-state yet. meaning you can cleanse of those shitskins retard off the face of your land
>>3935445Wont reply because he cant comprehend what you are saying
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>>3935446Good point goyim
▶ №3935455[Quote]>>3935499
>>3935445political violence is the only way btw
▶ №3935457[Quote]>>3935461
>>3935451praise allah or something
▶ №3935461[Quote]>>3935464
>>3935457We say this for good luck in paris
▶ №3935464[Quote]>>3935477>>3935482
>>3935461i think its customary to rape a foid with 5 other fighting aged males also
▶ №3935477[Quote]>>3935478
>>3935464Only at the end of Ramadan!
▶ №3935488[Quote]>>3935497>>3935527>>3935528>>3935552
>>3935429I have why do you think I haven't?
>>3935431So you're a liberal /conservative? On /pol/?
>>3935445Words words technocracy diesnt fucking work it's irrelevant and material reality mobs analytics and spiritualism
>>3935436Even though I'm anti-Americanism sounds like im doing a good job
>>3935446No you don't have to live or be or expierebce something to have a voice on it
>>3935451I support multi-cultural iam
>>3935428The state woukd serve the interests of the proletariat holodomor was caused by natural disasters Stalin didnt do big spoon the children could've grown up to overthrow the Soviet Union the people in gulags were just normal criminals the people they killed were revisionists liberals and Nazis and needed to happen fr stability
The tsar was holding the country back the Soviets made literacy go up from 28% to 100% in like 10 years the Soviets did make some mistakes and killed 3 million though most systemas have killed millions capitalism has killed 1.7 billion while the Nazis killed 60 million I have understanding of history im not a mutt I have a Marxist analyisysis of history i]and im not all knowing
▶ №3935497[Quote]>>3935518
>>3935488You said it yourself
Are you actually retarded geg? Nigger is so mutted he lacks brain basic functions
▶ №3935499[Quote]>>3935541
>>3935455I mean, I don't blackpill when it comes to anything, but violence solves about as much as voting does.
You'd have to uproot everything from the Milner group onward, basically, and no matter the amount of violence, it won't help.
You'd have to get rid of international banking, get rid of the entire surveillance industry,get rid of nearly every lobbying group, etc.
We ought to Listen to St. Seraphim Rose and recognize that political utopia is a dead end, regardless of which type it js meant to be. Pride and greed was the downfall of socialism and it is slowly destroying monopoly capitalism.
These are universal issues of human vulnrability to sin we are dealing with that don't find their resolve in party agendas or constitutions.
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>>3935482
Who wins?
▶ №3935518[Quote]>>3935534
>>3935497Said what myself I read theory and your the fucking you are a wog wogs arent white
▶ №3935524[Quote]>>3935593
>>>3935497 (You)
>Said what myself I read theory and your the fucking you are a wog wogs arent white
Totally not a spic btw
Descendants of the celt BTW
▶ №3935525[Quote]>>3935593
>>3931879 (OP)OP are you turkish
▶ №3935527[Quote]>>3935593
>>3935488Where was I advocating technocracy? I was literally condemning it and saying neither you nor fascists can solve it (as it is our main form of governance now in the allegedly civilized west).
▶ №3935528[Quote]>>3935593
>>3935488again why would the state do this didnt answer. what incentive to do this for statists? you have no idea and you dont kill people because they maybe could do something years later that is retarded and psychopathic. no you do have to live somewhere to have a voice in it. i cant say that the current leadership of germany should do X policy because A im not in germany and B im not mentored in such thing. i mean i could but it would be from a outsider without a on the ground sort of experience so it would be worthless to them just as you supporting communism is worthless to survivors of communism geg or even people who like communism and lived in the soviet union. im a deist who has opinions that can fit on both sides of the isle. my main beliefs are being anti status quo and pro change
▶ №3935534[Quote]>>3935593
>>3935518>i have read 15 chapters of muh capital>I READ MARXdo goyims really?
▶ №3935539[Quote]>>3935545>>3935593
>>3935436he's almost definitely vaxxed so we'll be rid of his bloodline shortly even if he does manage to rape a foid
▶ №3935541[Quote]>>3935578>>3935593
>>3935499dont you think that if a disaster or revolution happend in the states that it would spread to the rest of the world through globalism? i agree we need to fix our biology before social education can follow.
▶ №3935552[Quote]>>3935562>>3935593
>>3935488Materialists can't escape empiricism and empiricists can't escape Quine, Quine can't escape his unjustifiable epistemology.
You premise your entire worldview on the worst possible framework of philosophy.
▶ №3935562[Quote]>>3935625>>3935630
>>3935552empiricism/science is a good tool but horrible for a actually worldview as the universe without any philsophical pov or anything seems meaningless (it isnt but it seems like that to us geg without something more then just what we see or can examine)
▶ №3935578[Quote]>>3935591
>>3935541It would probably affect the rest of the world, but considering how Western control over Eurasia hasn't been established yet and Asian nations are largely granted independence (or alternatives) from relying on Western resources, anything east of poland would probably largely adapt to the absence of American power.
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>>3935578this is something i dont want. i want the entire global world system to fall. i want total chaos and anarchy so the wheel of history and the constant of the universe can be fulfilled. it only matters if it changes not if its good change or bad as 10000 years of neoliberal hell would be the worst outcome
▶ №3935593[Quote]>>3935606>>3935613>>3935622>>3935623>>3935640>>3935659
>>3935524Im Celtic
>>3935525No im Celtic
>>3935527What ideology are you then
>>3935528IVE a Swede red this THERE WOULD STATE FIUNDED BY THE WORKERS SO THAT WOULDNT BE A PROBLEM SINDE THERE IS NO SUPREMEME LEADER they were conspiring with outside forces ad trying to topple the government Stalin shouldve killed more of them
No you don't have to live somewhere by tgis logic men can't speak on anything women do this is just identity politics and if you understand something you should speak on it and I beleive in international solidarity so I support defending socialism also your ideology can encompass basically anything and
>survivors/victims of communismGive me a break
>>3935534That's reading Marx you don't have to read all of Marx writings to be a Marxist for example I bet the average Chinese 12 year old hasn't read all 3 volumes but is still a Marxist
>>3935539Vaccines Dont make you infertile do what China did with the vaccines
>>3935541True i]the USA will probably end up in a 2nd civil war in like 20 years similar to tf2 I'd imagine
>>3935552No materialists won and reality matters not abstract metaphysics
▶ №3935606[Quote]>>3935658
>>3935593i dont care what you think about the future of this country as you are completely zogged and a retarded commie. no your idealogy cant encompass anything you retard then its not a idealogy and your larping. their has been no communist state upkept purely by the workers their has always been a supreme leader to control it retard as its the interim between revolution and classless moneyless society geg
▶ №3935613[Quote]>>3935658
>>3935593materalism has created the shithole the world is in today geg
▶ №3935622[Quote]>>3935628>>3935658
>>3935593He is a cattle, like all children are. You cannot be a real Marxist without even reading the one and only founding book of all his ideology
▶ №3935623[Quote]>>3935658
>>3935593also i said to have a meaningful opinion. you can have a opinion on anything but you not living their or having skin in the game means your opinion doesnt mean much
▶ №3935625[Quote]>>3935639
>>3935562this isn't a problem with empiricism or science, it's a result of sabotaging empiricism to discount everything in existence that can't be seen with a photon. all metaphysics, the existence of the soul, the existence of spirits and animus, and the overlapping planes of existence orthogonal to this one. their astronomical models are pure slop that have to fill in 94% of all mass-energy with "uh it's a mystery dark matter bro uhhhhhhhhh idk" because they're mind broken and can't accept empirical truths proven over and over for thousands of years.
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>>3935622dude reading is like bourgeois o algo
▶ №3935630[Quote]>>3935649
>>3935562Empiricism's failings are not just in teleology, btw, though that is a good argument, too.
As Quine proved, claiming anything to be knowable a priori in empiricism is unjustifiable, but if you reject a priori truths, you are once again left just asserting empiricism as true, and literally cannot make justified claims, not to mention that it forces you into nominalism, in which case you can't even define what the sense data or stimuli from which you derive your epistemology are or why they, despite having no ontological commonality with one another,are to be taken as the only valid set of epistemic tools.
Also, in regards to communism, why would an anti-establisbment ideology promote scientism, materialism and atheism, which is the defining characteristic from which western secularism and thus also democracy and capitalism are derived?
▶ №3935639[Quote]>>3935654>>3935672
>>3935625geg this reminds me the underlying reason our universe is here according to science is drum roll please ………………………………………………………………………………………. *random quantum fluctuations* geg
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>>3935593Materialism is a metaphysical claim.
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>>3935630and im guessing the elite and companies using experts to lie and cheat and everyone just accepting it and putting FAITH into them doesnt help this right?
▶ №3935658[Quote]>>3935667>>3935670>>3935675
>>3935606HOW THE FUCK I]AM I PRO GOVERNMENT ZOGBOT IF IM COMMUNIST HOW IS IDEOLGIES ENCOMPASSING THINGS NOT AN IDEOLOGY? The Soviet Union didnt have a supreme leader but a suprememe Soviet with the cabinet being extremely powerful that's why there was no specific title that always went to the leader but multiple titles vanguard isnt the same as a dictatorship communism is inherently democratic
>>3935613No it hasn't it's the most logical
>>3935622How I do read
>>3935623This is just identetariahism idpol bullshit anti-intellectualism
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>>3935593I challenge you to prove materialism without contradicting yourself by appealing to universals which don't and logically can't exist in your worldview or without a circular argument while also actually having a real justification.
▶ №3935662[Quote]>>3935708
>>3935654dude but like the multiverse which i have no proof for but it totally real marvel movies o algo
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Why do you think I haven't read Marx? Proof and how am I cattle how do I support the government I haven't heard why people think this
▶ №3935667[Quote]>>3935684
>>3935658What's "logic" in materialism?
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>>3935658Oh you debooked me! instead of a supreme leader its an oligarchy got me!!!!!!
▶ №3935675[Quote]>>3935684
>>3935658thinking that logic was anything else but a tool for humanity to better conquer the world and nature just shows how little you know geg
▶ №3935680[Quote]>>3935699
>Why do you think I haven't read Marx? Proof and how am I cattle how do I support the government I haven't heard why people think this
You said yourself that you havent read him. You are genuinely a retard
>im not a cattle i dont support the gov
This is the exact reason you are a cattle
▶ №3935684[Quote]>>3935692>>3935727
>>3935667Reality
>>3935675The fuck logic is real what do you mean?
▶ №3935685[Quote]>>3935698
>>3935672i mean you can always just keep asking over and over
>why are random quantum fluctuations their? >what created the quantum fluctuations? you can literally act like a toddler asking questions over and over and science loses geg
▶ №3935692[Quote]>>3935702
>>3935684logic is real but basing your entire reason for existance and purpose on purely logical/empirical meanings will just lead you to nihlism geg. im sorry to tell you this but no one knows the full truth of everything and humans are dreamers not insects
▶ №3935698[Quote]>>3935703
>>3935685And what if i said, that i dont know
Why would i need an answer right now?
Im not a sciencuck but…
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>>3935680I never said this I said that you don't renew to read all of Marx to be a communist IVE read the festo das kapital and more
>being against the government is cattle nowAlright just fucking nuke the servers it's over what does cattle even mean anymore fuck it im leaving this shit man(im not retiring or taking a break)
▶ №3935702[Quote]>>3935707
>>3935692I don't base my self on logic
▶ №3935703[Quote]>>3935724
>>3935698well then it breaks the narrative and overwhelming belief by normgroids that science is unbreakable and can explain everything geg
▶ №3935707[Quote]>>3935721
>>3935702then why are you larping that you do
▶ №3935710[Quote]
>>>3935680 (You)
>I never said this I said that you don't renew to read all of Marx to be a communist IVE read the festo das kapital and more
>>being against the government is cattle now
>Alright just fucking nuke the servers it's over what does cattle even mean anymore fuck it im leaving this shit man(im not retiring or taking a break)
Just to be sure
Can everybody approve that he's a genuine retard? Im shocked on how clueless he is
▶ №3935717[Quote]>>3935719
>>3935708i know geg. i think that humans see the truth but we only see like 5 percent of it
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>>3935717we see 6% of it geg
▶ №3935721[Quote]>>3935730
>>3935707I don't I base my self on material reality
▶ №3935724[Quote]>>3935749
>>3935703The belief is that science will eventually explain everything. Based off progress and research
▶ №3935727[Quote]>>3935761>>3935835
>>3935684>Logic is just what reality isIf logic is equivalent to reality and reality is purely material you literally concede that you share Quine's view and thus have no justification to even believe in the laws of logic being authoritative or absolute.
You are also, in your view, saying, "materialism is true because it aligns closest to materialism", so you cannot provide a non-circular Argument.
▶ №3935730[Quote]>>3935835
>>3935721i think you do and you are only saying this to seem more nuanced and reasonable
▶ №3935749[Quote]>>3935768
>>3935724again this is cope by atheists who act more reasonable and nuanced then they are. they worship science on a psychological level and it fulfills the same thing as theists. both try to explain away the universe or give clarity but their is none. we will never fully explain or understand the universe nor will we get clarity on it. the meaning we do add is how we win against the black abyssal maw
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>>3935672Buddhist Void theory is on point and I have no reason to see why the first mover Himself couldn't have assembled out of ex nihilo flux if zero and nothingness truly are completely false concepts
▶ №3935761[Quote]>>3935772
>>3935727i think their is one absolute imo. not physics or heat or air or anything like that. change is the only constant thing. change of anything and change can be good
▶ №3935768[Quote]>>3935773
>>3935749Science worship is an extension of the Nietzschen existentialist post-Christian religion.
It is telling that in his deepest doubt and despair, he did not turn to foreign philosophies or religions, or politics, but implicitly confesses that it is either Christ or nihilism.
We are in varying stages of nihilism societally, as per St. Seraphim Rose. Scientism is one such nihilist endeavor.
▶ №3935772[Quote]>>3935777>>3935811
>>3935761Constant flux destroys identity over time, though.
▶ №3935773[Quote]>>3935790
>>3935768atheism and nihilsm are the worst things of the modern age. they kill off the one part of being human. to dream. everything is a number or coded or is because of something else. no mystery dreams or love in a system like that. it disgusts me and i oppose it
▶ №3935777[Quote]>>3935796
>>3935772well sometimes things must die off and a new plant must grow. i love the roman empire but i wouldnt want it to be eternal as much as i would like that i know it would be bad for humanity
▶ №3935790[Quote]>>3935801
>>3935773Well, it is important to recognize our enemy as the atheism and nihilism itself and its adherents as the our fallen fellow men.
St. Seraphim knew this and he turned to monasticism, helping many with his asceticism and writings.
Heated debates do little in comparison to Orthodox life, but a bit of logic and debate can be a good intro to many in dragging them out of atheism and nihilism.
▶ №3935796[Quote]>>3935812
>>3935777I though you meant flux in the philosophical sense.
▶ №3935801[Quote]>>3935817
>>3935790i think its mostly a product of urban living. in a mostly rural society its harder for these beliefs to stick as the sense of community and drive basically kills off hopelessness but in a society overreliant on urbanization like the one we live in now it atomizes people and makes them feel like nothing matters
▶ №3935811[Quote]>>3935822
>>3935772crystallized identities smother consciousness and spirit across entire civilizations. all things are flux. trying to "stabilize" and suppress waveforms into Euclidean geometry actually damages reality and when applied to conscious beings the dynamics of unchanging, immortal social structures smother entire civilizations in misery every single time.
▶ №3935812[Quote]>>3935829
>>3935796i mean flux in all senses. that is the constant of the universe. do i support too much change? no. i support moderation but i can also realize that the universe leans heavily into change of all types physical and philsophical included. but i do think that philsophical changes matter but i do agree it can lead to a destruction of idenity if overindulged in
▶ №3935817[Quote]>>3935825
>>3935801The urban enviroment itself assaults man with its utilitarianism, nihilism and ugliness. No corporate building built for the sake of fueling the sin of judas can possibly be beautiful.
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Communism is keyed because I don't like people who are rich or have good genes or wealth and they deserve to die and have their assets reappropriated for making me feel inferior to them.
▶ №3935822[Quote]>>3935851
>>3935811what about physical immortality but a society that is constantly mentally culturally and socially changing?
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>>3935817trvthtsarbomba of the highest order btw
▶ №3935829[Quote]>>3935845
>>3935812What I meant is that some things logically cannot change, or else your worldview breaks. For instance, the laws of logic can't be subject to change.
▶ №3935835[Quote]>>3935840
>>3935727I didn't say that logic is real not logic is all reality
>>3935730No I base myself on material reality
▶ №3935845[Quote]>>3935857
>>3935829for a practical sense and the current foundational makeup of the reality we live in currently sure they cant change. but for all of human history across time and space? i wouldnt be so sure. maybe divine logical truths can be changed over time but such change will take so long it will seem eternal to us.
▶ №3935849[Quote]>>3935873
>>3935840I said logic is not all reality autocorrect is raping me with turning left into keft for example
▶ №3935851[Quote]>>3935861>>3935872
>>3935822so here's the thing, we're going through a lesser version of the problem of immortality with the boomer generation. the gerontocracy has lived and held their social positions for too long without appointing successors and letting the next generations participate in civics. in video games this would be called a "stale meta" where the overall strategy of participating in American society has been analyzed, thoroughly cracked, and is now being exploited by the experts who have multiple times the experience of the younger generations. and they're fucking dipshits who are actively running scams on their children and blowing generational wealth breeding cancerous Beasts like OP. in the Death Squared rat utopia experiments Calhoun's conclusion was that the lack of proper social positions to fit into drives the entire population of rats extinct, over and over again, well before they even get close to reaching the limits of their food and space.
▶ №3935857[Quote]>>3935865
>>3935845The laws of Logic are universal and unchanging. It doesn't matter whether you think of yesterday or 2000 years ago. If they actually can change all epistemology would be impossible and no preposition could logically be justified.
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>>3935851well i was considering a race of people who are biological perfect and have a capacity of infinite creativity and iq. but then you could argue perfection isnt humanity and it would still lead to a dull world that is safe and perfect techinically but creatively boring and bankrupt. that is a good comparison tho. i hate boomers because of how fucking dumb they are and how they think themselves superior and dont realize they were given EVERYTHING from their fathers
▶ №3935865[Quote]>>3935891>>3935953
>>3935857i just dont consider anything beyond change or human reach. to me even the laws of physics can be changed subverted destroyed. that their are no limits i can also realize this is mostly hubris and human ego talking geg
▶ №3935872[Quote]>>3935880
>>3935851also i cant wait until the bands of nihlist psychopaths come to raze us cities down to the ground! im so proud of what our government and the boomers have done!
▶ №3935873[Quote]>>3936157
>>3935849So based off of what do you conclude materialism to be the "most logical" Framework when it destroys epistemic justification, a priori truths, forces you into nominalism, and makes it impossible to justify identity over time, and thus literally makes knowledge impossible and makes it impossible to justify claims?
▶ №3935880[Quote]>>3935886
>>3935872Boomers are too big of a scapegoat when you consider how it's multi-generational international banking funding mass media to hypnotize all demographics with algorithm-tailored propaganda and hedonism tbb.
▶ №3935885[Quote]>>3935888
In the end, it boils down to whether you yourself resist evil or not, though.
▶ №3935886[Quote]>>3935904
>>3935880i agree i just hate how smug they fucking are. smug people piss me off more then 1 million hitlers or stalins
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>>3935885trvth its the eternal battle. the devil can only be let in he cant force himself in.
▶ №3935904[Quote]>>3935909
>>3935886If pride caused this mess, it's best to not hold animosity against them. Forgive, prevent pride from entering you and repeating mistakes of the past.
And note, to forgive does not mean to not fight against the consequences of past mistakes, simply that you hold no grudge against them for it.
▶ №3935906[Quote]>>3935922
>>3935891well what can i say im a human being at the end of the day.
▶ №3935907[Quote]>>3936157
>>3931879 (OP)Way too fratured to achieve anything. Has to rely on it's association with Socialism to remain relevant
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>>3935904mmmm i should do that your right good sir
▶ №3935922[Quote]>>3935947
>>3935906it's not a sin to ponder. I'm just going to be the first person to tell you the consequences as a herald of God who's tried to study this as much as I can. Lucifer got told not to attempt it too. this is why pride is the most retarded of all sins
▶ №3935947[Quote]>>3936104
>>3935922i agree. i think that if i was evil it would eat at me as i wasnt born without empathy in my brain nor raised to be evil. i think it eats at all evil people and they have to cope with it through saying its "necessary" or something like that. it is funny that lucifier the angel knows he can never win and he knows this in perfect knowledge but he still attempts to. its also funny that people think he is winning or some shit when before christ the world was even darker then it is now. jesus poked out stars into that dark night sky for all to hope and dream
▶ №3935951[Quote]>>3935968>>3936104
>>3935891We ourselves share in human nature which has an unchanging purpose and intentionality behind it.
Things like laws of logic necessarily must be unchanging.
Rejection of the Divine Mind and the logoi of things as per St. Maximus the Confessor leads to the torment of chaos and confusion caused by a rejection of the Logos Christ as the foundation of coherence in the universe.
The luciferian "humanity blob hivemind" is born out of such a belief that seeks to find some "stability" through a rejection of the individual, but thus also a rejection of universal purpose for individuals and a rejection of the Image of God in man.
▶ №3935953[Quote]>>3935959
>>3935865Isn't this admitting that change and entropy are inevitable and thus universal? Because that's the case.
▶ №3935959[Quote]>>3935989>>3935992
>>3935953i mean i do believe change is the one constant of everything
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>>3935951the enlightenment was caused by the corrupted kings of the middle ages using god as a means to justify their unjust rule and warfare. without that i think that atheism wouldve been alot less popular today. also the catholic church being corrupt back then geg
▶ №3935989[Quote]>>3936017>>3936031
>>3935959And yet patterns still arise, the fact you're able to form a coherent sentence shows that change isn't fully randomized and meaningless, sure, to a non English speaker you'll be speaking niggerbabble, but everything only has meaning in regards to the context surrounding it.
▶ №3935992[Quote]>>3936011
>>3935959Well, if change is the only constant, how am I meant to entrust you with making a claim about it that would necessitate the possibility of it contradicting, either due to change of meaning or the topic at hand itself?
▶ №3936011[Quote]>>3936056
>>3935992change is the only constant of the universe. you dont have to trust me and i dont have some justsfication metaphysical or otherwise. i just know this is the case from history how people act and how even our existance means that we beat the odds that change can happen. that isnt the end of history or whatever else the establishment says. that one day decades centuries millenia things will be different. that is what i think
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>>3935989yes i believe any amount of meaning is the only thing that actually beats the seemingly meaingless universe
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>>3935989sure and i dont think anything is meaningless. im not saying that it is by saying change is the only constant. im just looking at the universe in a purely 'logical' way and no matter what happens change will be happening
▶ №3936056[Quote]>>3936069>>3936081
>>3936011If change truly is the only constant, shouldn't change itself be subject to that too and thus be able to contradict that claim?
Also, if the only constant is change, how's there such a thing as a constant?
▶ №3936067[Quote]>>3936075>>3936077>>3936084
Also, all philosophies have consequences. The belief in constant flux is what fuels progressivism, for instance. The way a man thinks influences how he acts. A man or society contrary to nihilism must ground itself in unchanging, absolute and universal truth and purpose.
▶ №3936069[Quote]>>3936101
>>3936056hey i wont deny you make good points. never claimed to have a logically consistent worldview. i just see how much the world has changed and how change has given humanity alot of what it is today. i can also see how it has crippled us and certain thing shouldve been kept around. All i want is a diverse world a world full of beauty and i think that the universe is beautiful because of it
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>>3936067me and you want the same. i want a stable and moral society as much as anyone but what ought to happen vs what happens are two different things.
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>>3936067but all philsophies also have merits in them too doesnt change the fact that the overall picture could be wrong tho
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>>3936056Life is just that, attempting to keep ones form whole while under constant threat of change (death), even for a fleeting moment, yes, change changes.
▶ №3936084[Quote]>>3936087>>3936112
>>3936067Particularism won German cvcka.
▶ №3936087[Quote]>>3936106
>>3936084even doe morality is objective
▶ №3936101[Quote]>>3936124
>>3936069I get what you mean, perhaps it has to do with wording or interpretation, but you must understand the nature of the past and of beauty.
Beauty is real and we enjoy it for that reason. It presents to us universal truths that, though they are shown externally in different ways, allow for a realistic and achievable view of them.
Christ in the cross, St. Lazar under the sword or St. Nicholas giving alms all present love in varying manners, but hold the same truth. When change in form begins to imply change in essence, you get chaos, a nominalist hell.
Transgenderism, a horrible problem of mind, soul and body, comes from where except nominalism?
Politics, too.
A change in leadership seldomly follows with a change in the core policy-making philosophy,yet IT hailed and feared under the guise of being legitimization of the authority to total change.
Though not always perfectly analogous, a loss of the sense between changing forms and unchanging truths has real consequences for man and his fellows.
▶ №3936104[Quote]>>3936113>>3936152
>>3935947I don't know if you're evil or not, but most evil people do not accept they are evil. to me you seem like a good person, but you're not going to like this:
Lucifer is winning you at this very moment. you presented his exact ideology. you're saying a carpenter who tells you to eat his flesh and blood and spawned a death cult that's razed all life on Earth is in fact your only hope. the carpenter who called himself Lightbringer, said he was the true Creator, said he would immediately resurrect and descend with a host of angels to conquer the world. he travelled with a gaggle of impressionable young teens and "walked on water", "cured a beggar", "threw out demons", all things any scammer could do with a sandbar and a few coins. not a single one of his "miracles" approached the proof summoning a single bolt of lightning would have done. tell me, do you think God Himself can't summon a single bolt of lightning on his incarnated campaign to prove himself to humanity?
>>3935951this is true, but "rabbi" (unaccredited and utterly rejected by Torah adherents) yeshua was no Christ in any way. the Pharisees did the
exact same thing we just did to OP, countering every aspect of his psychotic blasphemy, and it mind broke him to the point where he forced the Roman empire to crucify him as he preached how he was going to come back and kill them all. as his last words were "Father, why have you forsaken me?"
you have the most cursed foundation of hope possible, and the sheer complexity of your doctrines is a fractal of patches trying to hold water in a ship travelling down Leviathan's maw.
▶ №3936106[Quote]>>3936108
>>3936087In what universe?
▶ №3936108[Quote]>>3936133
>>3936106this one lil nigga
▶ №3936112[Quote]>>3936133
>>3936084Can you prove another person saying that exact same thing is conveying the truth even though your two statements under your view are wholly dissimilar and cannot be proven to have the same referent?
▶ №3936113[Quote]>>3936154
>>3936104christian doctrine is literally the foundation of what we consider good and sober morality
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>>3936101well idk but i think a middle ground can be attained. i think we can both change and can keep truths we know to be true
▶ №3936133[Quote]>>3936135>>3936156
>>3936108Implies not the others, get raped geg
>>3936112Woah, calm down there mister, sure you can't prove they're referring to the same thing, in fact, no amount of words will allow someone to fully understand another's perspective, this doesn't mean reality is completely disconnected among individuals, things can be perceived and reacted differently but you know for a fact there is something to be perceived and to be reacted, you might not know whether it's a 6 or a 9 but you know it's something.
>Cliche picrelIk
▶ №3936135[Quote]>>3936138
>>3936133how can you prove multiversal theory geg
▶ №3936138[Quote]>>3936142
>>3936135Kys nigger it was just a gotcha stop thinking I'm actually gonna defend that shit.
▶ №3936142[Quote]>>3936150
>>3936138admitting it was a gotcha question is just giving me the debate geg.
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>>3936141They actually do this
▶ №3936150[Quote]>>3936155
>>3936142What fucking debate nigger?
>In what universe?<this one lil' niggaHow very debateful of you
▶ №3936152[Quote]>>3936158>>3936185
>>3936104Christianity is the exact opposite of a death cult, and to hold the judgement of the pharisees, done out of hatred and pride, to be anything other than proof of Christ's truth, is illogical.
Christ never threatened to kill all, this makes no sense. He Himself has said that He does not wish for the death of the sinner, but rather that he turn from his way and live, and this is that which is frequently cited by the Holy Fathers in their prayers.
As for miracles, you have no reason to doubt, you simply do.
Where exactly, and who exactly, is your 'god, then?
▶ №3936154[Quote]>>3936163>>3936181
>>3936113it's the foundation of what *you* consider good and sober morality. in case you haven't noticed, the entire world outside of your church utterly hates you, labels you genociders, and can justify it. Manifest Destiny, the kidnapping of indigenous children to "uplift" and indoctrinate them in prisons where they were abused, the bloody wars between everyone around you and yourselves. you and the toxic Hegelian Dialect of liberal materialism that spawned in opposition to christian tyranny have ruined humanity and ruined all life in this world to the point where genuine demons are tunneling into people's brains from their reactions to the generational trauma.
▶ №3936155[Quote]>>3936185
>>3936150well i already know that me and you wont be able to bridge the gap. ill say that morality is objective because everyone knows and feels what is right and that culture that strays from the path is merely hiding from the truth that they know what they do is evil and have to cope about it
▶ №3936156[Quote]>>3936185
>>3936133That's not what I was talking about, though. I was talking about objections to nominalism and the impossibility of making prepositions in nominalism and evaluating them.
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>>3936141Geg
>>3935907Most socialists are communist althoughbeit
>>3935873Materialism forces you to not com up with abstract though but focus on what's happening/what happened
▶ №3936158[Quote]>>3936166>>3936189
>>3936152where's your
(((fucking puke dipshit desert nigger absolutely fucking forsaken hoax of broken minds yahweh)))? why can't he do a single thing to me for the blasphemy I just laid down upon him?
▶ №3936160[Quote]>>3936164
>>3931879 (OP)western communists dont care about achieving anything but only care about making themselves feel good and proving theyre better than the other communists
▶ №3936163[Quote]>>3936184
>>3936154again you fail. you use examples of people who abused human made systems and abused the verses to justify evil actions. plus the church also made stands against slavery. and your assuming what i am. the bible in full context doesnt justify evil geg
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>>3936160True we need to fix this we need a true vanguard party organization an discipline just Lenin said
▶ №3936166[Quote]>>3936184
>>3936158because he has given you free will and he loves you. he weeps for you every day
▶ №3936181[Quote]>>3936183>>3936209
>>3936154These things do not apply to Orthodoxy.
Plus, if one ought to reject a worldview merely due to conflicts (after arbitrarily determining which degree of chaos arising makes it false), then you force yourself into the impossible-to-defend, from your view logically entailed view that all views ought to be rejected, as for every one, there is at least one who rejects it or for whom it is a motivator to cause steife.
Of Course, even that view causes strife, so you become a philosophical nomad with no actual worldview as a result.
▶ №3936184[Quote]>>3936200>>3936203>>3936211
>>3936163the churches that have brainwashed you are the Darkness, the entire world outside of them calls their reign the Dark Ages. now that you've been challenged you don't even care about truth, you care about "succeeding" and "winning". Christians have lived by the sword for 2000 years and now the Sword of Damocles surrounds them on all sides.
>>3936166nah dude you have yahweh in your bible throwing meteors at people, constantly intervening, constantly smiting his enemies with direct divine intervention for much more minor offenses than complete rejection and direct invocation with blasphemy. don't try and guilt trip me about "uWu he's crying for you" because you know what I'm saying is correct and that's your programmed response.
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>>3936152Most religions are death cults because they champion shit like abstinence, and you know, we need people to have sex and eat food in order to live as a species
>INB4 some cope about how it's only priestsPriests are meant to be the moral idol of a society, not good regardless.
>>3936155Fucking retard geg, this line of thinking is what allows murderers and whatnot get points of sympathy, no, that rapist did not feel bad afterwards, he was just reminiscing how much longer he could have stayed, you do not think like him so stop putting yourself in his shoes you vain like.
>>3936156And I made it clear it enough that I'm not a nominalist? In the example I gave, of the six and the nine, both parties can say for certain that there is something there, I'm not a retard, I don't think names are the reason anything is, it's just what is perceived is different for each, I'm a particularist not a nominalist.
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>>3936158No amount of irrational anger will prove He does not exist.
Whenever something outside the will of those sharing your views happens to them so that they wake up from this delusion of being untouchable despite their wrongdoings, they simply come Up with another non-argument then asserting that as a "proof" as to why He allegedly does not exist.
Who is your god? Why do you not want to answer?
▶ №3936191[Quote]>>3936206
>>3936185you think that what you believe is beyond being used by others as a means of control and manipulation? no the reality is people are flawed. our biology makes us like this. if you want systems that are immune to corruption your asking the wrong species
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>>3936184no i think my issue with people like you is that you think that X group is the problem of the world. sure their are some groups who do cause strife but evil wont vanish or diminish because you get rid of christians of jews or any X belief all you do is oppress them and become the thing you whine about. if you dont want to pick a side because their followers have done fucked up shit then thats fine but dont act like your side hasnt or wont. its childish plain and simple and im sick of it
▶ №3936203[Quote]>>3936219
>>3936184im not brainwashed. i dont think the catholic church is perfect or even a net good. but i realize the theory and doctrine of christianity wasneeded in the past to grow society socially and culturally from the roman world of shit
▶ №3936206[Quote]>>3936220
>>3936191Yes? Because my beliefs are just that, MY beliefs, I do not apply them to anyone else, nor do I expect others to apply their beliefs onto me (ev&doe arrogant morons like you still do), and yes, the way I treat others is entirely defined by my own code, which I do not believe to be universal in any way… So yeah, I'm not getting manipulated like you would be, and our "flawed" existence is only on your book, arrogant faggot.
▶ №3936209[Quote]>>3936221
>>3936181blah blah blah sophistry blah blah blah logic blah blah blah words blah blah blah mind rotting distractions and confusions to distract from…
no lightning bolt.
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>>3936184Then where is the light?
You want to blaspheme and condemn but can't say where the standards you judge by are from?
▶ №3936220[Quote]>>3936234
>>3936206again you fail i dont expect anyone to follow what i believe. i think the world needs to NOT follow what i believe so its diverse you fucking retard. i think in a world of people who followed exactly the same thing even if i like it or think its right would be aboring dull inhumane one. so you dont htink that our nature pushes us towards impulsive actions like rape murder or thief? that our nature makes some men into monsters the destroys anything beautiful in this world? if you believe that your naive
▶ №3936221[Quote]>>3936228
>>3936209"Logic is sophistry"
You've been emotionally manipulated by actual cultists of new atheism into believing these are real arguments.
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>>3936219i like the romans. they were the most glorious empire in human history but to larp and act like they didnt genocide thousands and justify it fully without any nuance is laughable. either its all bad or one way is better then another
▶ №3936228[Quote]>>3936229>>3936246
>>3936221have you read any of my posts itt to come to the conclusion I'm an atheist? you're a blind mind broken beast retard just like OP, just more sophisticated and better prepared. the other guy actually has a soul and is just confused.
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>>3936228paganism is part of new atheism unc
▶ №3936230[Quote]>>3936253
Move out.
▶ №3936234[Quote]>>3936238>>3936242>>3936245
>>3936220So what the fuck are you, nigger? A cynical universalist? I'd say the same thing, diversification is always the end result of a successful species, and yes, nature does affect the behaviours of men, that's obvious,particularism reaches the same conclusion.
▶ №3936238[Quote]>>3936264
>>3936234the closest label for me is deist. my entire point is that we needed christianity in the past to get us to where are today. sure we can try something else but back then we more then likely needed it
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>>393621999% of pagan societies have contributed nothing to the world, living in mudhuts, raping and pillaging and carving masks for hundreds of year.
Rome and greece are the exception, but the bulk of perfecting, refining and inventing technology and culture in europe was post-St. Constantine, until the industrial revolution changed the manner in which these took place.
▶ №3936242[Quote]>>3936264
>>3936234idk if diversity is success maybe it is maybe it isnt all iknow is that i dont want a boring grey sludge world of the same idiots
▶ №3936245[Quote]>>3936264
>>3936234then if you know nature affects the behavior of men then you should also realize that social education cannot ever work until our biology is fixed
▶ №3936246[Quote]>>3936249>>3936263
>>3936228Your assertions are indistinguishable from new atheist rhetoric, how does that imply anything about your beliefs in and of itself? anyone can be influenced by any type of rhetoric
▶ №3936249[Quote]>>3936260
>>3936246also nupagans are atheists larping as something cooler then what they are
▶ №3936251[Quote]>>3936255
>>>3936184 (You)
>no i think my issue with people like you is that you think that X group is the problem of the world. sure their are some groups who do cause strife but evil wont vanish or diminish because you get rid of christians of jews or any X belief all you do is oppress them and become the thing you whine about. if you dont want to pick a side because their followers have done fucked up shit then thats fine but dont act like your side hasnt or wont. its childish plain and simple and im sick of it
I have a side: El Shaddai, the nameless god of Abraham. Samantabadhra, the Primordial Buddha. Bythos, the Organizing Principle. Brahma, the Primordial.
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>>3936251good for you but dont think that getting rid of your enemies will solve the worlds issues. realize corruption is embedded in the hearts of all men and we must fight it off
▶ №3936260[Quote]>>3936265
>>3936249True. Usually, paganism is purely political, so in other words, 99% of it is:"Stop believing evil jewish fairytales, worship your ancestors' literal fairytales instead, because your ancestors are just better for some reason".
Society collapses in a year when your mythos and morale is a literal myth.
▶ №3936264[Quote]>>3936287>>3936291
>>3936238>Christianity got us to where we areDoubt it.
>>3936242It is, since nothing is universal, the natural conclusion of a species that prospers in many places is to further adapt to that specific environment until full speciation happens, and as the goal of all life is to multiply, this is winning.
>>3936245What…? Yes… Our biology defines how we react, and since we are a social species, most of us really care what others are thinking, thusly, social education tells us exactly what others expect from us and what we should expect from others, of someone actually listens to that education, that is predetermined by biology, but I can assure you, most people aren't gonna be shitting in the street since that's a taboo.
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>>3936260paganism was always about material strength and less about virtues. thats why monotheism is better imo because it provides a moral to follow
▶ №3936268[Quote]>>3936290
>>3936263What are any of these meant to mean and will you ever make an argument as opposed to an assertion?
▶ №3936275[Quote]>>3936279
>>3936266Communists won kys wage cuck
▶ №3936278[Quote]>>3936280
>>3936271These are the people calling me cattle btw
▶ №3936279[Quote]>>3936289
>>3936275>wagecuckyou'll only be a slave under communism!
▶ №3936280[Quote]>>3936289
>>3936278snopes? I call you a subhuman!
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>>3936263Christianity is not responsible for the decay of today.
▶ №3936287[Quote]>>3936304
>>3936264well your better then most atheists because you dont talk in absolutes. im saying that when people say we should educate the population that education wont stick for longer then a few generation as our biology always makes people lazy evil or impulsive over time and then they disregard said education to indulge in destructive hedonism. the only way is to fix our biology through means of genetic engineering or natural evolution both seem far fetched but its the only way isee it
▶ №3936288[Quote]>>3936306
>>3936266MAGA flood drowns out high IQ metaphysics, total dimwit victory
▶ №3936289[Quote]>>3936294
>>3936279No it's called not being a lazy fuck
>>3936280Whatever Mr.hitkler Stalin mods you
▶ №3936291[Quote]>>3936313
>>3936264you think that without christianity and in a world of roman morals that we would be better of? out of all the choices we couldve picked that was the best imo to force morality en masse socially
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>>3936290Listen, I wish to know what your actual problems are.
▶ №3936300[Quote]>>3936303>>3936306
>>3936294*mogs you lost
>>3936286>>3936276>>3936297You lost get fucked TRUMPCORD
▶ №3936303[Quote]>>3936311
>>3936300trump literally won 2 terms geg
▶ №3936306[Quote]>>3936311>>3936320
>>3936288evendoe you guys are debating communism, which is low IQ
>>3936300did not read
▶ №3936307[Quote]>>3936320
>>3936304you can also overlap revolt
> new tyranny > revolt → new tyranny and it would be accurate also. but ye i agree with this
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What is your thought on ACP?
▶ №3936315[Quote]>>3936319
>>3936311this site is trump owned btw
▶ №3936320[Quote]>>3936325>>3936328
>>3936306Nuh uh
>>3936307Change is the constant, remember?
>>3936313I posted it again award
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>>3936318You are a niggerYOU ARE APART OF THE TRUMPCORD CABAL
▶ №3936324[Quote]>>3936335
>>3936313it isnt about comfort. infact i support a society more close to suffering then not as we are designed to suffer. im talking of moral decadence and decay. the romans collapsed because of this and paganism supported it. paganism is more about getting strength from the gods or luck from them. not really about being 'moral' per se
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>>3936320it is and the cycle is both change and both isnt. i can see how it fills both
▶ №3936334[Quote]>>3936339
>>3936329trump has so much more aura then stalin…
▶ №3936335[Quote]>>3936337>>3936342
>>3936324There was a lot of emphasis on duty and ancestry, but yeah, I'm not denying Romans started decaying as soon as the hedonism's of life showed themselves, strong men create good times.
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>>3936335well that and slavery. geg
▶ №3936341[Quote]>>3936346>>3936348
>>3936325It's midwitted doebeit
▶ №3936342[Quote]>>3936363
>>3936335it was duty to keep up your power and martial strength. it was your ancestry to keep strong and in power over the slaves and peasant beneath you. that sort of shit is appealing to our lizard brains but not to our god side
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>>3936341he baiting doebeit
▶ №3936363[Quote]>>3936371>>3936372
>>3936342This still proves my point, the "lizard" brain wants to minimize change as much as it can, preserve it's being even in the inevitability of death, I find it quite intriguing, everybody's conservative about something you know? Anyways I gotta go, cya.
>>3936351MAGA lost and Drumpf is a pedo geg
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>>3936363ye it wants ot minimize change to the point of living like a tribe with their family. that isnt good long term. we need to build proper societies that last for everyone in our community. not care merely for our own power
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>>3936379the maga train never stops… just like a certain train carrying jews! trump2028!
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>>3936253You will be forced
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finally. the thread is saved, from it's malformed and pitiably pathetic and monstrous OP
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>>3936394ONG TRUMP WON! NAZIS WON! CONSERVATISM WON! NO BABIES WILL BE ABORTED! WE WILL TAKE AWAY FEMALE RIGHTS!
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▶ №3936411[Quote]>>3936421
>>3936406dont worry under the new trump reich we will take away all communist books and burn them
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>>3936406see how you haven't posted a single commiegem yet? telling.
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>>3936411Will never happen award
>>3936412Picrel
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>>3936415i love when i wake up drink some coffee (with raw milk) and laugh at the communcucks and libfarts and democraps seethe about the utopia the great white hope trump has created
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>>3936421marge? why would a communist be hanging a fellow communist?
▶ №3936430[Quote]>>3936435
>>3936423they then proceed to post about how there's a trans genocide going on. KEK! I wish. In due time however.
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>>3936421no more brother wars…
▶ №3936435[Quote]>>3936441
>>3936430they dont know about the plan! kek! democraps have no idea its just getting started!
▶ №3936441[Quote]>>3936447
>>3936435DeomRATS really think they have a chance in the midterms… not like this libkucks!
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>>3936441cant spell demon without demo
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>>3936447cant spell stupid without Obama!
▶ №3936456[Quote]>>3936462
>>3936452yup! KEK im so happy this site is owned by us Qariots
▶ №3936462[Quote]>>3936467
>>3936456We even keep a few libturds for entertainment! truly a
MAGA safe haven
▶ №3936467[Quote]>>3936477
>>3936462hahaha! they are like our jesters! just like that momo faggot!!!!!
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nigger thread go down
▶ №3936482[Quote]>>3936500
>>3936477TFW in 2483 when i evolve to turn into pure Qariot red maga aryan energy to talk with trump while on his throne in heaven cause i trusted the plan
▶ №3936505[Quote]>>3936512
Q here. Just wanted to let you know that everything the German flag says is true.
▶ №3936513[Quote]>>3936516
>>3936504bruh your actually making me drooling for mcdonalds geg. actuallyi want little ceasars geg
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>>3936513Whatever you want. In
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TRVMP TRVMP TRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMPTRVMP TRVMP
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MAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVERMAGA TQQK QVER
