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[–]FelinomancyBest of 2019 Winner [score hidden]  (2 children)

What people doesn't know is that he's also the inventor of the roti that bears his name [citation needed]

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (1 child)

Unfortunately he never trademark his name. So no royalties. Father John took an oath of poverty.

[–]throwawayrandomguy93 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thus he was separated from the would-be profits by a metaphorical John Wall

I'll see myself out now...

[–]Flimsy_Club3792 [score hidden]  (12 children)

How you guys managed to sleep at the church bruh? 😭

[–]MsianOrthodox [score hidden]  (4 children)

Comfortable pews, droning voice, long sermons…quite common in most churches.

[–]Prestigious-Recipe-6 [score hidden]  (1 child)

Albeit not a Christian, we Muslim also can relate to this experience (just finished our Friday prayer and ... afternoon nap during the sermon).

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

You'll be surprise how much similarities Muslims and Catholics have.

[–]mathematicalmeth [score hidden]  (1 child)

and aircon too!

[–]icemountain87maggi goreng double + teh ais [score hidden]  (0 children)

No aircon when I was growing up. But I find the humid mugginess makes it even easier to sleep.

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (5 children)

It's a Catholic church, not those concert style Evangelical churches... The dullness will drift your spirit into an endless slumber.

[–]Flimsy_Club3792 [score hidden]  (1 child)

Yeah I know, I've attended Catholic mass before too but how 😭

I tried sleeping and it didn't work 😭

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I got my training since I was a kid. I can look like I'm paying attention but my spirit wanders around while my mind goes to weird spaces.

[–]Zreebelle [score hidden]  (2 children)

Only until after the homily. Then it’s a cycle of sit, stand, kneel

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Then it's "Peace be with you" to everybody. Then it's final prayer/blessing, then we ciao for morning coffee!

[–]Toaster_Goblin7740 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sit stand kneel sit stand kneel, good job, here's a biscuit

[–]Gr3yShadow [score hidden]  (0 children)

yeah, I've never fall asleep and seen anyone fall asleep during the service also

the repeated standing, kneeling, sitting won't give you any chances to fall asleep unless you're dead tired

sometimes the sermon might be a bit boring, but our priest always kept it short so you won't have the chance to doze off

[–]Redy_Dit [score hidden]  (0 children)

PEAK ART!!!!!

(I am Christian Catholic btw)

[–]icemountain87maggi goreng double + teh ais [score hidden]  (1 child)

Some priests can be really engaging with their homily. Especially some of the younger ones who use Powerpoint slides and whatnot to supplement their delivery. Not so easy to fall asleep liao.

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is the first I heard. Homily got powerpoint presentation wahliao. They must be losing members to the church next door.

[–]Leviathem [score hidden]  (1 child)

Fun fact: I've been living in Kuala Lumpur for almost a year, and I don't think I've ever come across a Catholic church. What I mostly see around the city are Muslim mosques, as well as Buddhist and Hindu temples. The few churches I have seen have been Protestant or Evangelical, along with one Orthodox church, which I visited to celebrate Orthodox Easter, Christmas, and the Feast of the Dormition of the Theotokos (August 15).

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm quite curious to visit an Orthodox Church. It's probably full of bling inside.

[–]dankvinnieSabah dingo brodda [score hidden]  (0 children)

i see meow meow, i press upvote

[–]DegenNabalu [score hidden]  (0 children)

Random:

Sabah parish choir/ hymn >>>> Sarawak >> Peninsula

Lololol

[–]shuikanSarawak [score hidden]  (0 children)

He looks a lot like a priest I know in my local diocese.

[–]Middle-Package9687 [score hidden]  (3 children)

Are Malaysian Christian mostly Catholic or Protestant?

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (2 children)

According to wiki: Within the Christian community, roughly 50% are Catholic and 40% are Protestant, with the remaining 10% belonging to other denominations.

But if you ask individual Christians, their beliefs are on a spectrum really. Some are those super fundamentalist, some are those "If you don't believe in Jesus you go to hell", some are unknowingly part of a cult, some are super Orthodox(Love the ritualistic practices), some are secular Christians(Do all the fun things like celebrate Christmas but hardly go to church on a weekly basis), some stay in their religion to retain their heritage(A lot of Eurasians remain Catholic. Factors for why they don't jump ship include heritage and also, their family culture has a lot of Catholicism baked into it, similar to many Muslims here)

These are my thoughts really, based on just asking people out of pure curiosity.

[–]Leviathem [score hidden]  (1 child)

Interesting. The only Malaysian Christian colleague I have is an Evangelical Christian, and he's quite hardline in his religious views. I haven't really had any contact with other Malaysian Christians (the Greek community in Kuala Lumpur doesn't count, since we're expatriates, not Malaysian citizens).Most of my colleagues are Muslims and some of them are Buddhists or Hindu.

In your opinion, which of the Christian groups or trends you described is the largest or most influential among Malaysian Christians?

[–]rachelwan-art[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Honestly, at this point I do see those evangelical megachurches popping up. It's very enticing for young people. But these megachurches come and go. They have a very capitalist nature, it's almost like an MLM, and they probably enforce this 10% alms thing that is problematic in my opinion. You have to be patient enough to wait for a scandal to erupt, then you will have a segment of people leaving, but you have those that stay loyal and say that they forgive so and so pastor. These things comes in cycles and happens in every institution.

I'm raised Catholic and I'm very privy to the ahem.. list of sins of the Catholic church in the past. But I do acknowledge that both Catholic and Anglicans have done some good in Malaysia, like set up schools and hospitals.