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[–]ZeroWolfZX [score hidden]  (2 children)

It's the weakness of democracy. I'm still all for it compared to other systems of government, but one of its biggest weaknesses is that the government is basically a reflection of the electorate. So if the people are dumb and easily swayed, then the leaders that population elects will reflect that. That's why, for democracy to work well, you actually need a highly educated, critical-thinking majority where the standards for leaders are higher.

[–]Zkang123Singapore [score hidden]  (0 children)

Winston Churchill did say smth about how democracy is both the best and worst form of government

[–]PekStarterMalaysiaa [score hidden]  (6 children)

Najib was PM during a period of global economic prosperity. There was more money in people’s pockets, govt had more money to spend on populist policies and unfortunately people today (including Redditors on [r/malaysia](r/malaysia)) don’t understand inflation- so many times people say “this thing was cheaper during Najibs time). This isn’t even just Malays but I know plenty of non Malays with parents who a diehard BN supporters and think Najib did a great job.

People want to go back to that time when zapfan was below RM10 and petrol was cheap.

Unfortunately many don’t realise that the world has changed, there has been covid and the war in the Middle East has introduce huge economic headwinds that MANY countries are struggling with.

So unfortunately BNPN supporters are gonna have their “copium” moment like how PH supporters experienced when Anwar began to not live up to expectation.

BNPN supporters think their issues will all be solved now. But it’s gonna be challenging because the new govt won’t have the funds to introduce blanket RON95 subsidies like Najib time nor many of the populist policies we could afford before. Times have changed.

So expect big wake up call for their supporters over the next 2 years. You can scream and shout about identity politics but trust me, when your rice bowl starts getting impacted. There’s only so much you can blame DAP.

If the roles were reversed and BN was the incumbent in N9, I truly believe they would have lost their marginal seats.

I may be wrong but BN does have a track record of running a country. Hopefully they put competent people in charge of our economy. Lots of external pressures right now.

[–]Cereal_Potato[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

This!

I'm definitely not against BN running the country but they should really appoint a new p.i.c, whatever Zahid or Najib was, it's definitely not it, and please for the love of god don't bring that p.o.s back from fake-ass prison of his, fake as it may be, let him rot there

[–]forcebubbledownvoting posts doesn't do what you think it does ... [score hidden]  (1 child)

The subsidy thing is a 'low hanging' fruit so to speak that can be activated if they want to just dig their claws deeper and won't be surprised if it's the first thing they do when in power. Such a quick easy way to sway opinion which makes it a more treacherous thing than it appears.

Just like the years before until this rationalisation programme it was a can that gets kicked down the street for the next guy to fix, which is why PMX is under constant criticism despite being the right thing to do; the reasonable person would understand this be a long term necessity but the average person has unfortunately built their lives around short term considerations. It's understandable but regrettable at the same time which makes it an even more urgent thing to fix now than later when it gets even more expensive.

RM50b a year according to Anwar, imagine what could be done with RM50b in terms of things like public transport, food security, education and renewable energy all of which have significantly higher multipliers. It's almost like not sending the children to university because the money necessary for it has been spent on Netflix subscriptions.

[–]PekStarterMalaysiaa [score hidden]  (0 children)

Dude. Theres no more money for subsidies. Malaysia needs to control its deficit. With the strait of Hormuz closed, there’s not even enough physical oil to give everyone a blanket subsidy.

It’s not going to be like before…

[–]muskymelon36 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The RCI on TH and 1MDB scandal shows that whatever economic success was perceived due to Najib, it may have all been faked and we were being set up for an Argentina-Greece level crash.

[–]Stockzman [score hidden]  (0 children)

They will still blame DAP😂

[–]Zkang123Singapore [score hidden]  (0 children)

It's also like how the democrats lost in America. People kept saying Biden didn't deliver enough and he's too old and he eventually caved to his supporters' wishes to have Harris be his successor and... people hated on Harris on various other things, which included a deep-seated misogyny and racism that America hasn't fully reckoned with

So now we have Trump again

> So expect big wake up call for their supporters over the next 2 years. You can scream and shout about identity politics but trust me, when your rice bowl starts getting impacted.

Well, the deeply conservative states like Kelantan still voted PAS and they also live comfortably instead in KL

[–]satori_paper [score hidden]  (2 children)

for democracy to work, it assumes some level of civic competence at the voter level, which we now clearly lack of.

[–]Original_Nobody6400 [score hidden]  (1 child)

This is not a problem exclusive to us. Most developing countries have the same problem. People are lowly educated, do not have good ideologies, and poor sense of morality. Europeans and Americans have centuries of people development to get where they are.

[–]Polyanalyne [score hidden]  (0 children)

One could argue that even the Europeans and Americans a similar problem... at least imho the Americans are leading in this aspect

[–]AccomplishedDust2963 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm neutral voter/atas pagar person, but I found it hilarious when people assume other side is an idiot/ignorant just because they are not on the same page. The sooner you realize all of them use the same tactics, the sooner you don't give a shit anymore.

[–]MAATAJ91 [score hidden]  (0 children)

"Seriously when BN makes statements like: if we win we will free Najib"

Can you give a reference when did BN said this?

[–]AlternativeMechanic7 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Who ever on top, its meant to be the same. Welcome to democracy and politics

[–]Fit_Swimming5629 [score hidden]  (1 child)

Party like its 2012

[–]hadizakeeNegeri Sembilan [score hidden]  (0 children)

You know that it doesn't matter as long as we got each other ~

[–]malaysianlah [score hidden]  (0 children)

There is nothing we can do individually beyond voting. We focus on our own locus on control, and make hedges.

Malaysia is a wonderful, wonderful place to live, and even more wonderful when you make sure you invest in foreign assets (SGD and USD are both good bets). The weather is warm, the houses are reasonly affordable (Yes. RM1mil landed homes is expensive, but for somewhere that is 5 to 10 minute from a nice mall and 30 minutes from the city? Affordable af), and the food is fire.

Remember, no matter who is in the government, the only one that can make yourself rich is you. You need to buy the lottery ticket. You need to invest and make the most of your own resources. The govt only creates the infrastructure.

But, in today's era of globally mobile capital, think bigger. Think global. Invest globally, because when the world moves, you make money!

Now what about malaysia? Well, it is what it is la. WE hope for the best, but even under BN, it is still a great place to live.

If the country develops, great. I'm happy.

But if the country remains stagnant, that is fine too, because I have foreign assets which will appreciate in value against the weakkning RM, so I get to make the most of the low cost of living. I get to call grab all the time and make sure they continue to put fries in the bag, buy cheap food, get cleaners for RM180 a day, get a massage for RM60 for 1 hour. Life is amazing when you have hedged SGD and USD assets.

Tune out the noise. Focus on things you can control.

Then when you have resources, help your family (if you like them). Help your friends. Lift them up, so that they stay here with you.

The people out there, the government, the politicians? WHoever they are, they don't care about us. Remember that. Only we can care about ourselves

[–]ImPriest1 [score hidden]  (0 children)

They perceived money being stolen from them is a much lesser evil, they are not seen to be denying this.

[–]0110Vincent0110Sabah [score hidden]  (0 children)

🎶This is Malaysia🎶

[–]ZeneticX [score hidden]  (0 children)

If it makes anyone feel better, we won't be alone in regards to countries that fell to right wing politics in recent years. It's just how democracy works.

[–]Button-Decent [score hidden]  (0 children)

You know what do these racist pos in BN and Pas call us Malay PH supporters just because we don't want to be racist ? I don't care I have my principle, but after so many nons want BN back I wonder why should I care anymore

[–]iotaquantum [score hidden]  (8 children)

As a gov employee who's worked with both governments, BN was better for quality of life because you weren't accountable for any expenses and not constantly audited, so processes were pretty simple. Post-2018 there were Integrity and Governance Offices (IGO) planted into every GLC/ GLIC with at least 2 SPRM personnel overseeing them, strict procurement processes with limited pay and claim, year end vendor appointment justification and audit report submission to Jabatan Audit Negara. Oh oh, also yearly asset declaration form you have to fill out. BN was easier for businesses as well, I mean, "semua boleh bawak bincang", what more can you say?

Edit: terlupa tambah /s guys, chill lol.

[–]Anxious-Debate5033 [score hidden]  (0 children)

because you weren't accountable for any expenses and not constantly audited,

This in itself is absolutely terrible.

[–]Cereal_Potato[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Idk if you're trying to make BN better because what you just describe somehow has the opposite effect.

Easier processes just because it's not strict doesn't sound like a good governing system. if anything, it opens the door for more shady bs

I'm all for not over complicate stuff but I think there should be some limits on what should be regulated

[–]ImPriest1 [score hidden]  (4 children)

Having these processes is a good thing no?

[–]esseinvictusPerak [score hidden]  (0 children)

Shows you the mentality of those working in government, where everything is corrupt from simple procurement of everyday office items to 1MDB, is it surprise that when the top is lax, this attitude flows down to the bottom everything is as laissez-faire as it can be.

[–]iotaquantum [score hidden]  (1 child)

Yeap, it's a good thing, corruption on the lower levels were completely wiped out post 2018, every single cent is accounted for. But looking at election results voters don't want progress, and some people in government sectors who actually see these improvements have given up trying to explain this to people outside the system. Also there's the dinosaurs who want things to go back to the way they were, because they get to minum pagi, minum petang and clock out at 4 pm (this doesn't really happen anymore post 2018 btw, there's a shit tonne of work now). Oh they also want the skim pencen back because that's not a thing anymore.

And then there's the business owners who's dreading e-invoice because it's not that easy to lari cukai anymore, lorry drivers who can't bribe their way out of overloaded lorry shipments, sispaa as an easy way to lodge complaints against gov agencies, among other improvements.

Like what's the point explaining this when race and religion still takes the centre stage at every election?

[–]I_am_from_2029 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Of course it's a good thing for us, but the people that are involve don't like.

[–]I_am_from_2029 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You are so right.