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No. 2909787

As the title says.
Post experiences, why you can't stand them and such.
This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.
This thread is about mental illness you can't stand in others.
Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you OR to defend a specific disorder because "[thing] people are actually etc etc" because seeing patterns is not illegal. If your disorder gets posted here, cope and hide the thread, don't be a little bitch.
People are here to vent and some also have traumatic experiences, do not nitpick about "But the DSM V says-", don't care, no one here has the power to change the whole diagnostic world so a nobody on the internet isn't gonna change anything, plus most of the times official papers are unreliable so don't take that as the mental illness bible and don't use that against nonnies.
People you don't like aren't necessarily mentally ill, so don't get too much bloggy and keep the convo related to actual mental illness/traits.

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No. 2909813>>2910021>>2910035>>2910159>>2992322

Honestly I can't stand people who claim their trauma and PTSD made them "strong". It's the most annoying cope especially when they shove it down everyone else's throats or think everyone else should be traumatised too to get like them. We're not retarded cavemen. No sir it makes you extremely weak actually, that's why you get violently triggered whenever someone says hi to you instead of just brushing it off like a truly strong normie.

No. 2910021>>2910023>>2910042>>2910053>>2910077>>2910159>>2910166

>>2909813
Insanely wild to get mad at people for being traumatised and the words they use to come to terms with what they experienced, you sound awful.

No. 2910023>>2910039

>>2910021
yeah, this is definitely a pick me zoomie

No. 2910035>>2910041

>>2909813
Maybe they mean that they had to develop extra strength to function normally on a day-to-day basis, because trauma makes that harder for them than it is for other people.

No. 2910039>>2910057

>>2910023
I am also a zoomer nona, don’t age shame me, I’m not an immature retard just because I’m young.

No. 2910041

>>2910035
Nta but wanting other people to develop something similar/go through something traumatic is retarded though kek
Kek

No. 2910042>>2910046

>>2910021
you just read the first sentence and called it a day huh

No. 2910046

>>2910042
Unfortunately, I read the entire thing.

No. 2910053>>2910159

>>2910021
The ones who bully other traumatised people just because of their trauma?
>Hurr durr MY trauma made me strong and yours made you weak!
That sort of retardation, often found in boomers and veterans who constantly have to bring up the fact they fought in scary big strong wars. Not people who call themselves survivors to cope.

No. 2910054

Starting out this thread excellently.

No. 2910057>>2910063

>>2910039
sorry, love you nonna.

No. 2910058>>2910063

"Asexual" autists. Harmless I suppose compared to most but really obnoxious. And they always happen to have odd fetishes for the strangest things like I don't fucking know, car doors.

No. 2910063>>2910069

>>2910057
You too.
>>2910058
How is that even asexual? If you sexualise things?

No. 2910064>>2910072

Can't stand the disorder that makes the second x chromosome all retarded and causes the genitals to prolapse.
We let it get so bad that like 50 percent of the population has this retardation and we have to pretend its not a fucking disease of the mind and body.

No. 2910069

>>2910063
That's why I put it in quotation marks, they call themselves that and constantly parade how "asexy" they are and how yoonique they are for not feeling seggsuelle attraction meanwhile having the weirdest fetishes known to man

No. 2910072>>2910109

>>2910064
Crazy, I hear there’s a Y chromosome that makes everyone who has it an autistic, ugly porn addict.

No. 2910077>>2910159

>>2910021
Where did I say I was mad at them for being traumatised?
I said I hate the ones who act like everyone else should go through the same nasty shit, and who constantly parade their trauma around, did you read that part at all? Telling yourself you are strong for surviving something is how many people heal, obviously. Telling others they should also go through pain and suffering to be strong like you gets harmful. You see it in a lot of the older generation wanting the younger generations to go through their harsh punishments and abuses because we're apparently too "soft".

No. 2910080>>2910082>>2910091>>2910094

Reassurance-begging. It's a feature of BPD, OCD, and anxiety to say the least. I'm not talking about "checking in" with someone, I'm talking about "are you mad at me? Are you sure? Are you sure you're not mad? Are you sure you don't hate my guts? You can tell me if you do. Are you sure? Are you sure?"
it almost inevitably leads to you ACTUALLY being mad at them, which "validates" their insane rumination spiral and only encourages it to spin faster

No. 2910082

>>2910080
No matter what you do they'll eventually spin and project it to you hating them anyway too. And then you get sick of them and they just use it to fuel their victim complex again with wahhh everyone hates me everyone leaves me! Yeah we see why

No. 2910091>>2910099

>>2910080
I do this. I wonder if I’m BPD, I always think people hate me and I want them to tell me they don’t.

No. 2910092>>2910098>>2910116

Sometimes I do not relate to my fellow autistics and almost can see why normies do not like them. I'm a sperg and I hardly do lol.

No. 2910094

>>2910080
I also feel this whenever someone posts a "vent" of their persona being an anxious smol bean failure or whatever, and it's obvious that the OP is fishing for concerned comments.

No. 2910098>>2910103

>>2910092
They say autists get along or travel in packs but the biggest conflicts are between different autists, not autists vs normies ime

No. 2910099>>2910102

>>2910091
Let's not catastrophize being extremely insecure and needy. Unless you suicide bait your loved ones and homewreck your girlfriend's relantioships or skinwalk Becky With The Good Personality or think your bff is a Sweet Baby Angel Kins one week and a Baby Eating Devil Incarnate the second they don't comply to your image of them, you are essentially fine/ not as worse off

No. 2910100>>2910104

I am kind of sad for those who genuinely have it but the current wave of autism and adhd havers are so fucking annoying.

No. 2910102

>>2910099
Okay, this made me feel better, because I would never suicide bait or put emotional blackmail on someone like that, I think I am just probably a people pleaser with low self esteem.

No. 2910103

>>2910098
I think the worse ones are the ones with a chip on there shoulder or those that look for friends in support groups to embrace there more dysfunctional sides; unironically doing the one thing I hate that NTs do, which is take advantage of the social naivety of spergs ( sometimes compounded by being sheltered or coddled- especially and definitely the case of first world ones).

No. 2910104>>2910107

>>2910100
Do they even have it? It's all just TikTok kids self diagnosing or people in their 40s suddenly jumping on the bandwagon realising they're neurodivergent and that's why they supposedly didn't get that job 14 years ago

No. 2910107>>2910113

>>2910104
Its a grey/ nuanced matter imo. In my country's support group I definitely see one or two fakers ( and at least an unironic likely Bippie chan who swindled her way into a diagnosis, which I've been told by others online and here are dime a dozen). Quite a few aren't but have that same chip on there shoulder I talked about and may want to make excuses for their flaws using a valid diagnosis. Or are just annoying cunts. I feel not only is early intervention necessary for an autistic person and an Adhd to not lag behind emotionally with peers, it still won't do much if the Adhd/ autism person has no drive to self-improve and is complacent.

No. 2910109

>>2910072
Don't forget it also makes them rapists and pedos, we should take this more seriously as society!

No. 2910113

>>2910107
>it still won't do much if the Adhd/ autism person has no drive to self-improve and is complacent.
This, I hate the whole thing of "get diagnosed, it'll help your life!" like a diagnosis won't do anything if the person just doesn't care. It only adds to the mix in a negative way or gives them an excuse to be even worse. Especially autistic scrotes whose diagnoses are their get out of jail cards for literally fucking everything. They get life handed on a silver plate

No. 2910116>>2910134

>>2910092
i honestly dislike most other autistic people and neurodivergent (god i hate that word) people in general, i feel mean saying it but its true kek. the black and white thinking of autists is especially exhausting to be around. so many autists dont give a single shit about being not totally socially retarded, probably due to extreme coddling, and never work on themselves at all. literally the same person from age 7 to age 20-something kek. i wont pretend im also not immature and havent had issues with black and white thinking but i guess the difference is that my family didnt really give a shit that i was autistic and made me do everything the same way a normal person would. in a lot of ways it was traumatic but im also kinda grateful because i see all these hypercoddled spergs who turned out completely maladjusted in every possible way. and dont even get me started on the high correlation of autism and transgenderism lmao.

No. 2910117>>2910124>>2910129

Autistic men terrify me. The high functioning ones are arguably worse because they're aware of their bullshit yet their autism is able to rationalise it away. I'd rather have a sped who is happily unaware. They have the nastiest fetishes, they are prone to being sex pests and groomers due to their arrested development and the fact both normie and autistic women hate them.
It often creates antisocial behaviour too even in kids and once that's locked in, he'll just become hell once he's older. Of course saying this makes me some mean jealous Karen of some poor innocent boys but I can guarantee you they will never learn and change. And of course their family enables their crap.

No. 2910124

>>2910117
I worked in disabilities services when I was in college, and knew an autist scrote who outright blurted to a co-worker if she liked having sex. Faggot was creepy, fat, and just unpleasant to be around. There was also another autist faggot who made it way too obvious whenever he was interested in a woman and was an absolute creep about it. They truly are the worst.

No. 2910129

>>2910117
I am a staunch ableist towards any man with any mental illness or disability. They are always man child and entitled. Autists and downs are always send pests who harass women. A classmate of mine who had autism used to grab us, it was gross.

No. 2910134

>>2910116
Tbh I feel a major difference between people who have an healthy perspective on there diagnosis or not, are those that see there ( high functioning) autism as something they have to "train". Like ex. You have the same mechanisms that allow you to interact socially with others, you just need "to train" that muscle more often and develop different strategies to get around emotional or social deficiency ( which may include reducing interactions to a point yes, but you can be a functional person as someone introverted or more "picky"). Those who think others have to bend over to accommodate them and unironically take advantage of the better social skills of there less retarded autistic peers are particularly annoying. I'm distancing myself from this current group of autistic/ adhd people I befriended because I have to unironically mask around them or otherwise they do not like me. Normies have more readily accepted and enjoyed by more crass and unflinchingly honest side then this spergy fucks.

No. 2910159>>2910204

>>2910053
>>2909813
>>2910021
>>2910077
One of my aunts was a repeated victim of rape as a kid and she never healed from it and this is unfortunately what she is. She would tell all the girls in the family growing up that we would never be strong, real women if they didn't go through repeated CSA like her. I don't know if she thinks it's a genuine rite of passage/badge of honor or if she just wants everyone else to suffer like her.
I understand something like that can absolutely fucking destroy a person with trauma, I'm no stranger to it personally. She probably has no personality other than the trauma due to it being repeated and it's all she knew, and that's horrific too, but telling a bunch of fucking kids that it's a good thing or that they should go and get it to be strong is just vile beyond belief

No. 2910166>>2910176>>2910198

>>2910021
She worded it wrongly but being raped or abused as a child does shape you in a way and negatively impacts you. The whole “makes you stronger” is also harmful rhetoric. There is no real way to get over being raped.
Thing is that it makes others uncomfortable when people don’t get over it.

No. 2910176

>>2910166
I think people are definitely balking against a common way to cope ( that never sat well with me) and Trauma i feel does weird shit to your brain and is a coin flip if the person still remains decent afterwards or strives to still be an empathetic human being or basically turns into a victimizing/ victim blaming nuisance and there's essentially no real pattern to how/ why people turn that way. People go through "less" and turn super twisted while people who go through "more" are very life affirming to be around and more likely to do the necessary healing to get to that stage

No. 2910191

There's enough talk of clusterbees, are there any other personality disorders you can't stand?
Paranoid personality disorder is mine, it's as bad as cluster b tbh with equal amounts of black and white thinking, it's like schizophrenia but worse (at least schizophrenics' hallucinations aren't permanent). Also dependent personality, I don't care if they wanna be codependent on some shitty partner but if they have kids, god those poor kids being neglected while mommy needs to be taken care of first.

No. 2910198>>2910204

>>2910166
I am not disputing that, it ruins your life and fucks you up and you will never be normal. But getting mad at people who find a way to accept what has happened and keep doing is just mean spirited.

No. 2910204

>>2910198
Nobody was getting mad at people who tell themselves they are strong to survive, you didn't read it past the first sentence. It's the ones like >>2910159 who use it to project onto others or tell others to go get traumatized too that are a problem

No. 2912315>>2912321>>2912392>>2912396

Do autists really have "more empathy than neurotypicals" or is that a cope they excuse when normies accuse them of being weird and invasive kek. It always rubs me as them assuming people's emotions and then projecting rather than them having real empathy

No. 2912321>>2912326

>>2912315
Depends. Some have more empathy some have less

No. 2912326>>2912400>>2912413

>>2912321
Is it really empathy though? Empathy requires understanding human cognitions and social cues, things that autists inherently aren't good at. Assuming someone's in pain and projecting and imagining isn't empathy. Bippies do the same shit about how they feel so much

No. 2912392>>2912413

>>2912315
It's a cope and they have no empathy at all.

No. 2912396

>>2912315
They don’t. Autism is a cognitive disorder. Empathy is required to be an active and functioning social being, autism literally impairs that.
But nowadays they try to push it as just a personality trait rather than an actual disorder and I think that does a major disservice to those suffering from it.

No. 2912400>>2912404>>2912517

>>2912326
ime the difference between autism and BPD is that autists are getting all of the emotional signals from other people, they just can't interpret those signals well so it all comes in as noise. It's why you can have autists sad crying when other people are happy crying and be confused when someone explains that the people aren't sad, but a bippie is more likely to get mad at the happy criers for 'making them cry'

No. 2912404>>2912411>>2912482

>>2912400
>they just can't interpret those signals well so it all comes in as noise.
It makes them less obnoxious than bippies but again that's still not empathy. Empathy is putting yourself in a person's position and if it's all noise then you have no empathy imo

No. 2912411>>2912453

>>2912404
>Empathy is putting yourself in a person's position
Funny enough a majority of normies fail this criteria too. tbh I don't think empathy is as common as people like to think it is.
repost because it's late and my retard ass can't form sentences

No. 2912413>>2912419

>>2912392
Shit bait
>>2912326
Not necessarily. You can imagine a hypothetical scenario and feel empathy for the people involved in it even if they don't exist

No. 2912419

>>2912413
Kekkk a hypothetical scenario is literally you projecting emotions onto them to begin with, so no. You have full control over your hypothetical scenario

No. 2912453

>>2912411
Normies have empathy but they're assholes despite that.

No. 2912482

>>2912404
autistic people can put themselves in the other person's position if they've been in that exact same or close experience before, or a similar one they can compare to if they're not that low-functioning. So they can learn empathy over time. But they will do it out loud by saying Oh you're upset like the time I lost my dog and that is annoying.

No. 2912517>>2912549>>2912575

>>2912400
An overlapping thing I've noticed with tism and bpd. Nothing is wrong.. Are you mad at me?? Then the onus is put on you to reassure. However long that'll take. If you don't have all day to keep explaining yourself, gotcha that's just proof you were mad in the first place. It's a trap.

I esp don't get it when tism is involved because I swear alot of autistic women complain about being on the receiving end of the same shit. Judged for resting bitch face or for having a flat tone. Why do it

No. 2912549

>>2912517
I honestly can't stand anxious attached types like this. They insist they're harmless and yeah I guess they're not domestic physical abusers or whatever but it's really tiring to be constantly accused of hating them. Do they not realise that hurts their friends/partner too when they don't trust them?

No. 2912575>>2912637>>2912656

>>2912517
>If you don't have all day to keep explaining yourself, gotcha that's just proof you were mad in the first place. It's a trap.

I was in relationship with a bippie moid that literally dragged arguments for days, and of course he was a neet and became a neet when we got a house together so I assured him housing, because he didn't like my replies.
it was always shit like
>I do thing
>Bippie doesn't like my thing
>"Anon you're a retard"
>"I know I'm not, you're the retard for acting like a child"
>"OMG anonn!!" argument follows
>get tired (actually exhausted) from the argument, go to bed/focus on my interests/go out with friends
>"Anon? Are you mad at me?"
>"Yes"
>"Oh my gooddddd I know I'm horrible"
>Me, stupid, replying "You just need to learn how to cope" ok, end argument
>Day afted "anon are you mad at me" "no"
>a couple of hours after, "are you mad at me" "no"
>coming home from shift, tired from work "are you mad a me" "no, I'm tired"
>"Tired of me?? owwwwww I'm the worst!"
>"No I'm tired of work"
>"ok"
>after dinner "are you mad at me"
>"No."
>"But I can FEEL it"
>"You are wrong"
>"How you dare tell me I'm wrong! (actually heard this shit with my own couple of bleeding ears)
>Repeat, for days

They're failed humans, they have two emotions (obsession and blind rage) and they shift in between them, we should put bpd under a disability.

No. 2912637>>2912670>>2914093

>>2912575
>we should put bpd under a disability
It is tbh. In many states you can get disability benefits if your bpd is bad enough

No. 2912656

>>2912575
We shouldn't kek they'll immediately swarm to collect disability benefits and it'll just make their victim complexes a million times worse because the law now says they're valid

No. 2912670

>>2912637
I'm not talking about benefits, I'm talking about it being considered debilitating enough that you lose every right to your autonomy and your word doesn't count in like trials and such. Treating them like retards is the way to do.

No. 2913750

I don't care if they're suffering or traumatised, some people-pleasers and codependents are the worst type of enablers. They'll spend all their energy defending the person who did the bad act and when confronted they just claim that they want to please them. Oh daddy isn't malicious at all even though he beat you unconscious, he just was mad, don't be mean! There could be concrete evidence of their friend or family member doing the most heinous shit and all they can do is defend them and act like some mediator because they "don't wanna be mean".
Codependent parents get treated like angels who just love each other and their kids soooo much.

No. 2914093>>2914100>>2914121

>>2912637
BPD should not be classified as a disability. Real disabled people typically want to live life as close to normal as they possibly can, bippies tend to want to be called disabled (because it makes them a harmless victim, which is a narrative that they usually always try to perpetrate), and they love to be thought of as helpless little crippled eternally 7 year olds. Plus they're typically some kind of addict too so if they got automatic free gubmint bux they'd spend it all on booze or drugs and then complain that the gubmint hates them and isn't giving them enough for food and necessities kek. What BPDemoms need is mandated therapy that forces them to grow the fuck up.

No. 2914100>>2914104

>>2914093
I’m sorry if this is bait but this is ridiculous. A lot of people with BPD need time in their lives to go through therapy as a lot of them have extensive trauma that made them BPD in the first place, thus is the reason why some people go on disability.

No. 2914104>>2914105

>>2914100
BPD is genetic they don't need any trauma to be like that

No. 2914105>>2914108

>>2914104
That is literally bait lmao

No. 2914108>>2914115

>>2914105
go back

No. 2914115

>>2914108
Fuck off

No. 2914121>>2914132>>2914139>>2915103

>>2914093
This is just incorrect. I have BPD and I am very ashamed about it. I am retarded and very lonely and cringe when I think about things I have done or said in the past due to not being able to control my own emotions like an adult. It’s very shameful and embarrassing and not everybody copes with it the same. I for one am desperate to get a job so I can have a good life, and I am not affected to substances or alcohol.(not the thread for this discussion)

No. 2914132

>>2914121
I will say it for the last time. Fuck off

No. 2914139

>>2914121
this literally isn't the thread for you, and I've never met a bippie who didn't claim to be ashamed of how they behave while never actually behaving any different

No. 2914261>>2915112>>2916058

There's no official term for it but mental illness that gets induced by being chronically online. So many self diagnosed PDs/ADHD/autistics in online communities are literally only like that because they're constantly performing bullshit, it's social media after all and talking to people online is like playing Machiavellian tag.
Meanwhile they're pretty decently functioning in real life but since they're online all the time they don't have a differential reference and believe it affects all aspects of their life.
I can guarantee you that your crazy borderline attachment and attention span and confusion with emotions would magically disappear if you left that stupid Discord server or blocked every party in that 5-month-long Facebook drama once and for all. Okay, maybe you do have a few small attachment problems, but they're only presenting that badly because you're in that sort of mindset, lifestyle and interacting with other crazies. Take a breather and smell the flowers for once.

No. 2914879>>2915110

BDD.
Do you actually truly believe you were denied that job or your professor marked you down or people don't like you because your nose is 1mm shorter than the Hollywood standard or your jaw is 1° angled to the side?
Some forms of BDD should be lumped right into NPD. Sure you might not think everyone loves you but being that obsessed with yourself is the exact same shit, just different side of the coin.
You were denied that job and marked down because you're retarded and unqualified because all you do is obsess over your looks and body every day and you're an unlikeable cunt to begin with. BDDchans are extremely neurotic and any positivity or gentle advice will have them reeing until the cows come home. Not to mention the weird anachan/scrote tier/tranny tier standards they have for themselves.
>"Omg I'm so ugly because I'm a fatso (is BMI 18) and I hate being so tall and mannish (is 5'6), I wish I was a short pretty girly, I can't get a bf wahhh"
>"Those are completely normal things and not ugly, learn to love yourself first"/"I'm those things and it's not better"/"Wishing you the best"
>"REEEEE stfu you whore you'll never understand what it's like to be ME, you dumb sluts live on easy mode with all the dicks you suck, fuck you skinny pale short bitches, die, I hope you get raped and murdered by ugly fat insert race moids bb"
Yeah we see why nobody likes you. Keep going at it, maybe you'll attract one of your own too, match made in heaven.
BDDkuns are equally as obnoxious and love spreading their moidpill gymrat shit to literal children.

No. 2915103

>>2914121
You bippies have to learn that you don't have to reply to every bpd slander you see online. There's a reason that your disorder is the most hated and you won't do any favour to it.

No. 2915110>>2916027

>>2914879
It's very difficult to sympathise with BDDchans who cry that their ethnicity makes them ugly, or the ones who obviously just want to look like kids so they can go a gross coquette LARP. I know it's a mental illness but jfc, it's the epitome of "not a real problem." They always act like vindictive trannies towards other women too.

No. 2915112>>2916027

>>2914261
>I can guarantee you that your crazy borderline attachment and attention span and confusion with emotions would magically disappear if you left that stupid Discord server or blocked every party in that 5-month-long Facebook drama once and for all.
KEK, it really is always the people in 10 Discord servers where everyone is a gendie and/or a pervert

No. 2916027

>>2915110
I've been treated as having undesirable features due to being a minority which was pretty disheartening but I don't get how people think their ethnicity makes them inherently ugly tbh. It's sad
>>2915112
>pervert
It's always the neurotic people into weird fetishes who have the most drama too.

No. 2916058

>>2914261
Now that I think about it, a few years ago I was really caught up in this chronically online drama. My and everyone else's behavior on and in there would've qualified for all the clusterbee criteria kek we were crazy. And boom I left and it poofed away

No. 2917217>>2917491>>2922379

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do I need to say which one

No. 2917491

>>2917217
I mean it's DA kek

No. 2917596>>2918962

The kind of trauma where they constantly excuse the harm they do to innocent people later with "this is how I had to survive!"
Yeah I get it if you had to punch back someone who was punching you or learn to lie to a cruel parent to survive in childhood. So what, how does that excuse you beating the shit out of your innocent family in adulthood or lie to your partner?

No. 2917694

Is it just me or do bippies online have a tendency to start drama with minors quite a lot?
Don't get me wrong they do start it with other adults too but it's like children are an easy target. Or maybe they're in arrested development and mentally on the same level as those kids? I imagine a well adjusted adult would just leave and block or something
This might be fucked up of me but every time a bippie online starts allegations against some teen being "problematic" I assume the bippie groomed them and is now deflecting accountability. Grooming is incredibly common with cluster b types anyway because of the power and because of their own arrested development but nobody dares speak a word about it because it's so mean and ableist apparently.

No. 2917802>>2918410

It's harsh but I don't really see the point in trying to maintain friendships with people with low functioning ADHD. Plans always get ruined because they can't get their shit together, and anything you tell them in an attempt to socialize will be forgotten anyway. It's like trying to be friends with a brick wall who said they're "totally leaving their house now" 4 hours ago

No. 2918410

>>2917802
People with ADHD are literally built not to prioritise you over whatever cheap dopamine they get.
Worse when it's in a partner. The amount of women who date an ADHD moid who's a porn and vidya addict due to it is pathetic. He's literally wired not to choose you, can't remember your birthday or anniversary but can remember a 30 character cheat code for hentai sex cat simulator 2000

No. 2918934>>2918947

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RSD isn't real, right? There's no way that "Has a panic attack every time someone calls them out on bad behavior" is a real disorder. This is clown world nonsense.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/feb/25/rise-of-rejection-sensitive-dysphoria

No. 2918947>>2918962

>>2918934
It's not, like ODD doesn't exist.
"But my child is bratty and doesn't listen to me!" that's not a "Oppositive Disorder", it's just a kid. Munchies and malingerers really try the impossible to avoid responsibilities

No. 2918962>>2918971

>>2918947
You know, I've never met an "Oppositional Defiant" whose parents weren't complete pushovers. Are we just medicalizing the results of bad parenting now?
>>2917596
I don't accept childhood trauma as an excuse for bad behavior once someone has reached their 30s. It's just not healthy to excuse such things in my loved ones at my big age. If someone hasn't worked through their trauma responses within 12 years of adulthood, they probably aren't going to figure it out after that same time period.

No. 2918971>>2918974

>>2918962
To the extent "real ODD" exists I believe it's just what you call child sociopaths

No. 2918974>>2918985

>>2918971
I understand why we don't, but I sometimes wish we could just diagnose kids with sociopathy and provide intensive treatment. You can legitimately just tell early that something is wrong with some of them and those kids don't get better.

No. 2918985

>>2918974
You have a few conduct antisocials as a result of neglect or abuse but some kids really, truly are born fucked up. And treatment doesn't do shit, nor does trying to help them and keep them out of jail or being kind to them if they do crimes or whatever. Just look at the Jamie Bulger case, those kids did horrific crimes and boom decades later they're still fucked up

No. 2918990>>2925789>>2925827>>2926824

can someone explain why everyone wants to cape for or larp as NPD now? edgelordery with the younguns? or actual psyop by people who have it?

No. 2921324>>2925704

I think that the dead giveaway of a lot of girls not having BPD is that they say stuff like "I have BPD but would never do this!"
Sure I'm happy but real bippies WOULD and they wouldn't care! That's the point!
When I hear bpd slander it's usually on the annoying side like "eugh bippies be dramatic" no nonnies, BPD people are a mental trap of manipulation, lies, attention seeking and abuse. Stuff that, if you're weak or sensitive, would make you actually kill yourself and I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. When I was deep into BPD abuse, I was exhausted and I lost so much faith in people that I actually thought about killing myself because in house I was treated like shit and outside the house I was treated like the worst person on earth for leaving poor bippie alone.
Bippie made himself at home at my home. It was easier to abandon my home and then make them get evicted. To get away safely I had to pack my stuff in my own home, leave and then call the police and tell them to kick him out.
>omg nonna that's extreme they're retarded anyway you could've done it!
The options were:
>Tell him to get the fuck out and get hit almost to death and then witness the "sob sob Im a bad person right? Sob sob" for the one hundred fucking time
>Come home to a bloody scene of him slicing his arms and leaving a note that I was responsible and I made him do it.
Saying "lol no hes fucking sick in the head" doesn't work in court. You will be taken into trials and good luck.
One advice that I want to give you: avoid antivictim spaces.
>What are anti victim spaces?
Spaces that use language/rhetorics like
>"Anon I know you're suffering but they suffer too!"
>"Anon by making him suffer you're not better than the ones that made him this way! (For some reasons they refuse to acknowledge the genetic component of BPD, as if it's a confirmation of their faulty, useless nature)
>"Anon, revenge is useless!" (Of course don't go full moid rage, but hurting them a little in the feefees that they don't have won't kill them, trust me)
>"Don't think about pain, you really want your life to be controlled by pain?"
>"We don't judge people here! (Of course they mean them, not you)"

These spaces use their same technique. A "safe space" telling you that you wouldnt be better than bippies is like a bippie telling you that you're a bad person if you try to be accountable.
They purposely target good people because they know that you will be sad to be called like a narc or something.
Never feel bad about hurting their feelings back. They don't have them.
It's not alogging, because to them face their actions is bad enough to make them kill themselves. Don't be afraid to be called a bitch, everyone would be a bitch when they've been pushed to the limit.
>But nonna, your case was extreme.
You never know with bippies. You never know if they will spiral or stop at the dramatic (still annoying) part of BPD.
We are all laughing here but please take them seriously and cut them off asap or make them not trust you before it's too late. I didn't and I was almost in trial for pedophilia because this fucker wanted to ruin my house by telling the cops that he was there to "control me" and I had "material" in my house. He wanted my privacy and house ruined upside down because I told him that he was gonna get evicted and if I was there in person, he would've probably hurt me.
>How?
Be flaky. Be silent. Never house them of course. They will get bored. Just go "ew" at their attention attemps.

Please, I beg you. Take this advice.

No. 2922351>>2922379

Autistic women who are misogynistic and chalk it on how normie women are apparently all cliquey evil bitches.
I get being autistic makes them prone to black and white thinking but women are not a fucking monolith, what high school stereotype groups are you trying to hang out with?
>inb4 bullied by girls/had a bad mom when younger etc.
Not that alone. It's normal to be wary around a group after they fucked you up, that's different, but some autist women are so actively misogynistic that it makes me wonder if they were the problem to begin with.
Then there's the schizo ones who claim normie women are some superpowered narcissists who can "smell" their autism from a hundred yards away and apparently prey on and ostracize them for it on the spot. I get they live in fantasy a lot but normie women and people in general are decent, unless you're spitting in their face when they walk past you there's no way they're all being awful to you the very millisecond they lock eyes with you.
I can guarantee your lack of social cues made you say or do rude shit to them who rightfully avoided you and now you just want to play victim. Go to therapy and learn some skills.
It's also the reason so many of them TIF out. Again, black and white thinking make them believe they're sooper speshual true doods as a result kek

No. 2922379>>2922384

>>2922351
>inb4 bullied by girls/had a bad mom when younger etc
My psych says I'm autistic (diagnosis still needs to be officialized so take this with a grain of salt) and the people who hurt me the most from childhood until late-teens were women, including my mom, yet I was always the feminist kid turned radfem teen who read theory every day. I'm not telling you this to look good or say "not all of us", I'm telling you this to drive home the point that the women you're calling out have no excuse whatsoever and are definitely chosing to be this way. It's sad.
>>2917217
>Rainbow Dash cowering
Very OOC. She's known for being brave and fast, she would've won against the nazis in that picture

No. 2922384

>>2922379
Fair enough, I mean you're not an example of what I was mentioning anyway kek it's good

No. 2925704

>>2921324
My mother is NPD as fuck. Quite literally textbook. She was a monster to grow up with. And yet, every bippie I've ever met has absolutely eclipsed her in pure mindfuckery. My mother was at least easy to read with obvious motivations and triggers. You can (literally, had a bippie moid break up with me for it) breathe wrong around someone with BPD and for some reason it destroys their inner world, ego, sense of self and security. There's no rhyme or reason. They're like if skittish horses were also incredibly manipulative and emotionally abusive. Anything can fucking set them off.

No. 2925761

I was raised by a mother who never deemed me good enough, I was constantly compared to other people and found less ambitious, less smart, slower etc. Even the gifts I gave her were criticized and she always pointed it out if she thought I didn't spend enough money on her. If I disagreed with her on anything or I did something that she didn't like (I chose not to do a masters in humanities that she kept pushing) then she would give me the silent treatment for days or weeks or implicitly threatened me that I will be cut off from her will because there are better and more ambitious people that are more like her and more deserving. I eventually cut her off because every time I visited her my self-esteem tanked and I developed suicidal thoughts but I still get periods of suicidal ideation and feeling worthlessness.
I am not sure if she has NPD or borderline (her mood changes very quickly and sometimes she literally behaves like an abandoned child who needs to be mothered and told what to do)

No. 2925776

Nothing I hate more than women that constantly yammer on about being authentic and searching for deep connections while being compulsive liars and malingerers. It's like they externalize what they should be teaching themselves.
>oh i love that we can be intimate without having to play roles
>meanwhile can't play a single role besides being a selfish compulsive liar that transforms into the person they want attention from

No. 2925789

>>2918990
There aren't enough unique causes left to virtue signal about. Struggling with autism is boring and so last season, the munchies need a new personality trait.

No. 2925827>>2926172

>>2918990
We're a few years into this bs of people armchair diagnosing every asshole in their life as having npd and bringing so much attention to it. This is what follows.

When men started casually deciding that their ex gfs and ex wives must all just be crazy bpd bitches, that put a spotlight on it and a lil while later women were self diagnosing despite it being a 'big stigma' dx that you shouldn't want. Same spotlight is on npd, it's thrown around too casually when it comes to diagnosing other people in your life. In come the larpers who just want to have the diagnosis of the moment.

No. 2925952

my dad is an alcoholic hoarder and the only reason our entire apartment isn't filled to the brim with garbage is because me and my mom keep throwing things away. our place is unnecessarily big and he already trashed one room that was supposed to be his "study" many years ago. i can't wait for him to die so we can throw it all away. stacks of old yellow scratched cds, broken electronics he swears he'll fix, bags and bags of clothes he's too fat for, at least 20 jackets that reek of cigarettes, moldy books on fishing, expired fish food, etc etc
he used to keep fish in these huge (and expensive!!!) custom-made fish tanks back when he was a somewhat functional person. he spent a bunch of money on the equipment, filters, lights and the fish themselves. one day he just got bored of them and stopped feeding them. they all starved to death and the water evaporated. his "study" is literally a fish graveyard. me and my mom didn't know because we stopped going there as it was already starting to fill up with garbage
past two years he keeps pissing and shitting himself and farting all the time it's fucking disgusting. he sleeps in the living room and i could be sitting in the kithcen straight across from him eating my breakfast and he'll just rip ass like i'm not even there.
also he used to threaten to kill himself me when i was 16. i remember coming home after classes and he just came up to me and started trying to guilt me for telling him to die earlier when he threatened me and my mom. he brought a rope from his "study" and tried to make a noose with it and failed. i told him he's too fat for it to hold. then he took a knife and started making a "slitting my wrists" motion across his arm. i told him the proper way to cut is along the arm and left. i knew he wasn't going to do shit because he's a coward but i still decided to wait it out outside and wait for my mom to come back from work. when we came back inside he was watching tv like nothing happened
i can't comprehend how his body is still holding up. he drinks 7+ liters of beer A DAY. that man is 80% beer at this point. how is he still not dead i have no idea. god please take him. he's ready

No. 2926172

>>2925827
it is literally impossible to talk about bad women because men will immediately take what you say and use it against all the women in their life they don't like. And then they bitch about the so-called women are wonderful effect that they themselves have created.

No. 2926820

I can’t stress enough how much I hate BPD havers.
When the people around them choose themselves instead of subjective themselves to mistreatments they act as if they have gotten abused.

No. 2926824

>>2918990
Npd is the new trend now? Kek.
Last year it was autism, before it was DID, before it was tics and in the peak tumblr era everybody had major depression

No. 2928631>>2928645>>2928662>>2929137>>2930375

I’ve been seeing this chick’s videos for years where she does short clips trying to look like a sexy sociopath, but this longform interview really ties together what is so off-putting about her and other people with ASPD.

No. 2928645>>2928657

>>2928631
She looks like she's trying to constantly do the megan fox eye thing but just looks downsy

No. 2928657

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>>2928645
nta but it reminds me of the Baldwin brothers kek

No. 2928662>>2928677

>>2928631
Nah she's definitely faking it. She gives too generic answers

No. 2928677>>2928744

>>2928662
She’s been talking about her ASPD diagnosis for 10+ years, and some of her former friends have come out to verify that she is a horrible person.

No. 2928719

Whatever it is that makes some trauma-havers NEVER lash out at the people who actually hurt them and only do it with easy targets. It's just cowardly behavior and repeating the cycle, trauma or no it's not an excuse. Eg person lashing out at their siblings who were also abused by the same parents rather than the parents themselves, person lashing out at their friends telling them to leave their abusive partner rather than said partner. It doesn't make sense to me.
The worst part is that cases like this are ALWAYS self aware and have the means to leave but just… don't. Idk if they like the power or drama but it's so tiring to be a loved one of these people. They will constantly turn to you to whine and bitch about the abyooser in their life, treat you as a punching bag to cope with it and then have the audacity to get mad when you get hurt by it because reee they're just traumatized.

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No. 2929137

>>2928631
I don't really know how to say this properly but it's always so cringe when you're watching someone and you can tell what they think they look like, kek

No. 2930375>>2930422>>2930431

>>2928631
IMO these kinds of viral videos are part of a push to place the heat off of moid crime stats and predatory behavior, as more and more women are noticing that men are the problem. Then moids can say, "see? women can be psychopaths too, and are equally as bad as men or worse!"

No. 2930422

>>2930375
agree. Also everyone focusing on Ghislaine and Hilary in the Epstein case.

No. 2930431>>2930439>>2930470

>>2930375
It bothers me a lot when people make a big deal out of every crime committed by a woman. Not because they shouldn't be criticized but because no one even gives a shit when men do terrible things, it's just considered the norm. The coverage is so disproportionate. Like all those female teachers that moids love to talk about as being groomers and loving young boys when in reality the opposite happens way more frequently(male teachers grooming female victims)

No. 2930439

>>2930431
moids will try anything to prove that they aren't as aggressively hostile as they seemingly are innate to being. So even if women are statistically less likely to commit sex abuse crimes, the mainstream media ran by moids will try and whitewash it with a female perpetrator and blur the line between men and their aggression. If women do it too they can just label it a "bad human thing" instead of moids being dangerous in nature. It's just manipulation, and the reinforcement of men as victims and not the one making victims, by doing this people are less likely to ask for moids to take accountability.

No. 2930470>>2930489>>2930597

>>2930431
Me when men accuse women of being dogfuckers and pedophiles (99.9% of bestiality and pedo cases are scrotes)

No. 2930489

>>2930470
it’s like with female pedophiles, the 1 percent who do shock everyone and men talk about it incessantly. crazy when women are furries though.

No. 2930518>>2930590

I know autist moid hate has been brought up multiple times but I just got reminded of a furfag autist moid I knew. He would openly draw gay furry art in class and was constantly on Furaffinity looking at porn while at school. Now I see he is just always making posts on social media broadcasting to everyone, including his family and normie friends, about random furfags on FA and Bluesky begging for emergency money. Autist moids really need to be sent to some hard labor camp out in the wilderness and kept away from the Internet for good.

No. 2930590

>>2930518
Ugh thanks for unlocking a repressed memory about this autist moid in high school who showed me furry incest unbirth vore (unspoiler at your own goddamn risk.) Do retard adults still force autist to befriend autist moids? That was the worst social experiment.

No. 2930593>>2930596>>2933526

I've been seeing more and more video about people claiming to have Pathological Demand Avoidance and I can't see it as anything more that being lazy and throwing a fit about being told or asked to do something.
It pisses me off so much.

One was a skit of somebody washing dishes when their partner makes a comment about it they suddenly can't do it anymore. Like get over yourself. Nobody should have to cater to some lazy POS who has to be constantly coddled like that.

No. 2930596>>2930605

>>2930593
Isn't that something they typically diagnose in children? Why are adults claiming to have it. It's like oppositional defiance disorder kek I thought it was something they only dx'd in kids. Usually is a precursor to other disorders like autism but wtf

No. 2930597

>>2930470
Never trust a man who makes dogfucker jokes tbh they always have some kind of issue

No. 2930605

>>2930596
Yeah fully grown adults, most seem to be trashy looking women and autism content creators so it makes sense that they're lazy and looking for "muh mental health" excuses to get out of helping with household tasks.

I once had a boyfriend try that excuse and had to tell him that if he's not going to do on his own and "can't" do it if I ask then there's no point in keeping him around if I'm already doing everything o n my own, and I never had that issue again.
I don't see why anybody's partners put up with that shit. It's so insanely selfish.

No. 2930654>>2933318>>2933982

Not a specific one but that phenomenon when someone vents about having a loved one with X disorder who is harmful due to said disorder and then fellow sufferers of X disorder crawl out of the woodworks to make it all about themselves.
The person's vent is some shit like:
>So my mom has BPD and she was absolutely awful to me and my brother as children, she's currently trying to stalk us
>My partner has schizophrenia and I'm getting terrified of what he'll do, he's getting violent and deluding that he's God and I'm the devil
>My sister is bipolar and not taking her meds and I'm terrified for her kids
And the replies are all just
>Omg as someone with bpd too I'm so sorryyy, it's a terrible disorder to have and I'm very sympathetic
>I have schizophrenia and I absolutely understand how your partner feels right now, it's scary, it was scary for me, and I'm very sorry you're all going through this
>I'm a bipolar too and diagnosed in 2011 in the state of Kentucky and that sounds so much like what I used to go through, so sorry
>Random anecdote of their own delusions/behavior that nobody fucking asked for
Mate none of you retards are "sorry" for the victim in question. It's clear as water you got triggered by the vent's existence, didn't want to be stigmatized, and had to immediately shove yourself into the conversation to sound like one of the "good ones". If you were TRULY sympathetic you'd just say you're sorry for what they're going through and end it there without having to bring up the fact you share that disorder for no relevant reason. Also it's very clear you sympathize with the shitty loved one instead kek. Nobody fucking cares what you have
I'd rather they start screeching about stigma than whatever the fuck this fake empathy bullshit is. And you can never call it out either or else you're the mean ableist

No. 2933318>>2933982

>>2930654
Honestly this behavior online kind of reminds me of people who respond to vents about men with "Not all men!" or rationalizations for why men do shitty things. It's tiresome.

No. 2933526

>>2930593
i legit kicked someone out of my house because they used this as an excuse to not do an extremely simple task. They said "well, when you demand things of me, it makes me not want to do them. I'll get to it but not today. I have demand avoidance." okay well I have dumbass intolerance, bye.

No. 2933982>>2934046

>>2930654
>>2933318
Seriously, they just have to make it about themselves the same way a scrote would. I hate bippies so much. "Omg I'm bipolar and-" no bitch YOU SUCK TOO.

No. 2934046

>>2933982
Bipolar isn't BPD, BPD is borderline personality disorder

No. 2934188>>2934218>>2934340

I truly wonder what goes on in the minds of projecters (usually bippies or paranoids). Like, do they truly believe you do the shit they accuse you of, or is it more they wanna neg you as bad so they think of whatever bad shit they'd do and slap it on?
I've only got two experiences, one a paranoid family member who accuses everyone around him of shit he does. Latest one was reeing that everyone leaves their dirty dishes on the table after a meal rather than taking them to the sink (literally NOBODY in the family does this except him, he leaves his half eaten meals around the house 24/7 and will leave the table with a full bowl/plate left if the food isn't to his liking like a fucking toddler). It's laughable. The other was a bippie who split on me after I wouldn't indulge her suicide baiting and claimed I was a narcissist who constantly went out and attention sought everywhere and in our friend group. Like mate you turned me into the biggest introvert stereotype to avoid you whenever we had any sort of meetings, I was terrified of being seen and especially around you, meanwhile you would throw tantrums whenever nobody was looking at you but alright, I'm the loud attention seeker lmao.
Like surely they're SOMEWHAT aware of it? The shit they project is so far away from the truth right in front of everyone. I get heavy mental disorders make you disconnected from reality but the truth is so opposite from what they claim.

No. 2934218

>>2934188
everyone leaves dishes on the table = you should clear up after me. You're a narcissist = you won't give me the attention I want. They know. They're saying what they need to say to try and get what they want. If they didn't know it would be some completely off the wall accusation like with schizophrenia.

No. 2934340>>2934357>>2934484

>>2934188
I have bpd. It is not projection. During the fact I do believe wathever dumb shit my brain decided was the truth. After the fact, I can aknowledge that I was the dumb evil person in the situation. Ì will interpret anything to make it fit in my current unhinged narrative. It's not a fun thing to deal with.

No. 2934356>>2934387

I think it's funny how the easiest way to clock an autist online is their obsession with misusing the term "anyway".
I'm noticing it more and more with people that are so fucking off these days, almost like a confirmation. Is there an uptick in people having it? Is it a LARP? Why can't they just go somewhere.

No. 2934357>>2934415>>2934699

>>2934340
I don't think I have BPD but for as long as I've remembered when I saw something, I became that thing. For instance, I'd see someone with a tic, who would maybe slur a certain word, and I'd start doing it too without my will. I would absorb words I heard people around me say. If I was with someone who couldn't spell, my IQ also became lower. If I was with someone very happy, I became joyful too and my vocabulary increased. I found myself yawning and I'd look at the room around me and be exhausted even though I was well rested that night and see other people have yawned too. I'd learn about animals and their lives and I'd think "wow, they're so similar to me" and suddenly every person's behavior would seem animalistic as well, and I could pinpoint they did x because they were hungry, y because they wanted to reproduce, etc. I would hear someone's political opinions and my own would change, even unconsciously. And then at some point that'd stop. The world would change based on my beliefs. Do you also experience this? What do you think it is or causes it?

No. 2934387>>2934960

>>2934356
People are unironically giving themselves autism symptoms (mostly social dysfunction and sensory sensitivity) through technology and social media overuse. Our brains are always growing, so people who do not practice good social skills and empathy will find those skills diminished after a couple of years. When you curate your own sensory environment all of the time and never have to cope with unpleasant stimuli, you lose the ability to modulate sensory stimuli. None of them are autistic because they weren't born that way and lack the developmental part of the disability, but their acquired symptoms are dysfunctional enough to fool clinicians. Ironically, the genuine autists I know these days who stay off the internet and go to irl hobby clubs function better socially than "late diagnosed" folks who decided that their nonexistent autism gave them an excuse to isolate from others.

No. 2934415

>>2934357
Isn't that just normal human behavior. A bit of normal empathy at best and poor opinion making at worst. BPD mirroring is based on image, self worth, larping because they have zero identity or want to hook your attention, it's conscious creepy skinwalking

No. 2934484

>>2934340
>Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you OR to defend a specific disorder because "[thing] people are actually etc etc" because seeing patterns is not illegal. If your disorder gets posted here, cope and hide the thread, don't be a little bitch.

No. 2934690

The type of autists (I don't care if they're real or fakers or misdiagnosed) who are convinced every fucking symptom is autism in others and want to spread their plague/trend.
Someone questioning could tell them they don't experience social difficulties or sensory problems or need for repetition or fixed interests or problems with empathy or nuance, and the autist will STILL somehow say "don't worry it's a spectrum you can still be autistic!" Like yeah, it's a spectrum but you still have to fall within at least one of those criteria kek.
Or them seeing the mildest normie trait and deeming it autism when you have to have a pervasive consistent issue with a trait to be diagnosed. E.g. being socially awkward once or an outcast isn't autistic. If it was that broad, everyone who was shy once is now autistic. Every "weird kid" is now autistic. Every traumatized black sheep of the family is autistic now apparently. Ridiculous

No. 2934699

>>2934357
You're just impressionable and probably gullible. I guarantee you probably have a low self-esteem and second guess yourself.

No. 2934853

The anxiety where they're constantly paranoid that you hate them and act like you do. And you can't talk about how it hurts you because everyone assumes you're actually doing something to make them feel unlovable.
>"You sound like they have a valid reason to think you hate them!"
>"Have you thought about why they feel that way?"
No, not always. And yes I have thought about it. Sometimes the person's anxiety comes elsewhere, it can be preexisting from a myriad of other issues. Either way it's not like it doesn't tire their loved ones to constantly reassure them when they ask "do you hate meee" for the nth time that day.
Being accused of hating someone or having malicious intentions hurts when you genuinely want the best for them and have been trying to show it. It's not quantum physics.

No. 2934960

>>2934387
That's wild. The ones that I've seen are always also coincidentally chronically online. They could be LARPing but none of the ones I've met in person mention being late diagnosed. But they all mention shit like hating their elementary school teachers, insisting on stupid shit like sensitivity to food temperatures, and have a very clockable tone of speech.

No. 2936722>>2936730>>2937228>>2948989

I don't have a lot of sympathy for adult cult victims who chose to join knowing the shit that goes on behind the scenes. IMO you have to be some special sort of narcissist or just downright mentally retarded to be a grown adult and fall for some bullshit about an apocalypse or that some faggot is the second coming of Christ that'll save your precious soul and donate in hundreds of dollars every month to some megachurch so the pastor can buy himself a Lambo and more CP.
If you are collateral family being extorted, or you were born in one as a kid, then that's completely different and fucked up but a lot of stories of grown adults (usually middle aged, not even young adults who I'd give a pass to) who choose to join sound like they deserve to be part of that shit to begin with.
>Some were grieving and alone!
Sorry but plenty of other lonely people grieving still know to find solace in normal communities or therapy or local support groups, rather than weird shit asking them for hundreds of dollars a month.

No. 2936730

>>2936722
The cult leaders are literally always the same too kek
>male
>Middle Aged
>I am the messiah that’s why you have to suck my cock

No. 2936991

Well I am antisocial so others probably struggle with me(wrong thread)

No. 2937228>>2937233>>2937640

>>2936722
I watched a video about the Twin Flames cult, and everyone who came onto it had a sob story about how they were soooo scared and couldn't leave because there would be "consequences"…and the whole time I was genuinely tweaking because this "cult" was a Facebook group. A Facebook group. GROWN ADULTS WITH JOBS WERE ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO GET BULLIED IN A FACEBOOK GROUP AND IT WAS RUN BY SOME LITERAL WHO FRUMPY SCAMMER COUPLE THAT NOBODY EVEN LIKED. And their business is still going! The only person I felt bad for was a woman who got groomed into dating an older, abusive man when she was only a teenager. Everyone else is a fucking idiot.

No. 2937233>>2937241>>2938565

>>2937228
so many of them had autism, mentally disabled or weirdly self-hating gay in that cult

No. 2937241

>>2937233
The self-hating gays are funny to me, I'm sorry. If it gets to the point where you're spending thousands upon thousands of dollars to hear some guy talk about a husband's "right" to assault his wife, maybe it's time to just accept that you're in a closet.

No. 2937640>>2938537

>>2937228
I feel bad for young adults who are roped into more insidious nice looking ones (why are there so many of them on uni campuses trying to get people's details where I'm from kek) but there's the ones that straight up say "Pay me $600 to see God every month" and then you have grown retards in their 40s falling for it. Am I supposed to have sympathy for uncle Jim whose wife divorced him because of his gambling habit because some grifting cult on Facebook said he'd find eternal happiness if he throws in thousands of bucks a year? Nah.

No. 2938536

i might just be an asshole but im dealing with a bippie and her relationship drama right now and its making me want to throw my phone into the ocean

No. 2938537

>>2937640
>there's the ones that straight up say "Pay me $600 to see God every month"
Kek, people say cults are manipulative and pretend to be nice at first but these ones don't even try to hide it.

No. 2938565

>>2937233
i see u tree lady

No. 2943816>>3026636>>3089562

Whatever my mom had. Idk if it was BPD but she definitely seemed to have the "splitting" phenomenon. Not on me and my sister ever but the harm it caused was worse than if it had been tbh.
When I was around 9 and her 7 she'd constantly tell us about how much of a prince charming her boyfriend was and then the next day cry and rant about how horrible and rude he was to her. When he came over they'd often have sex right in the middle of the kitchen or living room and no we weren't spying on them, it would happen when we came home from school as we opened the front door.
That was already pretty annoying at best to be treated like her therapist but long story short he ended up committing sexual offences against us and when she found out she beat the shit out of us for weeks on end and starved us for "seducing the love of her life". Eventually someone at school noticed the clear physical evidence and we were questioned and thankfully he was investigated and arrested for other things but that just made her worse because she did not stop "mourning" him for a long long while.
To this very day she still says we're disgusting whores who sought out to destroy her loving relationship and it's also because we "inherited our dad's genes" (lol). Haven't heard from her for a while but she's just gotten even more paranoid over the years, the last time she got ahold of my number from looking me up and I kid you not started accusing me and sister of stealing her current partner who left her even though I live three states away. Truly forever fixated on us

No. 2943882>>2946731

hate hate hate dealing with OCD and having the person force their rituals on you & you have to go along with it otherwise you feel bad or “mean”. I’m so close to snapping, I know they can’t help it and I wish I could take it away, but I’m going to explode if I have to reassure 10 more times in an hour that everything’s okay nothing bad or dirty got into anything,, no I don’t have an aneurysm or meningitis, no I don’t want to dump out my pop and get a new one because you walked by it

No. 2946384>>2946386>>2947101>>2949250

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i always find it so cringe when bippies try to make their disorder out to be something aesthetic, sexy or cool. theyre literally the most vapid and often stupidest people ive ever met, who all live completely miserable empty lives searching for somebody or something to use for their next dopamine rush. nothing about that will ever be cute or desireable kek. go to therapy and become a better person (they wont ever do this)

No. 2946386>>2946436

>>2946384
>beautiful princess disorder
How about violent abuser disorder?
They also think it makes them empathetic like nah mate real empathy is actually putting yourself in their shoes and not assuming how they feel and amplifying that

No. 2946436

>>2946386
they kinda do act like royalty but in the negative way; giant egos, ignore all criticism or advice, expect you to read their minds, etc

No. 2946618>>2948974

The number of gendie zoomer teens who have diagnosed themselves with EDS and POTS and absolutely need a service dog, cane, and wheelchair is too goddamm high, because their diagnosis is actually just a narcissistic personality disorder

No. 2946731

>>2943882
It's so exhausting reassuring them and if they're in OCD mode it's impossible to get them out of it. I find the best thing to do is do the ritual (washing hands excessively in my case) to stop their freakout, and then quickly distract them with a game or tv show or sharing some fun/interesting news to get their minds off it. If you lean too much into enabling the rituals I swear they just get more panicky and embarrassed and it gets worse, it's best to just whizz on to something else. It's tiresome. My OCD friend is also going insane about meningitis, even though we live in Manchester. She has a cold sore and is now going insane thinking her immune system is compromised. It doesn't matter what I say, I just have to distract distract distract.

No. 2947101

>>2946384
I have a bippie older sister who was actually diagnosed and while she isn't on social media parading her diagnosis, the vapid and stupid descriptors are apt. Just about all her actions are done for social media updoots from creepy scrotes and when I asked her why she feels the need to show off her barely-clothed body to strangers on the Internet, she got offended by my question and wouldn't give me a good answer.

On another note while we are on the topic of bippies, she came out a while back to my parents about getting breast implants because she claims she could not get her breasts bigger. She has extremely disordered eating and is thin as a stick. It's actually pretty concerning. Before her disordered eating, she looked normal and was not flat as a board. When my parents and I suggested she should just eat more instead of applauding her on getting breast implants, she got extremely pissy at us. Even her husband (i.e. her spineless enabler) did not agree she needed implants but is going to pay for them anyways for whatever reason. I hate him.

I don't talk to her anymore not only for these reasons but because, surprise, surprise, she was also abusive to me when we were kids. She once confessed to me she actually got violent towards her last ex-boyfriend and has also slashed the car tires of people she hated.

No. 2948963>>2948974>>2949250>>2949329

All cluster b men are pedophiles at heart and you will not change my mind. Cluster bs are addicted to unbalanced power dynamics where they have free and easier rein to abuse and manipulate, that plus male entitlement and power based thinking creates the worst of the worst.
>but there's nothing neurological that links the two disorders!
This might ruffle some feathers but pedophilia is not a mental disorder and is 99% of the time a conscious, voluntary CHOICE. Most ones are also simultaneously in relationships with and/or pursue adults. Saying it's a mental disorder is just a way to excuse their behavior and claiming they're poor helpless little sufferers who can't help it. Yes they fucking can. They do it because the power dynamic makes them feel giddy with opportunity. It's that simple.
Especially apd. Has everyone casually forgotten to be properly diagnosed with that shit you have to have a consistent record of physical and often sexual abuse against peers and animals from a young age? "Stigma" my fucking ass.

No. 2948974>>2948980

>>2946618
i hate malingers so much its unreal. i wish we could somehow take all the disabilities from real disabled people and give it to them since they want it so badly. however i dont really think its a zoomer thing necessarily, i see people of all ages pulling that bullshit
>>2948963
people who cry over the "stigma" of cluster B personality disorders are always cluster Bs themselves or people who are malingering as one for edgelord purposes. its literally a personality disorder. you have to have an awful personality and be harmful to other people to have it. theres no getting around that kek. a lot of them never even get diagnosed because its in their garbage personality's nature to avoid self betterment.

No. 2948980>>2949250

>>2948974
I find it sad whenever young people (often teens who don't even qualify) think they have cluster b because they act a little violent and neurotic at times. To be fair in their defense, sources are all fucked up nowadays anyway. e.g. you have the ones who fake shit like apd because haha edgy psycho disorder but I've seen a few who fear they're one genuinely and that's why they fear the stigma
But like c'mon kiddo, it's diagnosed in violent juvie delinquents or like James Bulger's killers, not you. Your "lack of empathy" was just stealing $5 from your mom when you were 12, it's alright buddy
>its literally a personality disorder. you have to have an awful personality and be harmful to other people to have it.
Yeah it literally makes up who you are as a person. Or at least a majority of it. It's sad seeing people think they have one just because they exhibited one shitty symptom once. It's supposed to be exhibiting shitty symptoms 24/7

No. 2948989

>>2936722
My mom's cousin is one of these people kek she donates like 10K a year to this city church group thing and half the family preaches that we should be sympathetic and give her kindness and love but like, why bother at this point. This woman is in her fucking late 50s and used to work in the legal sector with her PhD. If that intelligence didn't save her then I really don't know what can. If she was freshly 18 getting recruited at a college campus preying on young people then yeah sure, but she's in her late 50s for god's sake. If she wants to squander 10K a year let her be

No. 2949250

>>2946384
>>2948963
They all think they're the most attractive person to ever walk the earth too kek, especially the bippie scrotes. Nothing riles them up faster than being ignored.
>>2948980
Sometimes I wanna play along with the self-diagnosed ASPD people and reply to them like "omg me too! How many childhood pets have you killed? Did you molest your classmates too?" but I resist the urge because that's mean, kek

No. 2949329>>2949725>>2950073

>>2948963
>pedophilia is not a mental disorder and is 99% of the time a conscious, voluntary CHOICE

I've been saying this for years and the proof is right under everyone's nose: when a bippie acts like a tard, their disorder keeps them from acting rationally, meaning they truly believe they're in the right and that's why is so hard to also escape their tacticts and the abuse could go on for years, meanwhile pedophiles know how they are in the wrong. Unless the pedophile is deeply disturbed and trying to claim that a little girl seduced him and is the exact same as an adult woman, like actual schizos or muslims do, the moment they get caught red handed they always lower their head and go "no no I wasn't doing that, no no, I swear" SO YOU KNOW! YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG! "nono, I would never!" you did! "No it was not me!" yes it was!
Being a pedophile is a choice and I'm sick of every uneducated fuck on the internet trying to say "we should let them heal and reducate them, since they have a disorder" no! They do not have a disorder, it's a choice! Either you make a conscious choice to be a pedo or you are a pedo because you know you wont face consequences, like in muslim countries and by definition, a disorder is something that disrupts the mind, if pedophilia was legal for 24 hours, we would have 24 hours of perfectly sane individuals touching kids. If the disease is society-made, it's not a disorder, it's barely a legal limit that people do not cross because they know of the consequences, sick people don't care at all, that's why bippies are so convinced that what they are doing is right, law or not.

No. 2949510

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My pedophile ex wore a blue hat, and my latest ex wears a blue hat, therefore he's probably also a pedophile. Nothing is ever my fault.

No. 2949725

>>2949329
Bippies also rely on plausible deniability. It's rare they actually touch a child irl but stuff like online grooming and inappropriate relationships with teens (or fans, if they have a fanbase) are very common with them

No. 2949755>>2949848>>2949933>>2950077>>2950733

Porn addiction.
Can someone genuinely explain why it is such a struggle and painful journey to some men kek… just put down the phone and drink some water and take a shower rather than "gooning" all day to underage anal gangbang porn in the dark and wondering why your mental health is beyond shit?
They talk about it like it's as grueling as getting a perfect score into med school or working 16 hours a day doing manual labor to feed a family of 15. Surely they're dramatically exaggerating? And don't forget their "inspiring stories" after kek
>you'll never watch porn again after hearing MY story
>how the porn industry preys on YOUR loneliness
>how porn destroyed my ability to love and socialise!
>how porn harms innocent teen boys
Maybe I'm being edgy, sure. But how the fuck does porn damage your ability to love and socialise. Grow the actual fuck up, how mentally out of it must you be. Even drooling crackheads can find their community kek. You saw some videos and now you suddenly have no friends? And not a single one of you is innocent. You searched that shit up. You could've closed the tab and thought ew that's gross or something but you didn't. And don't forget their holier-than-thou religionfagging once they decide they're so pathetic even they can't take it themselves.
I consider it a severe mental problem at least because therapyfags coddle it and it's listed under every sex therapist where I'm from's specialisations. Worse is that they also claim to be able to help with things that actually matter like sexual dysfunction from trauma, CSA etc. If I suffered those I would NOT trust to tell my story to some psych who tells their other clients it's okay that their dick no worky. But I'm just paranoid and evil and unempathetic I guess!

No. 2949848

>>2949755
Men like that have no souls and are retards with no self-control. The majority of men just exist to indulge in short-term pleasure. It is a failing of our society that these types of men just aren't sent out to do hard labor.

No. 2949933

All moids with any kind of mental disorder/disability should be exterminated. Low functioning autistic women should be put down simply because it's cruel to let them live like that, and the bipolar ones are incredibly demonic.

>>2949755
Kek it's so funny how porn addicted moids try to act like victims as if the women (and children) involved aren't going through it even worse. Idk faggot, how about closing the computer lid for once.

No. 2949961>>2949990

sometimes I wish I was a cluster b just because they get all the fucking therapy and support known to man. Idk if it's just where I'm from but I don't get why they whine that they have no help available. Every DBT/CBT opportunity is given to them (not that they ever take it, but still).

No. 2949990

>>2949961
they literally do not get all the therapy known to man lmao take it from me a person that kicked my clusterbee "friend" out of my life, in general, talk therapists have no idea how to handle them and will fire them en masse. DBT therapy programs sometimes require you to have a therapist in addition to their DBT services and you either have to pay out of pocket OR have a specific type of health insurance (NOT state insurance or Medicare if you're in the USA). People with BPD that are actually fucked and trying to fix themselves are FUCKED. And it's because most people are not qualified to handle that bullshit / do not want to focus all of their energy on one person when they could have ten million clients that just have GAD or depression and make more money and actually sleep at night

No. 2950073

>>2949329
>Unless the pedophile is deeply disturbed and trying to claim that a little girl seduced him and is the exact same as an adult woman, like actual schizos or muslims do, the moment they get caught red handed they always lower their head and go "no no I wasn't doing that, no no, I swear" SO YOU KNOW! YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG!
It's like the difference between criminals who can plead insanity and those who can't. There's a very clear distinction between a guy who kills someone in broad daylight because he can't comprehend that knives are pointy, and a guy who kills someone in his basement after planning how to get away with murder. They're both disturbed individuals, but society wants us to think they're interchangeable cases with the exact same mental affliction. That's basically how we're expected to treat pedos and their "urges."

No. 2950077

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>>2949755
>I stayed indoors and watched nothing but BBC gangbang porn for 5 months straight and now I have political schizophrenia, clearly I am a victim who was wronged by society

No. 2950450>>2952294

>"I was a victim of cluster B abuse"
>"Erhm achktually it's emotional abuse! If someone with cancer abused you you wouldn't call it cancer abuse, right?"

Why are them so allergic to accountability and how their disorder spreads, why do they always make examples with stuff that doesn't have a mental compound. yes, it's cluster B abuse. Cope.

No. 2950733>>2950983

>>2949755
>And don't forget their holier-than-thou religionfagging once they decide they're so pathetic even they can't take it themselves.
Yep, they just swing from one addiction to another. Christfags and Allahfags are absolutely retarded. If you're lurking in this thread, God isn't real and your ED will never be cured

No. 2950742>>2950760

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Self-haters/BDDfags and their bizarre hatred of positivity
>"Wahhh it's over for me, I'm so hideous! Can someone please tell me how to fix my flaws?"
>Clearly just looks like a normal person, they might even be cute
>"You look fine, OP, maybe if you exercise and eat healthier-"
>"WRONG! I'm the ugliest person to ever walk the planet and the only thing that will fix me is a $1000000 surgery to change my entire skeleton, you just won't say it because you're a LYING BITCH! How dare you ignore my negative canthal tilt, you whore?! Away with you! JAIL with you!! This is why I only take advice from good and honest people, like plastic surgeons and mentally ill men with jaw implants!"
>Hours of sperging about their elaborate plastic surgery plans
Like?? If you already "know" what's wrong with you and how to fix it, why tf are you even asking for my opinion?! Get fleeced then idiot idc. Are people really lying to spare your feelings, or is it just more comforting to believe that it's your maxilla driving potential partners away instead of your shit personality?

No. 2950760>>2950852>>2951211

>>2950742
I admittedly find it difficult to feel sorry for bddspergs. It's pretty narcissistic to blame 100% of your problems on your looks. Especially given that ugly, fat, disabled, and disfigured women fall in love and have fulfilling lives all the time. But yeah, I'm sure it's their nasolabial folds holding them back and not their utterly wretched attitudes. I feel the same way about anachans, their self-obsession and competitive vitriol is so embarrassing and immature. I'll never understand why they think hating themselves to the point of starvation is a flex.

No. 2950852>>2950980

>>2950760
Look I don't agree with bddfags either but…
>ugly, fat, disabled, and disfigured women fall in love
They may be in love but the guy doesn't love them back. Moids don't love any woman whether they're ugly or pretty, fat or skinny. Come on

No. 2950890

I can't really be friends with or stand other people with BPD despite having it myself. It's literally always either
>ackshully no one can blame me for anything or hold me accountable because it's all caused by my disorder!
or
>I'm so sorry for being alive, of course everything is my fault, I am such a wretched abusive cluster b, I cannot accept any kindness please let me kill myself
Like to be honest if you have BPD but are in treatment and are trying your best you are probably fine. If you aren't in treatment then go do that instead of self flagellating about how much you hate yourself. If you hurt someone then apologize and leave them alone. You don't have to pretend everything is not your fault or that everything is your fault. After finishing DBT I notice this behaviour more and more especially online and it's so annoying. BPD isn't no big deal but it also isn't a death sentence, go get treatment and stop making it your entire identity and watch how life improves for you!

No. 2950980>>2950984

>>2950852
she didn't say with moids

No. 2950983

>>2950733
>How god saved me from porn addiction
>How Allah saved me from the worst porn of my life
>Spirituality and my story with porn addiction
It's all a grift half the time but the ones who believe in it are crazy as hell. Honestly if you need religion to help you get over something that could've been gotten over with closing your damn laptop then idk what to say to you man

No. 2950984>>2951155

>>2950980
Most women are het and lesbians are the most critical of other women bodies(bait)

No. 2951155

>>2950984
>lesbians are the most critical of other womens bodies
I love when insecure straight women just make shit up for fun kek

No. 2951211>>2951224

>>2950760
The ugly thread be like kek. I haven't checked the latest one but the previous two were basically like that.
>"I'm so fat and ugly kill me"
>"I was once in your shoes with the same features and I know what it's like, your features are normal and you need to be kind to yourself first"
>"REEEEE KILL YOURSELF YOU FAT COW OF A WHORE I HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GET RAPED AND TORTURED BY FAGGOTS AND NIGGERS AND INDIANS"
Right it's your features and not your vile nasty attitude. The delusion is crazy like they think they were denied jobs or qualifications because their canthal tilt is 0.5mm lesser than the Hollywood standard rather than the fact they're just retarded (because all they do is obsess over looks, kek)

No. 2951224>>2952860

>>2951211
Oh the latest one is bad. I don't use the thread but I saw it being discussed and peeked in. It was so retarded I actually had to make a post, but I should have known they'd just ignore it. Sperging about an "8 figure" compared to "hourglass" figures…. the regular population would never differentiate the 2 body shapes, they literally look the same and only someone with the neurotic body dysmorphia would be able to see the imaginary difference between the two.

No. 2952142>>2953778

I can't stand people who can't brush their teeth or take a shower and ree about "muh depression" anymore.
>depression makes people kill themselves too!
>where's ur ehmpahfeeee
Yeah cool, now get in the shower smelly. Ironically I used to be really sympathetic to these types but after dealing with a few personally I can't handle their victim complexes and how they make things everyone else's fault. They act like the simple advice that taking one small step will make things better is some evil ableist bullying abuse. If you live alone then I can't say anything but if you live with family and friends you have a basic societal duty to not waste their space

No. 2952294

>>2950450
I fucking hate this logical fallacy. Yeah, no shit I would not call it cancer abuse because cancer is not an inherently abusive thing meanwhile Cluster B definitely is. It's a personality disorder aka quite literally affects the majority of a person's behavior and hence is clearly, directly linked to the flavor of abuse they throw out.

No. 2952784

I think my friend has Munchausen by proxy, but I really can’t stand her mom because of it. Her mom has gotten her into “alternative medicine” for years now and yet no progress seems to be made. My friend still has never had a full time job. She still lives at home with her parents. She’s too “fatigued” to do anything but watch tv and eat so she’s obese with no life. It’s just sad to see what she’s become because of her mom. I suspect her mom wants her to keep her around and that they have an extremely codependent relationship. But at a certain age, it just starts being pathetic. I’m not sure how much longer I’ll be able to stick by this friend as she lags further and further behind while fucking up her body even more with experimental “treatments”

No. 2952860

>>2951224
Its so retarded an 8 figure is just another way of calling an hourglass. My steak too juicy, my lobster too buttery ass complain

No. 2953663>>3018718

Parents with severe eating disorders should have their kids taken away from them. Don't care if that's mean or rude to their struggles. Those kids will be constantly shamed, projected onto, develop said disorders themselves. People forget they are socially contagious by default and extremely competitive and that pushed onto an impressionable kid is even worse.

No. 2953778

>>2952142
I admittedly catch myself falling into these bad depressive habits sometimes, but I don't understand the peoplw who go online and argue that it's nbd/they should be able to do what they like without criticism. Why even argue over your "right" to not take a bath, are you not embarrassed kek

No. 2957725

Someone has been annoying me with her weaponized AuDHD and I just found out she doesn’t even have it. No official diagnosis but it’s just her self diagnosis to justify her shit behavior and lack of accountability whenever I call her out for it.

Why am I not surprised

No. 2960526>>2960563

I find it really sad and pathetic when autists cape for ASPDfags. They would never ever do the same for you and look down on you too by the way.
Their main talking point is that they sympathise with ASPDfags for suffering from lack of empathy. Sigh. ASPDfags do not "suffer" from theirs.
And there's a stark difference too, average autist lack of empathy = confusion on how to react when someone expresses an emotion and making the interaction awkward and cringe as shit. Meanwhile average ASPDfag lack of empathy = beating friends, family, kids, raping and murdering, stealing and robbing and arson, criminal record since youth is a literal prerequisite, often sexual abuse against children too.
I don't know, there seems to be a little difference there dontcha think?

No. 2960563>>2960618>>2960684

>>2960526
there are several ASPDs that aren't out there being violent but thrive on manipulating people for their own gain. so even the non offending ASPDs are not trustworthy, because you never know if they are going to backstab you for whatever reason and treat every relationship as strictly transactional. I personally think men (especially CEO and techbro types) aren't diagnosed enough with ASPD. being a misogynist and treating women as subhuman should be enough to diagnose one as such because it shows a clear lack of empathy towards a fellow human. the amount of men I know that treat their marriage/relationships with women in general like a work contract they benefit from as an employer is way too much.

No. 2960618>>2960684>>2960818

>>2960563
That's NPD. CEOs, techbros, etc. are NPD. ASPDfags wouldn't give a shit about going into such high positions because of the responsibility and work. Narcissists will endure work and study to craft their beautiful beloved image. ASPDfags are also not found in high achieving roles because of their low intelligence and anhedonia, they can't hold jobs due to their impulsivity which is a key diagnostic factor and I doubt they'd work for qualifications. The violent junkie downtown street is more likely to be ASPD than your average CEO

No. 2960684>>2960685

>>2960563
bc as nona said it requires a criminal history and they never face police action because of their family backgrounds. Tech was the biggest meritocracy psyop of recent times.
>>2960618
Again, if they're born into wealth they stay there as CEOS, it's very well documented that CEOs are over-represented in psychopathy.

No. 2960685

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>>2960684
the grandfather of psychopathology and author of the diagnostic checklist, Robert Hare, literally wrote a whole book about this.

No. 2960784>>2960931

I don't know if this is BPD or good old fashioned boundary issues, but I can't stand whatever it is that makes a grown woman hijack a conversation between a nona and her mother to talk about her abuser husband and miscarriage from multiple decades ago. For reference, she only met anon's mom less than two hours before this conversation and mom did not appear impressed by the oversharing.

No. 2960818>>2960839

>>2960618
I like your subtle glazing of CEOs and techbros because you secretly think NPD is a more flattering diagnosis. Now I wonder why that would be?

No. 2960839>>2960905

>>2960818
Go back to tiktok schizo

No. 2960905

>>2960839
Uh-oh, watch out! The narc is wounded

No. 2960931>>2960938

>>2960784
she wanted your mom to mother her and didn't realise that's not a thing

No. 2960938>>2960957

>>2960931
Ew, gross. She is older than my mother for chrissake.

No. 2960957

>>2960938
mother / father issues never heal because it is basically impossible to find an actual replacement, as you get older you realise everyone is still young inside

No. 2961007>>2961386

People who procreate with an age gap of 10 years and up. It's always such a freaky dynamic (older woman with a younger man typically yields a mommy/son relationship [because males are males] whereas an older male with younger woman yields an even more fucked up dynamic of a father/daughter relationship where the daughterwife is also the mommyhandler of the older male), like no matter what. I think it's possible for a couple with an age gap of around a decade to be very close to the same level, but the people who can make it work still have weird things kind of off about them (like the older person typically comes off as a weird man/womanchild and the younger person typically comes off as kind of "empty" and serious). When you think about it, age gap relationships of over a decade are basically two people with a giant, obvious lack of something moreso than the average person who seemingly need someone older/younger attached to them to function. That is literally how every single relationship like that comes off, even the "normal" ones that "work". Like you cannot be 100% mentally sound in a relationship like that. I speak from experience as someone who has parents with a 16 year age gap. That shit is so weird.

No. 2961386

>>2961007
You gotta be mentally stunted to be in a huge age gap relationship. The fact they vehemently defend their crap with reeeee it's trve wuv says enough about how neurotic they are. The older party almost always cannot find someone their age and that is never a good thing. The younger party tends to have low self esteem or is rather daft and easy pickings. Even in a mommy/son kind of dynamic, it's clear neither are really mentally secure and are using it to cope with some shit which isn't healthy for a relationship

No. 2962807>>2962821

Being cyberstalked by a bippie is the fucking worst. Tried ignoring her and she's still seething about me. My only hope is that she finds someone else to project all her hatred and bitterness onto. Bippies are genuine fucking nightmares to deal with. They are particularly obsessive and will drag out a grudge for years on end.

No. 2962821>>2962872

>>2962807
What did you do to her

No. 2962872>>2963534

>>2962821
We had a quarrel two years ago over her ghosting me. That's it. That's how fucking bad BPDemons are.

No. 2963461>>2963505

Idk if it even counts as a legit condition but "sex addiction". Get over it? I get being depressed and masturbating for a lick of pleasure or something but "sex addicts" describe their condition as bad as being addicted to ten drugs at once and like a serious pain.
Maybe I'm tinfoiling but it just seems like a lie/guilt trip/excuse for them to be creepy rapists

No. 2963505

>>2963461
It never escapes my notice that so-called "sex addicts" are mostly male.

No. 2963508

I've known 3 people with assurance seeking ocd and one is an ex girlfriend and holy fuck I just can't do it anymore if I meet one again I think I'm just going to snip the friendship in the bud I just can't stand a billion messages asking me to assure them I still like them or whatever because after a while I really really don't. Especially if they tell me I shouldn't affirm them because they need to learn to live with the ambiguity but then get mad at me when I respect that and ignore the reassurance requests. That and moral ocd people online who don't recognize their disfunction and demand other people also follow their rules which really aren't good morals half the time

No. 2963534

>>2962872
Two years is nothing. Jk but the one I know is still obsessed after a decade. I don't get the stereotype of them discarding and forgetting. They can whore around for the dopamine sure but they never forget and will stalk you to the ends of the earth if they have the chance

No. 2967774>>2972311

Isn't this the most normie shit ever? Doesn't everyone want a partner they can feel safe and entertained around?
IME most "audhd" labelers have neither of them. At least labelers of one of them tend to be telling the truth.

No. 2969234>>2969276>>2969342

I functionally can't tell the difference between bdd and npd.
Every bddchan I've seen always dreams of becoming famous for some reason, admits to being addicted to attention, dreams of landing jobs like pop star or actor or some type of content creator (not saying those jobs are inherently narcissistic alone but it's a factor when considering symptoms) with zero talent. And then you look at their personalities and it all clicks together.
And they're always like well uhm there's no way we could be narcissists because we hate ourselves!1! Like the whole root of narcissism is that they hate themselves and have poor self esteem and have to act like absolute cunts to everyone because of it. They're always so nasty towards random women's bodies and features too and sometimes go as far as nitpicking kids.
On that topic covert/"collapsed" narcissists are just as bad as grandiose ones imo, covert ones act like they're sooper smart and self aware because they keep it "inside". It still leaks out kek. You're not any better just because you had a mental breakdown realising you're not hot shit for once.

No. 2969276>>2969342

>>2969234
It inherently takes a certain level of narcissism to obsess over your own/other people's appearance, even if you DO hate yourself. It's why a lot of people with eating disorders have similar vindictive traits. Speaking of ED-havers, it's annoying how they all come out of the woodwork to cry that they're being boolied and pull the ableism card whenever they aren't coddled online. It doesn't take a genius to see that anachans are generally toxic, nasty, racist and misognyistic despite their wounded baby deer LARPing kek. They're the prime example of people who talk shit all day long but break down at the slightest retaliation.

No. 2969342>>2969411>>2974842

>>2969234
I can't either and it annoys me when people on here act like they're so different because I've never seen an actual explanation how. And I've met diagnosed BPDs and one NPD in the wild, they didn't seem that different to me. BPDs insist they're a victim and the NPD kept insisting that everyone else views themselves as a victim these days and needs to get over themselves (implied: unlike me, the real suffering hero). All of them were self-obsessed cruel skin walkers.
>>2969276
Yeah ana-chans are wannabe school bullies who don't have the social skills to pull it off.

No. 2969411>>2969433

>>2969342
First ayrt, I said bdd not bpd. Bpd and npd are pretty easy to distinguish imo

No. 2969433

>>2969411
in what way? the people I've met irl didn't act that different so unless the npd woman was misdiagnosed idgi

No. 2972311

>>2967774
It's funny when people with ADHD (or people "with" "ADHD") act as if they're superhumans looking down on the plebs. My guy, you just impulsively spent $500 on a shitty prize figure and your house is such a mess that the roaches are effectively your landlords now, what do you mean you're naturally more intelligent KEK. That "you people can't do anything" tweet became a meme for a goddamn reason! It's also funny when they have barely disguised contempt for autistic people, despite the fact half of them LARP that condition too.

No. 2974762

I grew up with an insane NPD moid for a father and was semi-recently almost romantically involved with a moid just like him and it's left me devastated. My father died a few years ago and internally I have this severe dissonance of being happy he's gone while also feeling completely purposeless in life. My whole purpose was to keep him alive and I failed. I felt very empty with him gone. Met this new moid, he and I instantly clicked but I just knew something was deeply wrong with him. There are so many little tells that he was very intensely studying me, way more than the other women he kept around, but I could not say anything without sounding completely psycho. He and I do not live in the same country anymore but I still stalk his socials and I see signs that he is keeping tabs on me as well. Sometimes it feels like we're communicating in the most mentally ill way possible. I know it's pathetic and insane but I have never met someone else I could be all sides of myself with. He and I never got physical and never even went on a date. I blocked him with no notice as I could tell he was triangulating me with other women, just like my dad used to do with other girls. I really think he's doing it again now but in this weird digital way with a mutual acquaitance even though we haven't seen each other in a year. I know it's unhealthy but thinking that a man just like my father is obsessed with me fills that wound in such a perfect way it's so hard to let go. Sorry this is very bloggy I just feel insane but after growing up with a father like this being able to see this patterns so clearly and early on while the rest of the world is blind to them makes you feel genuinely insane. After I blocked him this moid completely ruined my reputation in the program we were in and I ended up not going back to that school completely I was so hurt. I just want to know I'm not crazy.

No. 2974842

>>2969342
People with npd often claim bpd because it's more digestible and for pity seeking than proclaiming they are narcissists. They also use it as ab excuse to act out because it's easier to say it was a bpd for sympathy as most people's pity for narcs is pretty low

No. 2975702

ADHD is basically memed and diagnosed in anyone who's a little lazy now but an actual ADHD person is unbearable. They're the kind of partner who, when you need emotional support, listen to you for 10 seconds and then suddenly just get up and go look at the stars and then turn to video games and then wonder why you're hurt. The roommate who will turn on the stove and then go grab ingredients and then suddenly feel the need to go elsewhere to load their laundry and do it halfway before going out on a walk and then boom you have a house fire. Living with them on a regular basis and giving them the responsibility of keeping the house in check is a fucking danger.
There needs to be a study on their impulsivity and crime rates too, I genuinely do believe there is a correlation between ADHD (in men at least) and antisocial/conduct traits. Stuff like kleptomania and pyromania is common with them.

No. 2977306

Hate when autists act as if ASD is a prerequisite for everything. I get understandable stuff like growing up autistic as a woman can be traumatising but you have idiots acting as if you can't have stuff like HEDS, POTS, and other completely different physical disorders if you're not autistic. Like where's the correlation whatsoever

No. 2977333>>2977357>>2978001>>2978301>>2983372

I know it's not really a mental disorder but I'm so tired of autistic people, they are some of the most self centered people on the planet. I swear half of their problems could be solved if they just learned to realize other people also have feelings like they do.

My sister, who is 6 years older than I, started having really bad mental issues around the time she hit puberty where she'd just scream and cry and basically throw tempter tantrums and usually say she wanted to die and threaten to kill herself, one time she kicked a hole in the wall. She did that well into her 20's. There was a time in my early teens when she would literally just cry and wail day in and day out and you'd hear her all throughout the house. I honestly felt awful that I couldn't do anything, even though I was younger than her, but there was nothing anyone could do because she just "felt awful" and there wasn't really a fix for it. I remember seeing one time how she posted online how she was "being annoyed by everyone" and listed me as one of the people who was annoying her. Oh yeah because your screaming and crying all day and threatening to kill yourself totally has no affect on other people whatsoever right. Like wtf did I even do to annoy her, exist? My parents got her to go to therapy in her late teens or early 20s (I didn't learn this until later but apparently they thought of taking her to a therapist earlier on but someone discouraged them from doing it because they said it was just "teenage hormones").

She has been a NEET for almost all her life, except when she briefly went to beauty school and worked at great clips, but that only last 2-3 years on and off, all the other work she does is commissions because she's an artist, but even that is really inconsistent. When she was in her late 20s she really wanted a dog and our dad didn't want to let her get one, so apparently she screamed and they had a huge fight and she threatened to go out and get pregnant (I wasn't there when this happened). She ended up getting the dog. She has never had to actually work for anything.

She went to a whole bunch of different therapists over the years and got misdiagnosed with a bunch of things like bipolar disorder, BPD, OCD and some other stuff. Then she got diagnosed with autism (twice) and then got diagnosed with the neuropsych test which is extremely thorough. I strongly theorized for a long time that she had BPD. My therapist told me that autism (even in men) gets misdiagnosed as narcissism and vise versa because it's so hard to tell the difference in some people and that the affects of being raised by a narcissist and being raised by an autist are usually the same. My therapist also said it's a somewhat common dynamic for the older sibling to throw a bunch of tempter tantrums and the younger kid ends up getting neglected because of it.

I remember back when I was like 20 I thought I might have autism (I don't have it, though I definitely have some of the traits like being a supertaster but not enough to be autistic) but I thought "that sounds like my dad". Well now that my sister is diagnosed, I'm realizing my dad is 100000% autistic, even more than I previously thought and it's making me understand so much. I'm not gonna get into it but he's a total manchild about a whole bunch of stuff, especially food. He's extremely rigid in what he can talk about, is not willing to talk to me at all about any of my interests that don't directly align with his and will just stare into space when I'm talking. So many other things I could say about my dad, but this is already too long. My ex also turned out to be autistic, but didn't tell me until we broke up. Just imagine all of the shitty things about dating a normal moid, then put it on steroids, that's what autistic men are like.

My sister has turned being autistic into her whole personality now and everything she does she acts like she does it because she's autistic. One thing that pisses me off about autists is how they always complain about "neurotypicals" like they're a hivemind, and "I hate when NTs do xyz" when it's a bunch of shit that autistic people have done to me!! Also "NTs" can be horrible people, good people, mentally ill, undiagnosed autists etc. They're not all clones of each other. Also people always feel so bad for austists like they're a bunch of helpless babies who are in a constant state of suffering when in reality a lot of them are the biggest assholes on earth. It also doesn't help that being autistic is basically a free pass to be an asshole. And then they whine about people infantilizing them as if they don't infantilize themselves.

My sister acts like her problems are worse than everyone else's, even though I also had really bad mental issues and still do. Like she acts like she can't work because of her social anxiety, even though my social anxiety was as bad as hers but I HAD to work because my parents wouldn't coddle me the way they coddled her. I also got sexually harassed constantly as a teenager and was groomed and still never told anyone because I feel bad putting my problems on other people, but she thinks it's just because I don't have any. There's so much more I could say, but yeah, that's my rant.

No. 2977357

>>2977333
It must really suck growing up with special needs siblings. I feel like most parents are already a bit shitty and neglectful so to have that x5 because your sibling always takes up 100% of the mental energy in the household must lead to you basically parenting yourself for the majority of your life. I don't have much else to say other than I hope you find the peace you need and to get away from people like that who are so suffocating that they take up all the energy in the room. You need to find your own space where you can grow and thrive with people who care about you and focus on your needs and wants.

No. 2977485

Male "looksmaxxer" body dysmorphia. I'll take a thousand neurotic anachans before dealing with this crap.

No. 2978001>>2978301

>>2977333
Having an autistic dad sounds like a nightmare holy shit. Also it's one thing if you're autistic and are able to mask/live a functioning life but the ones who act like they're enlightened and superior to neurotypicals only remind me of why ableism was the norm back then, and these types also tend to be borderline neets with super juvenile/useless hobbies. They always think that neurotypicals are all evil normie npcs who are secretly plotting against them when they're really just reacting the way anyone else would to their odd and uncanny mannerisms. It's funny how they complain about them being hiveminded when a good chunk of autists are essentially the same especially with their black and white thinking, it's why so many of them troon out or get suckered into extreme ideologies like online naziism. I also find it ironic how they accuse neurotypical people of lacking empathy as if that isn't something autists aren't infamous for, and a lot of them are incredibly narcissistic too.

No. 2978301

>>2977333
>>2978001
Tangentially related, but I can’t deal with whatever mental illness that leads to people who don’t have autism to self diagnose themselves so that they can be unmitigated assholes and/or be a special unique asshole and not like the other “Neuro typicals”.

As far as I’m concerned, if you can function in society in any capacity, you are within the neuro typical group. People who are not neurotypical wouldn’t be able to understand what that means anyway.

No. 2983372>>2985266

>>2977333
>not really a mental disorder
I don't give a flying fuck how much autists try to pretend otherwise, it absolutely is one. It causes disruptions in the lives of those around them.
The parallels between autism and narcissism is so scarily accurate. I never thought if it, but now I can't unsee it. They're narcissists that have a social barrier around them that doesn't allow you to challenge anything they say. I'd made it my mission to tell them that I don't fucking care if they have autism just like their autism doesn't allow them to care about whatever I'm struggling with. Wouldn't that level the playing field? Apathy for apathy, it'd be no different for them if they were talking to another autist, no? If they can "mask" to LARP as if they're functioning, then I can pretend that their little scapegoat usage of their handicap that makes them untouchable isn't working.

No. 2983661>>2985201>>3001254

I've never met a bippie who wasn't either racist as fuck or sexist (if a man).
It's the black and white thinking, it's not just an autistic thing. It's common knowledge bippies have that too and while the motivations are a little different, it leads to the same shit.

No. 2984536

Anachanning is inherently misogynistic and nlog behavior.
I'd get it if it was a groomed kid because their motivations are different but being a fully grown adult is genuinely embarrassing

No. 2985176

I spent a year researching bpd so I could hurt one in my life and I did. I purposely researched what makes them flip out or spiral down in their depressive episodes and I used all of that against me. For months my algo believed I was a bippie looking for support so I listened and read about poor bippies venting on forums or youtube saying that for them not getting a text back in exactly one hour and 5 minutes makes them want to kill themselves and took notes.
No I'm not proud nor I would waste anymore time like this but I'm tired that I should be the "mature one" for letting the worst shit happen to me because they cannot held accountable due to their shitty person disorder. I hate how ignoring and closing your eyes at any abuse is being seen as mature and any kind of biting back or revenge is being seen a childish like? Why should bippies walk away? That's exactly why they are bippies and never get a wake up call. If no one is there to whoop their ass because "they're sick" they will go further and further in their abuse because they think they're immune to any kind of consequence. Fuck that shit. I'm glad that the piece of shit that made up stuff about me and sexually assaulted me is crying all night because I blocked him on social media. Yes, that's all it took. Useless people.

No. 2985201>>2985265>>2985293>>2986331

>>2983661
my ex was BPD diagnosed and he wasn't racist, he would cheat on me with every race

No. 2985265

>>2985201
moids can be racist and still want to fuck non-white women. I'm surprised you've had any contact with men and not realised that they can hate women and want to fuck them.

No. 2985266>>2985829

>>2983372
>I don't give a flying fuck how much autists try to pretend otherwise, it absolutely is one. It causes disruptions in the lives of those around them.
because it's a developmental disability

No. 2985293

>>2985201
You're kidding right, racism is a dozen times more complex than wanting to fuck women (who are undoubtedly probably a fetish to them anyway)

No. 2985829>>2986274>>2986285

>>2985266
Aren't there some that argue it's just a "different way of mental wiring and isn't a disability either"? Looking it up has it mentioned several different ways (though I'm guessing the abbreviation ASD puts that to rest with Autism Spectrum DISORDER but what do I know).

No. 2986176

One aspect of bippies that's not talked enough is the infamous lack of sense of self. What does that mean you may ask? Because no, that's not your old "baww idk who I am!!" it's the fact that they're extremely influenced by the new shiny thing around them and they're so bold about making lies when they rebrand.
Lack of sense of self means they are literally a new person everything the waves flow in a direction they like and this means
>Your friend would be not your friend anymore
Imagine clicking with someone over a shared interest or shared views, anything really then they start flipping them inside out and suddenly you have nothing to share anymore. Sure, people can mature and grow up but they never mature and grow up, that's part of their disorder, they could wake up and snap out of their current phase and search another. Changing interests is cool but they change their whole person around it as if they cannot disconnect their person from the thing that interests them.
>They act like their previous self never existed
"Oh I love this!" "Bippie, yesterday you hated this!" "No, I ALWAYS loved this! What are you saying!" yeah, that's because Today Bippie is a different person from Yesterday Bippie so in their mind, it makes sense. I can make a couple of examples of two bippies in my life who trooned out and said shit like "I was suffering for 10 years, now I am who truly I always was!" meanwhile I was there for even more than ten years and they were absolutely normal people who even made fun of troons and when I tried to tiptoe around it by saying "well i never thought about it" they spew some shit like "Yeah I was good at hiding it!" and now they act like gendie retards and their mind has been absorbed by troonology but before troonology it was anime, cosplay, music, technology, fashion, psychology, celebrity obsessions and so on.
>New partner means new personality
Ever noticed how they are so desperate for identity and attention that either they skinwalk their partners or craft themselves around them? Creepy.
I could never be friends with someone that I might know one day and the other changes and if you were friends with a bippie during the DID tiktok craze of covid times, you would know how bad it was and still is. Their story rewriting and rebranding irritates me.

No. 2986274

>>2985829
autists have definitely said that but it is obviously cope.

No. 2986285>>2986963

>>2985829
yes there are, i think most of the people who are arguing that are people like courny though, not the low functioning/high support needs autists or the people who care for them. honestly we'd probably be better off if there were still other classifications like aspergers rather than lumping in people who can mostly function as adults while having severe sensory issues with people who will likely never live independently or learn to 'mask' because they're so profoundly autistic.

No. 2986308

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competitive anachans. I feel for amas who don't eat because denying food is punishment for them/a side effect of being depressed or whatever, but I just can't stand the competitive ones that seek out fat women so they look skinny and feel threatened by everyone trying to lose weight in a healthy way. it's the ultimate pick me behavior. at some point your stupid fucking brain has to mature and you gotta realize that being skinny just isn't this dann important.

No. 2986331

>>2985201
idk it seems pretty racist to me to fuck someone thinking of them as disposable sex fodder, especially while holding onto a "main" of the same race. pretty sure most racist moids all have asian or latina fetishes bexause of this, it's like another layer on top of the obvious misogyny.

No. 2986963>>2987016>>2987418

>>2986285
Honestly, I think people who think they can "mask" are just autists who are too dumb to realize that most people are socially obligated to not just shout "dude what the fuck is wrong with you". Any time I see autists mentioning about how they aren't clockable, I just keep thinking back to how at my workplaces over the years, there was always that one weirdo nobody was allowed to dodge because it'd be socially unacceptable.

No. 2987016>>2987030

>>2986963
there was an article that made the rounds on twitter that talked about how people immediately clock autists. most people aren't as tuned in so they just clock that they are different/weird somehow and that's why they treat them/us differently. it's sad sometimes but that's just how it is. and I can't fault them tbh, I also clock other autists immediately and yeah, some off them piss me off. the funniest are terminally online people who think they are autistic but I don't clock them as such. it's interesting watching them seek out a diagnosis only to be told that they aren't autistic.

No. 2987030>>2987037

>>2987016
It's amazing because I can't always clock other autists in the streets, but I can immediately clock when someone isn't autistic after they tell me they are autistic. There's just something about the way that fakers disclose it that gives it away? But I'm too socially retarded to know what that je ne sais quoi is.

No. 2987037>>2987056

>>2987030
Honestly besides their normie eyes and normie voice giving it away, it's the fact that they mention they're autistic in the first place. The overwhelming majority of high functioning autists just want to blend in, and have been burned in the past by sharing their diagnosis and immediately getting treated like a drooling retard by their coworkers. Walking up to someone and bragging about how autistic you are is peak poser behavior kek

No. 2987056

>>2987037
Oh, you're right. Most of the time I don't tell anyone, or I'll make an offhand joke that I was "hit with the autism stick a bit too hard as a kid" and that's enough to get people to just nod and go along with it instead of ask a bunch of awkward follow-up questions or engage in the retard treatment. Making a big deal out of it and "coming out" to others is only developmentally appropriate for newly diagnosed children.

No. 2987418

>>2986963
>Honestly, I think people who think they can "mask" are just autists who are too dumb to realize that most people are socially obligated to not just shout "dude what the fuck is wrong with you".
Masking was such a specific thing used to describe what young girls with aspergers syndrome (so what is now considered the high functioning end of autism) did to fit in with peers but now social media has turned it into something completely different and everyone thinks they're masking and on purpose

No. 2988092>>2990723

Histrionics really confuse me because they love the negative attention equally as positive attention. Like positive attention is understandable, getting praised on your skills or work or appearanace is cool? But why do you want to bathe in hatred and people sending threats and the like?

No. 2990307

Got recommended a bunch of BPD defense videos at once today. This one is so infuriating and infantilizing. "Duck not abusive duck trying duck learning" bitch stfu "duck" FREQUENTLY is abusive. They paint bpds like widdle babies that should be coddled, I even dare say this video is trying to shame victims into forcing themselves to stay in a bpdemons life and give them what they want because "they're tryiiiiing they have big feeeeeeelings" SHUT UP. Bpdemons don't need any more coddling!

No. 2990374>>2990376>>2990380>>2990387>>2990522>>2990723>>2990726>>2991441

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Anachans. Misogynistic pick-me demons who sperg out at women for being over BMI 12 and try to make them feel just as bad about our bodies as they are, all while infantilizing themselves/doing the "I'm just a tragic, sweet princess only hurting myself in my honorable pursuit of perfection" schtick and post things like picrel. Bunch of schoolyard bullies.

No. 2990376

>>2990374
It's pretty funny that their only insult is chanting "fattie" over and over again. Do they know that word doesn't mean anything to normal people who don't starve themselves? Fucking kek

No. 2990380

>>2990374
I got bullied so hard in my MA program and I'm convinced it was because they were all rickety anachans malding over the girls who could finish their lunch kek.

No. 2990387>>2990522

>>2990374
fun fact, starving yourself can cause the fats in your brain to literally be eaten.

No. 2990522

>>2990374
Anachanning/BDD should be classified as some subset of NPD because of the way they treat others, it's nasty as hell.
>>2990387
As if they have any calories to think critically, it's always the people dumb as rocks

No. 2990706

BPDchans, especially when everyone loves them and you're the only one who can see how empty and soulless they are. I knew one who everyone loved but she was so desperate to be liked every conversation with her was just telling you everything you wanted to hear. That whole group was full of sheltered retards and seeing her suck up to everyone constantly was really pathetic. She is very two-faced and would pretend to be your best friend while simultaneously getting super pissy of another girl was doing well. Like of course she's super nice to you, you don't threaten her at all KEK.

No. 2990723

>>2988092
They are mentally ill and the only thing they crave is attention. Like a binge eater who is so deep in their ED that they eat food out the trash, because they just need to cram food in their face, knowing it's disgusting and feeling sick at themselves but they can't help it. I'm sure they hate themselves for the negative attention they get, but their brains seek attention, and ragebait gets more views than achievements. If they're in an environment where positive attention is more easily achieved, like at school in the pre-internet era, they'd probably fake an illness or take up a hobby that put them in the limelight to increase the amount of attention they got, they wouldn't just work hard to be the best.
>>2990374
Anachans take their self loathing out on other women and delight in dragging others into the same mental illness crab bucket that they're stuck in. It's a tragic condition that unfortunately ends in death a lot of the time but they make it really hard to feel bad for them. If they only hurt themselves, they wouldn't go out of their way to bully other women, or guilt trip their families into letting them have their phones while in treatment, or manipulate anyone they interact with into enabling their delusions. There's no winning with anachans. If you tell them they're fat, they starve more. If you tell them they're thin, they lash out. If you ignore them they have meltdowns and if you pay attention to them they get worse to capitalize on the attention. I remember one anon on here saying that she put butter or oil in her anachan roommate's homemade zero cal cooking spray and it made her gain weight, honestly that might be the only way to deal with them since the more weight they lose the crazier they get.
It's like BDD. It's hard to care about some lunatic sperging that they lost their job because muh ugly stupid fat fat fat retard (insert ethnicity here) ugly left nostril. Yeah, I'm sure that turning up late three days in a row had nothing to do with it.

No. 2990726

>>2990374
They won't admit it but half of them starve for their moids. Again, mega pickmes

No. 2991441

>>2990374
I do feel bad for them, but only because I cannot understand it at all. Sometimes I wonder if they just have slow metabolisms. My metabolism is insane, I love dancing and running and sprinting and doing lunges and deadlifts and pushups. If I wasn't eating all the time I'd wind up in the ER lol. I also just don't care about being skinny. I look down at my chubby body and I'm like "Yup still good." I just don't care what I look like as long as everything is intact and I feel great. And the ones who do it for their moids confuse me even more. There's stuff to do and you just don't need energy? Do you not DO stuff? You trust your moid to do everything? You don't clean, cook, work, anything? JUST EAT. Make a goddamned sandwich, not for your moid but for yourself.

No. 2992322>>2992328>>2992375>>2992717

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Cluster B women are to be avoided and ignored and not given a crumb of an inch, but when it comes to cluster B scrotes I genuinely believe they need their asses whooped, especially of they're the violent kind of abusive (all cluster B people being abusive by default). These guys need to learn. Bring back sticks that were used to whack students in the past and use them on cluster B scrotes when they act up, kek. But jokes aside, I firmly believe that if a woman who got hit by a cluster B scrote would beat his ass back before leaving him he wouldn't try it with another woman in the future.
>>2909813
As a diagnosed PTSD-fag, I wholeheartedly agree. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger boo!" No the fuck it doesn't, it just fucks you up mentally and makes you weaker.

No. 2992328

>>2992322
ptsd made it so if i get a certain level of stressed or hyper vigilant i can end up triggering an episode where i pass out and most of the time ill know it’s nothing and stupid and be yelling at myself in my head as i’m going down. it’s a nervous system disorder and if you have it, you’re having symptoms of that. people who don’t have ptsd do not understand the condition at all and it drives me nuts too. most everyone i’ve known with it wasn’t whiny or self righteous but hypersensitive and hyper vigilant. it’s the same with people faking autism to be quirky while insulting people who have legitimate issues as if they’re not trying. they don’t have the condition, want weird clout and attention from having it and then start turning on the people who really do have it to rub salt in the wound and raise themselves up further.

No. 2992375

>>2992322
all cluster b men are pedophiles as well

No. 2992397>>2992413

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I just learned that “sociopathy” isn’t an actually thing in the DSM-5 and is just a colloquial term popularized by movies. Keep this in mind if you ever see some edgelord claim to have been diagnosed with it because they are 100% lying

No. 2992413>>2992426

>>2992397
I already knew this, they're all over Quora.

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>>2992413
Lmao for real. It didn’t take long for me to find this when searching quora.
Someone tell her that a “real sociopath” or psychopath wouldn’t be having empathy exceptions for animals.
>THE GROWN MEN GETTING HURT DIDN’T BOTHER ME BUT THE BABY MONKEYS DID!!!
I hate people who think they are special kek. Most people would be more upset by something fragile and innocent being killed than they would for a grown man.
The last paragraph was 100% made up lmao
>I've watched 2 guys on the brink of death in my life & felt nothing. No need to run over & help. No need to comfort them until help arrives. I called 911 for one guy, waited until they arrived, asked the cops if it's cool if I go home because I was tired and then left.
Sure jan.

No. 2992429>>2992432>>2992658>>2992722>>3006089

>>2992426
Kinda ot, but why do so many gore watchers claim they can stomach humans (sometimes including children) being killed, but never animals?

No. 2992432

>>2992429
My guess is that they were boolied and now hate humanity

No. 2992658

>>2992429
unironically autism

No. 2992710

Every time I complain about autism ITT, other crawl out to defend it. What an odd phenomenon.

No. 2992717>>2992762

>>2992322
Not only I was in a relationship with a pedophile cluster b man (we were young when we were dating, around the same age but I was younger and when we broke up he went fetching girls that were my same age when we started dating years and years prior, so no, I didn't realize it until we broke up, no signs), not only I am of course an evil bitch that I left him during a delicate period in his life, he also did actual devilish things just to get the high to be in control.
Of course I am a woman and of course I am traumatized by men but when you're young you can't really pinpoint why, right? That's why many teens seems fine when they come from abuse only to completely crumble in their adulthood, I was a victim of sexual abuse and abused by a man in my childhood that basically projected all of his shit onto me, like he was that type of men that come home drunk because they had a fight with coworkers and take it out to wife and kids because they're pieces of shit, ok, sorry for the small digression but I had to give context, you know what my piece of shit ex did?
Knowing well I had sleeping problems due to anxiety, he woke me up to fight during the night. Yes, he did that. But subtly, of course, he would sit up in the bed and sigh until I woke up and so fights happened.
During the day? If I was out for groceries and work he would randomly text me my name and after 20 minutes "we need to talk". The talk being either something stupid like "omg I saw this new couch we could get!" or stuff like "Why am I wasting my life with you?" so I never knew what was coming and felt sick during the day and dreaded to come home, the only safe place. Imagine hating your home.
He had a weird fascination for mental illnesses, of course because he wanted attention, so he studied mine and mirrored me. This was the breaking point: of course I had to unpack my childhood abuse and when I came home upset by the therapist session, he started to mimick me. At first I didn't notice nor he clearly talked to me about it but one night because of course, he started screaming and crying that he finally realized why he was being a piece of shit: his daddy hit him! oh no!
So not only I had to try to support myself, now I had to also console him and when I asked for a pause because I was feeling sick like actually sick, you know that weird, heavy feeling that comes before a panic attack? I simply said "Wait, I need to calm down, I feel sick" he stopped screaming and crying. He stopped, right of the fucking blue, and said "I know."
In that moment I realized like someone shot me that everything he did was to control me and only have my and only my attention. He had no empathy, no feelings, he simply wanted me to be at his service my every living second and to ensure that, he made me dependant on him.
When I started to consider leaving, because no, it's not like in the movies where a woman packs a bag and leaves plus that thing could seriously injure a woman (stalkers that kill women are a thing and he would also follow me around the city sometimes) he noticed it but he didn't confront me but he did another piece of shit move: he trooned out.
He started stealing my shit, destroying my makeup becase "I'm learning, anon! You are supportive, right?"
I didn't want more abuse so I simply went "yeah" and also pretended to help him apply makeup. After this episode, I changed makeup brands because I associated my girly stuff with him.
And then I left. One day he was out, I called my family and they came to pick me up with my most important stuff and assuring that every document was also properly signed so I couldn't be accused of fraud (rent and stuff, not a burger).
He went on a rage fit and smearing campaigns of course, of course I'm the piece of shit, of course I'm a narc that left because I only care about me, of course I'm the bippie and not him (fun fact he went so deep into mirroring me that he got evaluated and surprise, he was a bippie but refused the diagnosis because "I don't have a simple personality disorder!!") and he had also the balls to contact my family and say shit like "Could you tell anon that I forgive her? She made mistakes and I know she's not coming back because she thinks I'm mad at her…"
Because he knew I used to vent to my family when he tard raged at me with words like "I don't know why bippie is mad at me…but I'm scared and I don't want to do the wrong thing." and after that he went after a girl that was eighteen. After 10 years that we were together.
I'm sorry if I got bloggy, I didn't want nor mean to but you cannot find enough of these horror tales online about BPD people. Remember that if a disorder gets an unbalanced amount of glazing or excusing behaviour (you don't see this shit with stuff like OCD that gets made fun of a lot or npd) it's highly suspicious and no, you can't fix them and no, they don't suffer. Their suffering is made up from lack of attention, can you imagine a more shitty person disorder?
And most of the girls you see online claiming it are not BPD, they're most likely abused or autistic but far from a full blown personality disorder (reminder that women always were called hysteric for rebelling against abuse, we are always "moody" according to medicine and psychology). Of course there are actual bippie women but they're very rare compared to bpd men and always believe a man if they say they are BPD and get the fuck away.

No. 2992722>>2992730

>>2992429
I assume the people who say this are lying tbh. They're either lying about being a troo sociopath who watches gore every day, or they do watch gore every day and don't actually give a fuck if the victim is human or not, they just say it to make themselves sound less deranged.

No. 2992730>>2992736>>2992796

>>2992722
i don’t watch and can’t stomach gore but i do get more upset when the person in pain or scared in a movie is an animal, a child or a woman vs a man. i think it’s normal to have instincts to protect the innocent and feel more for them

No. 2992736

>>2992730
BPD moids are the worst. So fucking melodramatic and they love terrorising their unfortunate partners.

No. 2992762

>>2992717
>And most of the girls you see online claiming it are not BPD, they're most likely abused or autistic
It's actually sad seeing girls (usually minors too, like girl you are 14 and your hormones are wacky) think they have it just because they had one shitty friendship or did one impulsive move. I get they're young and easily freak out with labels or self bias but if only they knew real BPD is nasty. It's sad when they feel the need to defend real bippies from their rightful stigma with the fact they are not abusive themselves but like, that's a clear sign you're not bippie, kiddo.

No. 2992796

>>2992730
>In a movie
Well, yeah, there's a pretty huge difference between a fictional simulated death and footage of someone dying for real kek

No. 2993060>>2993063>>2993138>>2993172

>>2992426
Why is narcissism the only mental illness no one fakes or is open about having? Is it not cool or quirky enough? Most self diagnosed autism/psychopaths/bpd/DID are probably narcissists in reality.

No. 2993063

>>2993060
100% agreed. People only develop this sort of thinking when they are self-obsessed. Everything is me me me me, let me blogpost about how cool I am, it screams narcissism masking as something else.

No. 2993138

>>2993060
You haven't seen the hordes of NPD larpers?

No. 2993172

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>>2993060
Imo, kids who get diagnosed with autism very early on attend ASD therapy groups and social groups and constantly have their parents fuck up their personalities because of the whole "omg ppl with aspergers are soooooooooooo intelligent" which isn't true.
Furthermore, since a lot of aspies are self-centred and don't understand people so much, come off as incredibly awkward, I think narcisstic traits are very common among them.
It affects moid autists more than female ones, luckily.

No. 2993790>>2993802>>2994008

I hate neets, they're selfish and insufferable. They think they don't owe their parents or anyone anything because they didn't decide to be born.
>inb4 muh trauma, muh depression
Lots of functional adults have had shitty traumatic childhoods and secretly deal with mental illness/addiction. What is their excuse? They just want an excuse to be a selfish lazy leech. You do owe people if they've been nothing but kind and giving to you. That's how relationships work

No. 2993802>>2993813>>2993826

>>2993790
Voluntary NEETs are often awful people and somewhere on the ASPD spectrum too with all that antisocial thinking and entitlement, at least they're too shut in to actually do anything dangerous

No. 2993813>>2993816

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>>2993802
Aren't most American school shooters autistic NEETs?

No. 2993816>>2993822

>>2993813
how are they neets if they have a school to go shoot up? isn't the definition of a neet that they're not in education

No. 2993822

>>2993816
Yes it is. Graduating grade school doesn't exempt you from being a NEET. It's the absence of college or university classes being the reason they're not employed that contributes to the "not educated" part. What, did you think NEETs are homeschooled or just released from the womb into a room? kek
Plus, there are some that shot up schools they never even went to.

No. 2993826

>>2993802
Because it would require too much effort to leave their goon cave to attain the means to kill innocent children. Luckily, most scrote neets are too lazy, anxious, and have abysmal social skills to follow through with anything. Female neets will almost never have a violent chimpout likes scrotes will

No. 2993859>>2993903

>>2992426
AYRT, and yeah LOL
>for one, there is no clinically such thing as sociopathy like you said. That's the layman's term for people with ASPD, and an actual trademark of a person having ASPD is a history of mistreating animals because the lack of empathy usually starts with how they treat something lesser than themselves, like pets or wildlife.
>since sociopathy is the layman's term, anybody who actually has it I feel wouldn't strictly call themselves a sociopath. If a person was truly diagnosed with ASPD and cared that much to even explain it, they would specifically say Antisocial Personality Disorder. "Sociopath" is a clinically useless term.
That being said, I think a lot of autists mistake themselves for being "sociopaths" or having ASPD because they're horrible at getting along with other people and want to justify that with the excuse of "I naturally can't", or are morbidly curious and think they're actually monsters just because they like to sit on BestGore or something and watch random cartel murders. Which makes them sick fucks but I think actually being a real monster or heartless is something different on its own.

No. 2993903

>>2993859
Samefag, I also think the "woman" in the picrel is most likely an autistic tranny because women that are certified ASPDs are so rare that they make up 1 in every 100 women. Every time you see a "female sociopath" on the internet, you have to question if that's even a woman because AFAWK it's pretty rare for a woman to have ASPD. Quora has so many pseudo intellectuals and fakers of everything, it runs a competition with reddit.

No. 2994008

>>2993790
Agreed, if they're gonna be this parasitic despite having everything handed to them they might as well just take themselves out.

No. 2995237>>2995268>>2995278>>2995280>>2995288>>2997537

So do grown-up "gifted kids" not realize that they were the retards in special education and were separated from their class so the rest of the students could learn uninterrupted for an hour or two each day? My conversations with "former gifted kids" (why do these grown adults still refer to themselves as kids? Why is their identity tied up in what adults told them as children? It's weird. Have they not grown up?) all seem to indicate that they believe themselves geniuses who were deprived of their potential.

No. 2995268>>2995274

>>2995237
To me, nobody's a genius until they do some ground-breaking shit. Being good at random puzzles that change nothing for the world or anyone doesn't make you a genius. Maybe just a genius at random puzzles but that's a useless talent.

No. 2995274

>>2995268
It makes sense when they're still kids because most kids are retards who believe everything adults tell them until they grow up. I just don't understand the adults who still believe the same even though they have nothing to show for their lives.

No. 2995278

>>2995237
I don't know where you're from and how the education system where you live but I always understood "former gifted child" and these kids who had the best grades in their class in school and/or were enrolled in special classes that were way more advanced than average, or they had more subjects and tests than other kids because their grades were good enough to be enrolled in these optional lessons. So the exact opposite as what you just said. But the people I see talking about themselves that way aren't formally diagnosed with anything so for all I know they were just better than average students who, as adults, grew to hate studying or working or they have completely average jobs and feel like their efforts were a waste of time and energy, or they realised they were just better than average and grew bitter. The kids you're talking about where I'm from are pushed into thinking they're special by their crazy parents who want to feel special for having a "special" and smart kid. That means you hear the crazy parents way more than their kids themselves, they get a doctor's note sometimes and that's it. Actual retards weren't separated in a different class, unfortunately.

No. 2995280

>>2995237
Most people are walking around in some state of arrested development and whining about being a former gifted kid is one of the dorkier ways it manifests kek.

No. 2995288>>2995296>>2995304>>2997597

>>2995237
I always thought 'gifted' meant highly intelligent, like significantly above average. Is that not what it is?

I had one of those in my year in primary school, they made him study Chinese on his own because the regular material bore him and he had already skipped two years. He was always very isolated from his peers, doesn't surprise me if people like that grow up a little messed up.

No. 2995296

>>2995288
basically, it's from the upper set programs that were called Gifted and Talented. But just because you were in Gifted at age 10 doesn't mean you grow up into someone who's above average for an adult.

No. 2995304

>>2995288
In a lot of American public schools they used 'gifted' interchangeably with 'above average' and too many people took it too heart and are now forever hung up on lost potential they never had.

No. 2995408

"you don't owe your parents anything" when it comes to being mentally ill or being born a sped. Unless they severely abused you, yes you do owe them some basic respect and obligations for choosing to raise you and feed you, and being born retarded doesn't give you an excuse to leech off them or expect the government to hand you your neetbux for every breathing moment
>we didn't ask to be born!
Neither did literally anyone else. Suck it up

No. 2997501>>2997529

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The biggest trick ASPDemons ever played was convincing everyone, but mostly tiktok teens who crave attention and mental health diagnoses and autistic people, that they were the REEL victims of vile abuse and everybody who speaks up about ASPD abuse and manipulation is ableist. It is beyond parody, I feel like I am in a South Park episode. Somehow you are allowed, and even encouraged to for the sake of transparency and prevention of romanticisiation, to show the non-glamorous and even abusive side to any and all other neurodivgencies and mental illnesses except cluster b disorders. The phrase "explanation, not an excuse" somehow never applies to them. It is ALWAYS an excuse. Also I hate how certain people, specifically the looney mental health "advocates", want to make it look like that people with ASPD are actually way better friends than anyone else because they "tell it how it is" and have "cognitive empathy which is better than just emotional empathy." It all looks like they think ASPDemons are just some quirky cartoon characters ala Alastor from Hazbin or some other shit.

No. 2997529

>>2997501
I genuinely pity autists who sympathise with ASPDfags. It's so naive it's just sad. They quote stuff like how they also lack empathy (autist lack of empathy is probably saying cringe and inappropriate shit or misunderstanding a friend's emotions, ASPD lack of empathy meanwhile is DV, arson, murder, assault, CSA, rape, etc.) and it's just ridiculous.
Then there's the larpers who want it as an edgy label but without the actual stigma.
>Hi I'm a sociopathic ASPD guyzz I hate the stigma… I don't beat or rape, I just suck at empathy… oh you need a criminal record to be diagnosed? Oh well uh I stole a candy bar when I was 10…
Just go back to kinning creepypastas or something Jesus Christ

No. 2997537

>>2995237
Kek did you mix up "gifted" with "special"? Gifted class is for the kids who are above average intelligence (or they consistently turned in the homework with good grades, which imo is totally achievable to the vast majority of students if they just pay attention and always do the homework with a parent checking if they're doing it correctly…), while the Special class was for the kids with learning disabilities like low-functioning autism and down syndrome. It's sort of funny, both classes have autistic kids, the high-functioning ones often in the gifted class while the low-functioning ones are in the special class. Honestly though, the term "special" for people with learning disabilities is so patronizing, it's really weird to me how it came about. They didn't want disabled people to feel ashamed for being disabled so they call them "special"… but by doing that it's just reinforcing the idea that "disabled" is something to be ashamed of. It's so dumb

No. 2997597

>>2995288
>I had one of those in my year in primary school, they made him study Chinese on his own because the regular material bore him and he had already skipped two years
He's lucky, in my school if I was so bored I stopped caring I was treated like shit by teachers, if I actively participated in class I was also treated like an attention whore and accused of cheating during tests because how dare a non white girl have better grades than everyone else, and when I was asked if I wanted to skip a grade my mom and I refused because the bullying was so bad in my school I was worried it would get worse for me. I was just a bit better than average as a whole though, as soon as I was in a special class with crazy rich kids with highly qualified parents who prepared them for the best schools and universities their whole life in high school I was totally average and by then I already stopped caring about studying.

No. 2998434>>2998449>>2998467>>2998637>>2998747

Being addicted to anything that doesn't give your body an actual, physical, chemical dependency has gotta be the most embarrassing affliction ever. Imagine telling the world that you lost the battle against an app.
>I'm addicted to pissing money away on gacha, here are some coping mechanisms that help me-
Uninstall the game or shut up and blow your paychecks in silence please, no1curr about how you "only" gamble a "small" amount of money multiple times a week
>I'm addicted to gambling
Just stop doing it lmao
>I'm addicted to porn
>The fact I gave myself erectile dysfunction because I was too dumb to close a tab is NOT FUNNY! STOP LAUGHING!!
That's not even an addiction tbh, that's just natural selection in action
>I'm addicted to social media
Delete your account
>I'm scared I'm gonna miss out!
Well fuck me, there's people that are dying in war right now but at least they don't have your problems. FOMO is clearly much scarier than anything else going on, especially eviction or going hungry or having your bank details stolen because you whore out your wallet to whoever asks
>I'm addicted to doomscrolling
Boring ass person just do something else
It'm literally IS that easy. Other addicts are suffering or dying in the hospital right now and you're sat in your room feeling sorry for yourself. All these things can be cured by logging off kek

No. 2998449

>>2998434
>Addicted to lolcow

No. 2998467

>>2998434
100% agreed. Especially gambling. How the fuck can you be addicting to gambling? Just stop? What the fuck, kek? It's not like you swallow the dice? The sports betting app doesn't inject it's advertisements into your veins just QUIT.

No. 2998585>>2998591>>2998637>>2998989

Are bippies lying when they say their bpd makes them more prone to being victims of abuse or grooming? Because I feel like it's 99% projection, if you look into their cases properly they're the ones doing the abuse and grooming themselves

No. 2998591>>2998593

>>2998585
Men intentionally seek out women who hate themselves because they're easier to torture, that's kind of just a fact of society

No. 2998593>>2998598

>>2998591
Those women don't seem bpd though, just low self esteem and reactive abuse doesn't qualify. I feel like true bippies see this kind of case and act like they're the same but they're the ones causing it

No. 2998598>>2998602

>>2998593
Damn, different people within the same demographic have different personalities and varying levels of emotional intelligence, that's crazy

No. 2998602

>>2998598
They are not the same demographic kek what are you saying

No. 2998637

>>2998585
it’s chicken and egg. most BPD girls were groomed as teenagers. is it because the grooming led to them developing traits that solidified into a personality disorder, or were they already predisposed to these traits which leads them to more impulsive risk taking behaviors that put them in situations where men who were looking to exploit young girls could reach them easily. thirst for attention and desperate for validation/love, impulsivity, etc. i could see it being a bit of both, and they might be more vulnerable targets as teenagers but if they’re like 30 saying they’re getting groomed that’s just like splitting on exes probably kek.
>>2998434
these people share personalities with those who get addicted to drugs, alcohol, sex whatever. some people are super overzealous and intense about anything they do, and cannot help but take it to an extreme and do it compulsively. i disagree with the addiction as a disease model but for people addicted to gambling porn etc they’re hooked on the dopamine rush in the brain. rehabs figured out that you can’t cure this addictive brain mechanism of doing things extremely obsessively, so that’s why recover programs try to get addicts to swap out the harmful additions. they tend to land on being addicted to religion, gym, etc.

No. 2998747>>2998752>>3000109

>>2998434
I agree, especially for the ones who are addicted to doomscrolling and social media. They assume we should feel bad for them when they're the ones who were actively ruining social media all that time. You want to use social media for specific purposes? No, normies who can't help but doomscroll will spam everyone and everything with politics or their uninteresting normie opinions and lead developers to ruin everything to cater to them. Fuck them. These exact same people have been calling others who play games on handhelds in public or read books in public to pass time in the train or subway or in long waiting lines performative instead of thinking about similar hobbies they could get into and practice anywhere instead of checking instagram from the billionth time. Some even take pictures of them and laugh at the behind their back online.

And you could have talked about shopping addicts. They're embarrassing. Oh you can't help but spend too much money you have or don't have on plastic trinkets and clothes you don't need? Just stop then, am I supposed to feel bad for you? And imagine being tricked into financially helping a gambling or a shopping addict too and finding out later, or being married to one?

No. 2998752>>2998762>>2998768>>2998787>>2998990

>>2998747
"Shopping addicts" exist? I thought it was just an exaggerated joke or figure of speech. Is it like consoomerism? If so then yeah I agree.

No. 2998762>>2998768

>>2998752
Yes, I'm talking about the ones who say they can't help it, who buy things they didn't even want, and who have huge debts just because they have to consoom. The consoomer threads have good cases.

No. 2998768

>>2998752
>>2998762
Yeah, I had a grandparent who was doing this to an insane degree. He was buying everything he saw a commercial for, he kept buying some drinks he was getting ads for, that he literally couldn't even drink because he was allergic to an ingredient in them. Blew his entire savings on perishable shit that had no resell value, going in to debt for literally no reason. I think it was kind of funny that an estranged uncle of mine suspiciously came back into the family right before his death so that he would be put back onto the will… unfortunately for him, all of grandpa's money got spent before his death so there was nothing valuable in the will. This uncle couldn't believe it because my grandparents were rich before he decided to leave the family kek, he tried suing my other uncle/his brother (the will executor), claiming that he was withholding assets. Nope! Uncle just thought he would win big in this death but all he got was some random worthless painting.

No. 2998787

>>2998752
I think they are just addicted to the serotonin rush of getting something new and never feeling like what they have is enough. I know someone irl who got therapy for it and yes, it's very real. I think the internet and media likes to make it look cute because it's not comparable to doing drugs, plus they still want to shill you products. It's an incredibly first world problem, but one worth fixing.

No. 2998989

>>2998585
No, because their behaviour ostracises them and ostracised women are more vulnerable to predation. It's true but it still doesn't mean you have to keep them around if it harms you to do it.

No. 2998990

>>2998752
shopping addicts are basically hoarders, they connect emotionally with items instead of people. It basically is a brain disorder and I do feel a bit sorry for them.

No. 2999720>>2999729>>3000097

>Be friend of woman
>woman marries a man from another country, moves there. man has nice job, woman learns another language and since she's very clever she immediately picks it up and starts working
>they buy a nice two story house together because their careers are very successful
>she is now pregnant
>son is born with autism, is not nonverbal but only communicates via repeating the last word he ears and screeches
>she's forced to give up her well paying job to stay at home to support the little autist with his therapy sessions which are just "what does the dog do?" "bak-! Dog! bark!" "good job!"
>my friend notices that that country autism therapy is bullshit, moves back to her home country
>her and her husband decide to divorce because he has to take care of the house they bought and he has a well paying job and can't move with her because that would mean learning a new language and searching a job in a country he doesn't know and hoping to land a nice position because autism therapies are expensive as fuck
>they have to divorce, she has to move in with her mother to at least hope that her son gets over the babbling stage
>(ex)Husband travels every month to see him and sends money to him.

Autism destroys lives. I wish there was a screening during pregnancy like down syndrome like some genes or dna abnormalities that point out the presence of autism to avoid passing on those defective genes.

No. 2999729>>2999743>>2999959

>>2999720
This is gonna sound fucked up but if I was a successful woman with a wonderful life who yet had a child with autism so bad that it corks the kid at the mental age of 1, I would surrender that kid up for adoption. And it's a boy? Yeah that kid wouldn't feel like my kid.

No. 2999743>>2999746

>>2999729
autism doesn't begin to show until about 3 years, most people are attached by then and struggle to accept their kid isn't in there somewhere.

No. 2999746>>2999762

>>2999743
>most people would struggle to accept
I definitely wouldn't. What's three years?

No. 2999752

I know it's not an actual diagnosis but it is disordered- sociopathic traits in kids genuinely concern me because there is very little you can do if it's there from a young age. They're fundamentally evil. I sound like some fundie karen sperging about demons but I'm tired of hearing kids be treated like they don't know what they're doing, especially in child court cases.
>They need to be taught empathy and they'll change
>They need to be rehabilitated and they'll change
>They need to be punished and they'll change
They never change no matter what. Look at freaks like Jon Venables and Robert Thompson and what they grew up to do in adulthood. You don't do that shit because you're taught, even if you're that young. Something was wrong since birth but it's too controversial to diagnose it.

No. 2999762>>2999763>>2999804

>>2999746
can't tell if trolling. Have you ever spent time around a baby, any baby? we're extremely hardwired to bond with them.

No. 2999763

>>2999762
I have and I've also spent time around mentally disabled people like my down syndrome cousin. If I cared about being a mom, I would not want a kid like that at all. People say shit like, "if you're scared of your child being this and that, then you shouldn't be a parent." Maybe but if I was the woman in your story,I would have said "enough is enough" a long time ago before the kid reaches fifteen. Maybe at five.

No. 2999804>>3000181

>>2999762
nta Not if the fucker has autism

No. 2999959>>2999984

>>2999729
You can't always do that. There are countries where giving up your kid to adoption is only possible when they're newborns. However I agree with you and would do anything to give that thing up just like you said.

No. 2999984>>2999991

>>2999959
why don't they simply act so neglectful the state takes their kid?

No. 2999986

Whatever the one is that makes the other person mouth or repeat at low volume everything you say to them

No. 2999991

>>2999984
It depends. Some people don't want to risk jail time, some people just know that it's not going to work if the employees are neglectful enough, the type of cps employee who leave normal abused kids with their rapist parents just because and then the kid gets killed by said parents just a few days later. If we followed our human instincts from back in the day plenty of women who give birth to drooling retards would just kill them or abandon them in a deserted area to make sure they don't come back and ruin their lives. To me it counts as self defense but it's illegal now.

No. 3000097

I do not know if this counts, but the responses to this >>2999720 anon reminded me of similar situations when it comes to down's syndrome. There is a woman on tiktok who says that she has mosaic down's syndrome and has 2 kids with visible DS. She had a video where she talked about how inhumane it is that Iceland has nobody with DS because all fetuses with it got and are aborted. There were other DS and disability activists who were spouting the same bs and claiming it is ableist, because this is a "condition not a disease". On DS subreddit people get banned allegedly for speaking up about negative sides of it and not presenting DS as a "oh they have just a slight mental disability and look different from us! Otherwise, they are exactly the same!" thing. I think you have to be an extremely naive imbecile to think this is what DS is. They always show like the top 1%, for the lack of the better term, of people with it and not the rest of them who suffer from cardiovascular disorders, seizures, early onset dementia, molest children and everybody within their vicinity, can't speak and communicate normally and shit themselves everyday. It won't be so "cute" when instead of 3 yo child there is a 28 yo 163 cm, 90 kg man who is crawling on your lap because he thinks he is still a baby. And even when they are children there are difficulties to raising them. Just like the mentioned anon said, shit like this ruins lives. Yes, the children with disorders like DS and autism do get mistreated, but if only the disabled community would not get their panties in a twist and allow people to discuss "controversial" and "painful" things like these without fear of being dogpiled by chronically online activists.

No. 3000109>>3000120

>>2998747
You're completely right. People will really go out of their way to be as toxic as possible and then act like Instagram forced them to do it kek
>inb4 complaining about toxicity on lolcor
Let me throw stones from my glass house in peace, dammit

No. 3000120>>3000173>>3000567

>>3000109
At least on LC we don't use accounts which means you can leave and come back anytime, there's no algorithm bullshit going on that's forcing us to see posts by retarded normies about topics nobody cares about, nobody is forcing us to use LC to hope to get a job later or have a social life, etc. And unless bots are getting worse here as well, we're talking directly to each other instead of throwing shitty unfunny memes or news articles at each other and hoping we'll get likes. Getting addicted to social media is embarrassing because these people aren't addicted to proper interactions with other people they're actively befriending or already know irl but can't contact by phone or irl like if they have friends or relatives abroad, they just fall for bait, only bots like their posts, they see pictures of Trump making stupid faces, ads for radioactive clothes sold on Shein or cats doing whatever and ask for more, sometimes they look at porn in there and they act like victims. Who threatened them at gunpoint to create social media accounts? Nobody.

No. 3000173

>>3000120
Kinda can be said about most addictions aside from like… what, opioids? Nobody put someone at gunpoint and told them to drink or smoke kek
Addictive personality people are such faggots

No. 3000181>>3000559>>3000893

>>2999804
you literally don't know anything about autism, autism doesn't show up until 3, at which point you're emotionally attached to the toddler.

No. 3000559>>3000584

>>3000181
You are betting way too hard on every person liking their kid. Not every woman likes her kid or would want to stay being a parent if it turns out retarded.
>emotionally attached
Do you hear yourself? Not everybody likes kids.

No. 3000567

>>3000120
>we're talking directly to each other instead of throwing shitty unfunny memes or news articles at each other and hoping we'll get likes
unironically i feel like the quality of social interaction on lolcow is higher than most social media because of this. social media is oddly unsocial. barely anyone is communicating. it's just businesses competing for your attention and money and trying to influence politics and change your mind in some way.

No. 3000584>>3000594

>>3000559
the vast majority are, it's your own kid.

No. 3000594>>3000641

>>3000584
Well not everyone. You shouldn't assume a woman is gonna love her kid or keep it if it's retarded. I'm surprised you think that, go ask heavily postpartum depressed women what they think of the kids they just gave birth to kek

No. 3000641>>3000659

>>3000594
of course I'm aware ppd exists. But the vast majority of women love their kids or we wouldn't surprised as a species. OP going well I just wouldn't love my kid if it had autism is basically a weird form of NLOGism.

No. 3000659>>3000683

>>3000641
>not wanting a retarded kid is a form of NLOGism
Nogga, like 30-60% of kids in foster care are mentally or physically disabled. Almost 100% of the unborn with Down Syndrome are aborted in Iceland. Women NOT wanting retarded kids isn't unbelievable or uncommon at all.

No. 3000683>>3000732>>3001107>>3001122

>>3000659
I feel like this entire conversation has been responding to something slightly to the left of what I've been saying. I know that (it's about a third, so 2/3rds aren't), but the whole thing of 'If I had a baby with autism, I would just stop caring as soon as I found out' is not how it happens. It's heavily biased by economics and also problems in the foo like drug use that end up causing the disabilities in the first place. You don't get a lot of perfectly healthy upper middle class women having an autistic baby and dropping it off at the foster home the next day. It's not a real scenario, it's a fantasy scenario where OP is the logical self-prioritising badass, not like those other icky women with feelings.

No. 3000732>>3000735

>>3000683
>'If I had a baby with autism, I would just stop caring as soon as I found out' is not how it happens.
When kids with autism are twice as likely to be given up for adoption, that proves love definitely often is conditional. Kids being surrendered to adoption are also older on average now, so this idea that 3 years is enough time for just any woman to be too attached is an overstep. Especially when PPD can last for several years, which is plenty of time for autism to become apparent in a small child. Matter of fact, the average age for kids with autism to be placed in the adoption system is past the toddler age, ontop of being 2x more likely to be surrended to the system. Your theory on emotional attachment based on age literally doesn't work. These kids had several years for their birth parents to give them a chance but look at these numbers. Kids with disabilities are 4-10x more expensive to raise than kids who are normal. Even if some women have the money to take care of a retarded kid with no hiccups in their financial satisfaction, not all women want to fall from their tax bracket. You think all retarded kids in foster care originallh came from poor households? That's before even touching on the women who can only afford a normal kid, and may plausibly go homeless if it comes out 4-10x more expensive. It's not at all rare for women to regret having kids, especially when they're slow. Aborting and giving retarded kids up for adoption is far from being unheard of. Not all women are willing to sacrifice every ounce of modicum to normalcy for an unfortunate kid. Not all parents love their kids enough after a measley three years or even fresh after birth and that is not at all uncommon. Why are you treating these like they're an impossible concepts?

No. 3000735>>3000751

>>3000732
>Why are you treating these like they're an impossible concepts?
I'm literally not and have acknowledged that several times.

No. 3000751>>3000763

>>3000735
>"it's a fantasy scenario where OP is the logical self-prioritising badass, not like those other icky women with feelings."
You're acting like it's a fantasy. It's not. Not all women wanna take care of retarded kids. These numbers aren't unrealistic, they're right there. Even if a woman is rich enough to take care of a retarded kid, that's still an extra lot of money, time, stress and resources to pour into a kid that very well may mentally stay two years old well into their 30s. Even if a rich woman could easily take care of a disabled kid, why would she actually WANT one? Some may still want their kids after the diagnosis but not all would and understandably so.

No. 3000763

>>3000751
>some don't want to
Yeah I know, I've acknowledged that several times.

No. 3000893>>3000920>>3000932>>3001089>>3001120>>3002712

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>>3000181
ayrt I know you really want to be in denial, but I promise you. It has happened and I personally hate children a lot. If I personally got pregnant, it'd be a result of rape, and if you compounded on that the kid was showing signs of just being devoid of being any semblance of normal? Especially after being normal for a few years? Lmao, sayonara
I don't actively wish any harm on children inherently, but it is not unheard of that one would just disown that which does not function as intended. One of the reasons I had a hysterectomy at an early age is because I acknowledge that I would readily abandon a child for this very reason.

No. 3000920>>3001089

>>3000893
why are ppl who hate kids always like this?

No. 3000932>>3001089

>>3000893
what's you getting pregnant by rape got to do with autism

No. 3001089

>>3000920
>>3000932
lmfaooooo
>>3000893

"I hate children a lot" bitch you were a child. Sorry you're gay or whatever and that makes you think you can excuse your really unnecessary hatred of children, being raped and getting pregnant does not mean a justification in "hating" a baby, why are you not directing all that hate towards the rapist…. Anyway, I know this is a hypothetical situation (or is it?) but do you know that your personal experience Doesn't Mean Anything(tm) beyond your personal experience? As a person who doesn't want kids and is not dating or having sex with men, I feel like your disgust towards children is genuinely retarded, a sign of emotional immaturity, and you are not based, you are cringe.

No. 3001096

>>2909787
The one disorder I can’t deal with is someone who is sociopathic due to one of my parents being so

No. 3001107

>>3000683
>You don't get a lot of perfectly healthy upper middle class women having an autistic baby and dropping it off at the foster home the next day
Probably because they would get shamed and alienated by other people for it. Women giving up their babies up for adoption is very taboo. I follow a lot of moms of autistic children just out of morbid curiosity, and they look so miserable; their videos seem like a way to cope with their ruined lives.

No. 3001120>>3001167>>3001279>>3001375>>3003372

>>3000893
Women are expected to sacrifice their entire lives for others. Especially burdens of society like autists and downies. It's easy to call someone a ''selfish NLOG'' when you don't have to deal with this shit every day.

No. 3001122>>3001146

>>3000683
other icky women and their feelings is part of why we're in this mess, like it or not.

No. 3001146

>>3001122
it's not the women you stupid dumbass it's the choice women have between giving up their baby which is a loaded concept in this society no matter how you slice it and raising a child with disabilities which the world claps for superficially. Dumbass. Fuck you and your dubs

No. 3001167

>>3001120
Disabled males are legit the worst thing in the world.

No. 3001254

>>2983661
IME the racism/sexism is more the bippie thinks their personal problems and emotions are paramount to more serious issues. I've seen bippies claim they're more oppressed than entire genocided nations, races, violence against women, etc etc kek. Someone could be talking activism about a topic and then the bippie brings up how their beepeedee makes them feel more pain than the collective Holocaust

No. 3001279>>3001288>>3003372

>>3001120
> It's easy to call someone a ''selfish NLOG'' when you don't have to deal with this shit every day.
You know who also doesn't have to actually deal with this stuff every day? the person who's getting imaginary raped.

No. 3001288>>3002560

>>3001279
Nta but who said anything about rape?

No. 3001375

>>3001120
I think that a lot of autism moms genuinely believe that since their child is autistic, it would stay like a baby forever. The true horror is that they don't.
Sure, there are calm autists but a moid will always have tard rage because it's in the dna to have tard fits, so imagine a walking mountain of muscles and fats hitting you because you can't bring it to mcdonalds.
As a parent, I think the top priority would be raise a child to live on their own, some (but very very very very few) manage to do so but still need support, like yeah they need their parent to check on them every week or so to make sure they didn't fuck up their apartment, but to these barely conscious autists its cruel to leave them be. Sadly they're bound to stay chained to a bed and sedated until they pass of old age or some complication or they accidentally kill themselves and I also hate the "When you choose to have a child, you signed up for the possibility to have an autistic child" no the fuck? I didn't! I always wished to have a healthy kid and that's not healthy!
Since autism is genetic, I wish that technology would be so advanced to recognize what is exactly responsible for it so to avoid it reproducing, like when people do tests for down syndrome. I also don't buy that they're clever but somehow trapped in their body so they need an ipad to communicate because even if they were trapped in their body, their ipad communications are always "mcdonalds mcdonalds bluey mcdonalds i want tendies disney bluey" and it's never stuff like "Mommy I need help, sorry if I hurt you" like a monkey is more conscious than them. It may seem that I'm overly mean for autism but I hate how it's glazed like a mere difference in communication and not an actual disease and also how these sacks of meat steal resources from sperg girls. Since there is no more distinction in between asperger and autism, therapists are now one-size-fits-all and sperg girls need a lot of support to navigate life but they're not taken seriously because they're forced to mask and get eventually abused meanwhile autism mommies get all the support to pay for useless therapies that surely wont magically make them evolve into sentient beings. It's sickening.

No. 3002560>>3004429

>>3001288
literally the OP of this whole conversation has just been running some fantasy scenario where she gets raped and has to ruthlessly overcome aborting her rapist's baby, scroll the fuck up

No. 3002712>>3003372

>>3000893
Nona, I want kids and I don't think you said anything wrong. It is a fear of mine to birth a disabled child and I would abort my child if I knew they would be born disabled in anyway. It takes the reward out of having children imo. But at the end of the day, if something happens to them or they end up being autistic or something, my love wouldn't let me abandon them. I think it's good you know that about yourself and don't want kids

No. 3003372>>3005259

>>3002712
I didn't think that my response would generate such a response, given the title of the thread kek. Thanks for trying to understand my perspective of things. I think parents like yourself are better emotionally equipped to handle those sorts of scenarios. And while I don't think that will change my opinion on autism as a Mental Disorder (I) Can't Deal With, I admire your level of passion.

Even if this was merely a hypothetical situation. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
>>3001120
Understands the sort of thing I'm personally afraid of happening to me, since I have heard of scenarios where women have mentally disabled babies as a result of rape. Unsure why >>3001279 took it so personally that I have a specific fear that fuels one of the reasons I dislike kids though. I might've struck a nerve I guess?

No. 3004425

Alcoholics and drug addicts that aren't in treatment. I know it's a disease and chemical dependency is a thing but these people are so selfish. They'll cause drama, disrupt families, and break up friendship all for a fix or drink. I just can't with these people.

No. 3004429

>>3002560
You sound triggered and you talk like a zoomer. Also, it's about aborting disabled kids, which your mother should have done with you.(bait)

No. 3005041>>3005397>>3012460

There's no real point in getting an autism diagnosis (or anything for that matter) if you're a functional person who has healthy coping mechanisms, can make and keep friends well, don't need work accommodations, live a decent life, etc. How are you disabled in that regard? You can address other issues in therapy without claiming autism and disability all the time. I do not believe a lot of people who've been professionaly diagnosed at this point because every woman on earth that likes DND or still makes OCs after the age of 12 has autism now. The bar is so low. You don't want to be different, but you're desperate to be different and in fact better than normies/neurotypicals/allistics. Don't get me started on how grossly narcissitic so many of these people are. Disclaimer that a lot of this stems from people I've personally known.

No. 3005259>>3005413

>>3003372
The scenario you're afraid of has actually made me wonder if you were autistic and that's why you go straight from rape is the only way I'd get pregnant to if I'd had an autistic kid I'd abort it or give it away. OCD is a very common co-morbidity with autism and your scenario is so unlikely it sounds like an OCD neurosis to me. About 1 in 127 people worldwide are diagnosed with autism, and about a third of those are low-functioning enough to be non-verbal and longterm dependent. Then the various studies that look into pregnancy resulting from rape generally put it around 5% chance of pregnancy, so basically, your scenario is more or less non-existent, unless the odds of autism are significantly increased by you having autism yourself. And then the scenario is explained by co-morbid OCD, like I said. Have you actually done anything about this fear of yours like go on birth control or get sterilised or do you just ruminate over it?

No. 3005397>>3012460

>>3005041
It's because they're still kinda mentally stunted/maladjusted to an extent but this mostly due to environment/socialization tbh. But yeah I wouldn't consider someone who's mildly spergy at worst that still lives a functioning life without extra assistance disabled.

No. 3005413>>3005696>>3006973

>>3005259
I'm sterilized, as mentioned before. I've got my own mix of disabilities mentally, definitely, that have been brought up ITT that I ignore. I appreciate your valiant attempt at being a chair psychiatrist, but you're pretty far off the mark kek. None of what you listed came up and I've been tested for that stuff. I have a feeling most of those offended by what I was saying are autistic, however. Most of the time when it's brought up, that seems to be the one disability that offends people if you speak against.

No. 3005621

clusterbees who call themselves angels and saints. I'd rather deal with the edgelords who call themselves demons and monsters, at least they're honest

No. 3005696>>3006099

>>3005413
that's not really true, every type of mental issue posted here has had it's defenders. I was just pointing out that the scenario you brought up and is why you hate the idea of autistic children, could never happen to you, and if you're sterilised, that's even less reason to be thinking about it. Assuming it's been you all the way through, why have you spent 7 days on something that could literally never happen to you?

No. 3006089

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>>2992429
I probably sound incredibly retarded right now but isn’t there an overlap between gore watchers and that 764 cult? The people in that group are misanthropic gore loving bpd nightmares but are required to torture pets and wildlife in order to “ascend” or they blackmail kids into killing their pets. Do these people stop caring about animals when there edgelord points are threatened or something? I don’t hang around these communities at all so as an outsider they seem to have the same culture to me.

No. 3006099>>3006396

>>3005696
nta but why the fuck have you spent 7 days arguing with someone who hates a specific mental disorder in the "mental disorders you just can't deal with" thread

No. 3006396>>3006922

>>3006099
I haven't. That's kind of my point, if she'd stopped responding people would have stopped responding to her.

No. 3006922>>3006973

>>3006396
You know there were multiple people in the conversation, right?

No. 3006973

>>3006922
OP acknowledges it was her here >>3005413

No. 3008426>>3010507

I think it's absurdly funny when anachans attempt to bully people and their only insult is "fat". Nobody's offended by that except other anachans, they'd seethe if they heard it so they assume the whole world will too. Just say one word about them and they all swarm like seagulls chanting "you are so fat lmao" as if that affects anyone with a healthy mind. Nah, we all healthy and fit here, unlike you who will die in two months

No. 3010183

>"Why would anyone ever fake a mental disorder?! Theres no benefits at all!"
I don't know how people can still think this way when time and time again you see people do vile acts and get a slap on the wrist, and sometimes even SYMPATHY, due to having a mental illness kek

No. 3010507

>>3008426
Anachans are so pathetic, they’re massive bullies but in the gayest way. No one else is convinced that your size 6 friend is fat KEK. They’re almost always massive pickmes too, and will silently compete with you over the dumbest shit. If you’re a woman who isn’t rail thin and still gets moid attention they want you dead.

No. 3012460>>3012480>>3012491>>3012581>>3012614

I know charisma is common for people with BPD, but is it common for them to be liked by everyone? I knew a girl at university who instantly became popular (especially amongst the female students). She was approachable and easy to talk to, but only after knowing her for a month, I was already sick of her. She was extremely attention seeking, and she was always making up stories about how smart and talented she was or venting about some evil childhood friend while portraying herself as a rational angel who wanted to solve the conflict. One time she got involved in drama with an unpopular girl, and she proceeded to accuse the other girl of a crime she didn't commit. I normally choose to believe that people are telling the truth, but it was just so obvious everything she said was a lie.
I called her out on a lie in front of her face one time. She couldn't argue against it, but she still refused to back down. Later one of my friends told me that she didn't think it was a lie, and I genuinely felt like I was taking crazy pills because it was just so obvious.
I later found out she has BPD so that explained the martyr complex and need for attention. But I still don't get how she managed to charm everyone. I'm not even close with her, and I got sick of her antics pretty quickly. I don't understand how her friends put up with it.
>>3005041
>>3005397
>this mostly due to environment/socialization
At the risk of sounding preachy but society has changed rapidly the last few decades. Most people grew up on the internet now, and we are in general more isolated. Even the most outgoing, friendly not-autistic person who has no interest in faking mental illness for attention still sucks at social etiquette nowadays. Some behaviour that was considered mildly spergy two decades ago is just the norm now. That's why doctors should gatekeep the autism diagnosis harder.

No. 3012480

>>3012460
I had no idea charisma was even a part of BPD. I would think all of it is masking to prevent abandonment, meet attention seeking needs and less actual charisma? Being attentive to conversation and reading social cues well can be due to possible trauma. The only ones I've met who were liked by everyone are the ones who also had narcisstic traits, but I'm no expert and have little experience with those formally diagnosed.

First ayrt. Completely agree with the gatekeeping. I do not understand how incredibly high functioning people that have never needed supports and are mildly spergy get diagnosed and for some reason people think nobody can ever be misdiagnosed with autism. I just stopped watching a youtuber who's claiming autism, suddenly making "the tism" jokes, making it her whole personality as if she's super special now. Is that normally how disabled people take their diagnosis or? Seems very tiktok-ified.

No. 3012491

>>3012460
a lot of people with BPD learn how to fawn at and manipulate people so it means they learn how to put on a charismatic and sweet facade that people who don't know best fall for, we have pixielocks as a cow for example.

No. 3012581

>>3012460
not to be weird but are you autistic? I just ask because I am and find BPDs whiny and annoying, but yes, everyone else seems to think they're great.

No. 3012614

>>3012460
It's not that bippies are charismatic, they're predators in the literal sense. They shift themselves around their victim(s) for their own good, they have no personality, that's in fact a diagnostic criteria, they simply morph in what people want. Dangerous. Some people can see it when they are faking but some genuinely believe they're good and tortured souls because they believe in the "kindness and don't judge" bullshit, remember to always shame, judge and point your finger and the bippies in your life.

No. 3012903>>3018609

Don't know what it is, it's like a mix of narcissism and schizophrenia where they straight up delude they did nothing wrong. Normal narcs know they did something wrong, they just lie to keep their image. But this case genuinely does not remember they did anything wrong, like the moment it happens their brain literally rewrites their own memories. They genuinely believe what they claim is truth because their brains craft the images that it occurred.

No. 3015914>>3019014>>3019034>>3021880

I don't believe BPDs have high suicide rates, seems like a myth they perpetuate themselves to get sympathy. More like they threaten to kill themselves all the time for attention but rarely actually do kek. I'm probably an asshole for this too but after a while of dealing with the trauma of someone suicide baiting you really have no more sympathy. It's tiring and hurtful. Call emergency services or just fuck off at this point.

No. 3018525>>3021880

I will no longer ever entertain a friendship with a bippie. I'm over all of it. Even if they're not out of control they still act so fucking weird and are prone to jealousy. I don't give a fuck how much they fawn to keep me as their loyal little emotional trash can I cannot and will no longer ever maintain a relationship or friendship with one. If you actually cared for the bippies in your lives you would just cut contact and ghost. It's for the best.

No. 3018609>>3018906

>>3012903
arguably that's borderline personality disorder. Not to beat a dead horse, I am a separate poster from the recent two. I too have had to deal with someone who briefly and quietly mentioned that she had BPD. I was young and retarded and thought that if I was good and kind and tolerant that I could enjoy the closeness we developed almost instantly. Not only did this result in me being played like a fool, it changes the way you approach friendships and relationships for the rest of your life.

No. 3018718

>>2953663
Especially daughters of mothers with anorexia/bulimia

No. 3018906>>3018926

>>3018609
BPDs still know they did something wrong. This case genuinely rewrites their own minds that it's on the schizophrenia spectrum instead

No. 3018926

>>3018906
No, they believe their 'emotional truth', they would only have serious feelings over serious happenings so you must have done something seriously wrong, the whole battle is getting them to understand that they overreact to everything and aren't interpreting the world correctly.

No. 3018975>>3019019>>3019022>>3021886

why do pickme anachans have only one insult? like is anyone offended by "lol ur soooo fat fatty fatso fattyfatgirl" except for stereotypical middle schoolers in movies?

No. 3019014

>>3015914
Bpd is retarded narcissism, they are too narcisstic to kill themselves, they just say that stuff to make you feel bad if you don't pander them. It's emotional blackmail.

No. 3019019>>3019026

>>3018975
Hey, that's not true. They also have racism kek

No. 3019022

>>3018975
They're mentally ill and literally starving their brains. Not only are they incapable of believing anything in the world is worse than "fat" due to mental illness, they are also incapable of producing any better insults because their brain is too busy cannibalizing itself.

No. 3019026

>>3019019
KEK also something moidcentered "this is why you'll never get a bf/male love" etc. It's really so baffling to me.

No. 3019034

>>3015914
A past acquaintance would always be suicidal texting everyone about it and then she'd go inpatient for the weekend and afterwards tell us how nice it was that the people looked after her. Anyone with a real intention would just do it or at least not glamorize it. But bpds don't even attempt they just enjoy the threat of it to others and the attention that comes with it

No. 3020697>>3021172

KEKMAO the retarded guy sitting next to me went to get this autism report and he's not diagnosed he's just genuinely mentally retarded

No. 3021159>>3021523>>3021881

>Ew that guy stinks
>Omg don't judge!! He may be mentally ill!!! Depression makes you don't leave the bed!!
Ok by that logic, do they also piss and shit the bed? Ok, there were squeaky clean and perfumed people that killed themselves anyway, and?
Some people simply like to be dirty, that's it. If they can get up to piss, shit and wipe, they can brush their teeth. They can take a shower. Some mentally ill people are not depressed, they're just lazy and have a weird addiction to being dirty, like hoarders do.
I knew a girl that got up, dressed and put on makeup but didn't wash her body in almost 3 weeks.
>B-but sensory problems!
Putting on dresses and makeup is ten time worse than a shower
>B-but my different levels of sensory needs
Like I care? They are gross anyway and I don't want to gag if they get too close. I don't want to touch their hands. I don't want to look at them. Gross. Whatever mental illness that makes people liking being dirty and not feeling bad about it it's gross.

No. 3021172

>>3020697
>implying being autistic isn't the same as being genuinely mentally retarded
Hm…

No. 3021523

>>3021159
They're also absolute cunts to anyone who tries to give them kind advice too. Especially if they live with others who aren't a fan of them reeking and rotting all day. At some point you do owe them basic normalcy.
>they're suffewing and hate themselves!
I used to have sympathy for them tbh but it really drains once you meet first hand cases

No. 3021871>>3021878

Not a specific mental disorder but considering it's within the serious trauma or abuser umbrella: COCSA perpetrators.
Yes they know what they're doing is wrong. How is it that they supposedly "don't have a clue what they're doing", but magically somehow know to keep the abuse hidden from parents or other adults? Know to tell their victims to keep it a dirty little secret? Really says enough. And so what if they were victims themselves, plenty of kids who went through CSA don't decide to do it on other kids. The ones that do are just psychopaths by birth.
And they rarely feel guilt either. Treating them like they're just clueless babies under the law is how they continue to do the same crimes in adulthood and you can't change my mind. It's insane how coddled they are and I suspect anyone who defends them probably did the same shit to someone kek

No. 3021878>>3021887

>>3021871
Depends on circumstances. Are we talking about a 16 year old raping a 4 year old or an 8 year old and a 6 year old where the 8 year old is just copying what he's seen his father do to him?

No. 3021880

>>3015914
>>3018525
Yes in my experience they have a tendency to exploit and then control autistic people. My friend also constantly threatened suicide when we were both 14 and I constantly believed it then but looking back on it I think she was just saying so in order to get attention.

Bippies also constantly contradict themselves, for example loved Nigel Farage Matt Walsh Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro two years ago, wanted Republicans to win 22 midterms, called Barbie movie feminist propaganda, was a tradwife, now she's super WOKE and a member of the green party and hates people who use ai. A quick turnaround for sure. They love to anamaxx

No. 3021881>>3022133

>>3021159
I don't understand people who can't shower. Cooking and cleaning is infinitely more time and effort consuming. Do they starve themselves too?

No. 3021886

>>3018975
They are disproportionately Russian which is a collectively brain damaged country(baiting)

No. 3021887>>3021891

>>3021878
They're not that different, sick of this argument. The 8yo should still feel fear and pain after his father does that to him and know not to inflict fear and pain on others and still is making a choice to do it to his sibling.

No. 3021891>>3021917

>>3021887
An 8 year old cant get erotic pleasure from sexually abusing someone so yes they are different
Children copy their parents

Theres also a difference between innocent experimentation and cocsa

No. 3021917

>>3021891
even if it's """innocent experimentation""" it always leaves the victims with trauma and when they speak out they get this bullshit shoved at them
>An 8 year old cant get erotic pleasure from sexually abusing someone
As if that negates the crime? They still get some form of pleasure, even if it is not sexual, why else would they do it? They still feel pain from when it's done to them, meaning they know the abuse is bad, and they still choose to do the same thing on others. They deserve absolutely no sympathy.

No. 3022133

>>3021881
they eat processed trash

No. 3022874>>3023397>>3023439>>3024161>>3026424>>3026641>>3027627>>3029822

why are autists so fucking obsessed with japan. Why is it always Japan

No. 3023397

>>3022874
hey now it's not always Japan, they're into Nazi Germany too kek

No. 3023439>>3026409

>>3022874
Not all Autists or even most just rapey moids and groypers

No. 3024161

>>3022874
They hyperfixate on anime and otaku culture.

No. 3026409

>>3023439
Yes all autists. They're fucking retarded.

No. 3026424

>>3022874
They're attracted to the structure of the culture and flashy blinky colors on their merch.
Their train commuter system makes the common autist blush alone.

No. 3026636>>3026669>>3026694>>3026702>>3026776>>3026830>>3026878>>3077556

>>2943816
Can you retarded bippies go back to your own thread? You realize if she was bippie then so were you too? Self own.
>When I was around 9 and her 7
Kek. And if he really was sekshually abyoosing your asses, why didn't you report it to the police immediately? Last I checked 9 and 7 were clearly old enough to speak, not bumbling babies. Then again clusterbees aren't known for their intelligence kekkington. Makes sense someone would go for you since bippies are abnormally sexual to begin with.
>When he came over they'd often have sex right in the middle of the kitchen or living room and no we weren't spying on them, it would happen when we came home from school as we opened the front door.
Yeah that totally happened. Can you at least make your retarded lies consistent? You can say you were just perverts who were jealous she had a partner at least. You thought you were slick with the fact you had to specify you totally weren't spying on them kek, means you definitely were. Bippies being hypersexual freaks from birth theory is undefeated. Your mom and him should've sued you both for defamation.(bait)

No. 3026641

>>3022874
Japan is full of autists.

No. 3026669>>3026677

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>>3026636
NTA but I'm sorry this is how you cope.

No. 3026677>>3026686

>>3026669
and tell me exactly how I'm "coping", little miss triggered bippiechan?(bait)

No. 3026686>>3026695

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>>3026677
>bippiechan
There's only one anon itt writing walls of text about small children being evil perverts and it's not me

No. 3026694

>>3026636
Who pissed in your cereal goddamn.

No. 3026695>>3026708

>>3026686
Oh so you're mad that I'm right? What exactly is wrong about the medically backed up facts that clusterbees are low intelligence, bippieism IS inherited, and bippies ARE hypersexual? Do I need to get out the PubMed docs?

No. 3026702

>>3026636
>kekkington
omg please go back this is cringe even for lc

No. 3026708

>>3026695
NTA but it kind of sounds like you have BPD and upon hearing her story of dealing with ger BPD nightmare mother you got insanely triggered because you felt called out for some reason. I mean who says shit like
>You can say you were just perverts who were jealous she had a partner at least
about small children or even
>And if he really was sekshually abyoosing your asses, why didn't you report it to the police immediately? Last I checked 9 and 7 were clearly old enough to speak
about children as well. Not all children have the means or even understanding to report their abusers. What the fuck is wrong with you nona?

No. 3026710>>3026714>>3026718>>3026722>>3026797

>>3026701
Everyone at that age knows how to pick up a phone and dial 911. Retard.
Seething bippies mad they're getting called dumb so here's the studies:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7910208/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31317840/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10729927/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3071095/
>Specifically, those with borderline personality disorder are more likely to exhibit greater sexual preoccupation, have earlier sexual exposure
And classic projection accusing me of bpd kek.

No. 3026714>>3026720

>>3026710
>bippies have earlier sex exposure
Breaking News: Exposure to sex before developmentally appropriate leads to mental illness. Shocking.

No. 3026718>>3026728

>>3026710
It's not about the BPD you moron, you're a total freak expecting a 9 year old to be able to comprehend an abusive living situation and be mature enough to handle it alone. You seriously should not be around kids if you can't understand something as basic as this

No. 3026720>>3026748

>>3026714
And this is the mental disorders you can't deal with thread, read the rules whiteknight.
>leads to mental illness
And mental illness is a totally good thing. Makes sense.

No. 3026722>>3026733

>>3026710
>Everyone at that age knows how to pick up a phone and dial 911. Retard.
She was nine, possibly seven which makes more sense. Not all children know how to report their abusers, some might not even report their abusers because they're someone they trust like a close family member because of perceived consequences. There's fear, shame of not wanting anyone to know, and again, they might not want to hurt the trusted adult they love. Child abuse is an insanely complex situation that can't be handwaved with a "why didn't they just say anything!".
You are right though, you don't have BPD you're just insanely retarded.

No. 3026728>>3026795

>>3026718
Yes it is about the BPD retard, it literally makes them less intelligent kek.
>you're a total freak expecting a 9 year old to be able to comprehend an abusive living situation and be mature enough to handle it alone
I had one and I was able to dial emergency services, so skill issue. Everyone I know who went through similar situations knew how to pick up mommy's phone at least. Tell me why you couldn't then

No. 3026733>>3026751

>>3026722
Kek the seethe is incredible. Retards like yourself who don't even know how to dial a 3 digit number should be locked away from society than steal our oxygen. It's a 3 digit number not a 25 character code from your vidya games

No. 3026748

>>3026720
I'm not defending bippies retard I'm saying that most people will become mentally ill if they're exposed to sex before developmentally appropriate because that's how childhood sex trauma works.

No. 3026751>>3026759

>>3026733
>can't comprehend the complexities of child abuse and why a victim may not be able to come forward
>chalks it up to a skill issue for children who can't speak up for themselves in abusive situations, where threats of further violence if the child tells anyone tend to occur leading to the victim to stay silent hence why a lot of cases involving child abuse tend to involve third parties
Okay, at this point I'm going to assume you're spiritually a moid stroking itself off because that's repugnant and vile.(infight bait)

No. 3026759>>3026767>>3026779

>>3026751
It's a THREE digit number. Also you can just say you support homewrecking bippies lol.

No. 3026767>>3026772>>3026777>>3026779>>3027589>>3089581

>>3026759
>homewrecking bippies
Nonna's Nigel probably groomed a minor and now we've all gotta endure her rants about how abused children are lying sluts

No. 3026772>>3026779>>3026800>>3027589

>>3026767
True. I'm getting a "those perverted children probably liked being sexually abused, otherwise they'd just report their parents" vibe from her.

No. 3026776>>3027589

>>3026636
i hope you never have daughters, youd definitely blame them for being raped

No. 3026777>>3027589

>>3026767
ngl I assume this every time someone gets uppity about children and sex accusations. I knew one woman who would go on rants about how high school girls dressed and claim that they lied about rape accusations, and all I could do is sit and think "Okay lady, which of your sons raped somebody? It had to be one of them."

No. 3026779>>3026789>>3027589

>>3026759
>two kids having school notice and help them get away from a fucking PEDOPHILE stepdad = evil bpds homewrecking an innocent relationship
Hm
Anyway I'm assuming you're baiting but really to your other points… BPD is half genetic/inherited yes but never in cases like this, it wouldn't even be valid in kids like her and her sister?
>>3026772
>>3026767
What if it's that nona's mom/mom's bf kek

No. 3026789

>>3026779
To be honest, when nona said
>You realize if she was bippie then so were you too? Self own.
who gives a shit? It wasn't like her post was defending BPD or her BPD mother. Her post was describing how her mother was a piece of shit because of her BPD and how it led to sexual abuse.

No. 3026795>>3027589

>>3026728
A kid cannot comprehend it and you can't expect a kid to, that's why they are such easy targets for freaks. Not every kid understands it's wrong because it trusts older people/family members. they lack reference points that come with brain function. Blaming a 9 year old for not picking up the phone is ridiculous, people can go through years of abuse not understanding said abuse, or being so afraid that they don't feel like they can turn anywhere. You probably also think kidnapped children should just walk away if the door is open, it's unfortunately not that easy because if it was, then all kids would call services or tell someone and abuse wouldn't go on for years on end. There are plenty of cases of victims staying with their abuser for years even in their 20s and they are not to blame either, there are all sorts of psychological factors and Stockholm syndrom

No. 3026797

>>3026710
I'm gonna happily whiteknight bippies here then, many ARE victims of abuse in childhood and it's why they're so fucked up. Is the crap they do to others bad? Yes, obviously. But does it mean they deserve or wanted it? Also obviously not. What in the strange black and white thinking do you have?

No. 3026800>>3027589

>>3026772
I genuinely can't think of another explanation for her logic
>BPDchans are evil incarnate, but you're also definitely lying about being abused by one
>You're lying about being abused by a moid but you're ALSO an evil hypersexual pervert who enjoyed it…but it also didn't happen
>It's actually more mentally ill to talk about your abuse than to enact it!

No. 3026830

>>3026636
I'm just looking back at this and I don't get what your beliefs are. You claim they're liars, but also say they're dumb for not reporting it meaning you believe it at least happened…?

No. 3026845>>3026859>>3027008

Anyway on topic mods don't ban me I'm not trying to start an infight but whatever it is that some /g/fags have. That weird mix of body dysmorphic disorder, racism (not really a mental disorder but correlated with) and narcissism where they think the entire world focuses on tiny details about appearance nobody notices, either on themselves or projected on others. Ugly thread, ideal body thread, plastic surgery thread, sometimes diet and fitness and the shilled women thread.
Like… get a job or something, holey shit? I couldn't imagine being so nuts to be able to notice half the weird vindicta pol adjacent shit they claim to notice and hate about themselves (or others).

No. 3026859>>3026861

>>3026845
It's either women hating others or moids telling us to botch ourselves, they just feed each other. Most of the advice in g is unhinged and I wouldn't listen to anything appearance wise.

No. 3026861>>3026875>>3027003

>>3026859
It feels like women who grew up on 4chud internalizing the shit moids sperg about women 24/7 there tbh. It's the most depressing thing

No. 3026875>>3026886

>>3026861
It's very sad indeed and they don't listen to other girls either. The few that posted their pictures looked completely normal but ignored every reply that stated that and didn't recommend a lefort 5 or whatever. I get that ai/filters wraps everyones perspective now but if you are such a handmaiden that you want to reconstruct your body and face for a moid then you will realize that trends change all the time and someone else's features don't fit a persons' face structure and it leads to other problems that's why the majority of people never stop at one single procedure and they will never be happy because it's an internal unhappiness that cannot be fulfilled by external work

No. 3026878>>3026952>>3027589

>>3026636
Are you the mom?

No. 3026886

>>3026875
>they don't listen to other girls either
I wanna have sympathy but they're so vile to other girls too for being normal. I get they feel misunderstood and when you're really down in the dumps, a normie saying you're normal and fine probably sounds super generic, but they really don't have to seethe so hard with nasty racebait and moidtier bs

No. 3026952

>>3026878
I think it could be kek like why would she (assuming it's a she) reply to a post from 2 months ago in such specific fashion

No. 3027000

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>PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)
unless you're 10 years old in an IEP, I won't hear it. I don't care what it's called, I don't care how you feel. I need you to pull your weight in this friendship/relationship/job. Or I'm dropping you. I absolutely refuse to make accommodations for that. Find your own way if you must, but I am not enabling your continued pathological avoidance of random bullshit we all have to do every fucking day.

No. 3027003

>>3026861
not to blog but yes that was exactly what happened to me. getting offline and making female friendships with women who uplift you basically cured my bdd. like another woman said here more of them need to listen to women not neurotic porn addicted hateful scrotes.

No. 3027008>>3027014

>>3026845
Smells more like someone you could be complaining about in /meta/ than here ngl. Like most of that shit is less mental disorders and more social contagions, no? Not saying you're not onto something just that it feels weirdly off topic and vague.

No. 3027014>>3027020

>>3027008
Social contagions lead to or are made by mental disorders. Either way BDD is a diagnosis and so is NPD?

No. 3027020


No. 3027142>>3027634>>3028876>>3031088

Honestly, autism. Sorry I can't pretend to tolerate autistic people anymore. I will be polite but I do not like them. I think more caring normies should mingle with the autists but I'm not that caring so if someone is being even slightly annoying or missing social cues or sperging hard or conversely, one of the stone cold silent autists, they are just never going to be my friend and that's okay. I have little patience for them and I find them to be quite narcissistic and exhausting.

No. 3027589

>>3026767
>Nigel
Kek everything is about Nigels to you. Sorry to break it to ya but not everyone does stuff because of a Nigel but hey only a thief thinks everyone else steals!
>groomed a minor
Can you normies go back to twitter or tiktok with this retarded speak?
>>3026795
Stockholm syndrome isn't real. Try again
>>3026772
Didn't say they liked it sweetheart, just that they were retarded. Again none of you autists can comprehend the simplicity of a 3 digit number
>>3026776
>>3026777
I don't have kids retard and even if I did they'd be raised better than your collective intelligence. Sorry you're retarded.
>>3026800
You need to be put in a special nursing home if that's what you read.
>>3026779
Was he really a pedophile tho, think about it
>>3026878
No but if I was I'd be suing for defamation as I'd deserve.(bait)

No. 3027627

>>3022874
anime lacks subtlety and hand holds the viewer. Characters emotes with eeeeeh and aaaaah sound effects, sad scenes is accompanied with a sappy music piece, characters will narrate their big feelings via a voice-over.
Lots of anime use the same stock sound effects and expressions and autists love familiarity.
But mostly I think its because otaku culture glorify an asocial lifestyle were you consoom.
The

No. 3027634>>3027674>>3029847>>3031088

>>3027142
Unless they’re particularly annoying, I don’t see why someone being a bit awkward is such a big deal. Especially if it’s just a passing interaction, You call them narcissistic but you sound a bit too focused on other people yourself

No. 3027674

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>>3027634
narcissists are hypersensitive to social rejection to the point of seeing social rejection where it isn't there, so they would be bothered by the lack of mirroring by autists.

No. 3028876>>3029882

>>3027142
They are. It's not conscious like actual narcs but it's there for sure. Like they already struggle with empathy and can be quite self centred and rigid with their views, which is tiring to deal with

No. 3029106>>3029852>>3030492>>3030643

In the coverage of whoever that woman is that got an abortion for a downs syndrome fetus I'm seeing a lot of comments talk about how autism is even worse because you can't predict how bad it will be and they could be dependent on you for life. Are people forgetting what downs syndrome is actually like because it's rarer now? I think people are exclusively picturing the downs kids of very wealthy families, like that one that got supported through law school, without really thinking about the reality of it.

No. 3029822

>>3022874
I hate how japan and other asian countries are essentially just magnets for incels which sucks because they have absolutely splendid cultures yet only lure in pornsick moids.

No. 3029847

>>3027634
Autism is fucking annoying and nonas should absolutely stop trying to defend it in this thread every post. That'd be real cool.

No. 3029852>>3030118>>3030647

>>3029106
Your average autist who's fussy about food and has a special interest is obviously far better than down syndrome. But severe autism is a non-verbal, aggressive/violent, can't be toilet trained, needs 24/7 care kind of disability. Based on temperament I'd honestly prefer a happy, lovable downie with high medical needs who needs constant care than a severe autist who also needs constant care.

Though if you're talking specifically about the fetus, down syndrome can be detected in utero and aborted if you want but you can't do that with autism. So if you have to pick a fetus with one or the other, again I would absolutely prefer downs.

No. 3029882>>3030545

>>3028876
Not what narcissism means retard

No. 3030118>>3030148

>>3029852
Most people with down-syndrome are not ‘happy and loveable’, they’re just as aggressive, low-iq and prone to violence as low-functioning autists.

No. 3030148>>3030271

>>3030118
I haven't had that experience. They're usually very placid.

No. 3030149>>3030459

Why do bippies never show any interest in anyone but themselves? They want everyone else to invest in their problems but when you tell them about yours it's literally whatever couldn't care less your not my responsibility etc

No. 3030271>>3030281

>>3030148
They definitely can be, plus they’re often sexually aggressive as well.

No. 3030281>>3030285

>>3030271
Well my experience with downies is when we were kids so that wouldn't be a factor. I think any mental disability can get aggressive easily, because they don't know how to communicate when they're upset about something

No. 3030285

>>3030281
It’s certainly a factor when they hit puberty. None of these issues are unique to people with down syndrome, but it’s tiring when people act like they’re nothing but a bunch of overgrown puppies who are endlessly sweet and loving.

No. 3030459

>>3030149
I don't know, because they typically claim up and down they're empathetic, they're psychic, they're an "empath" etc. But they seem to have no idea why the shit that they say and do pisses people off and makes people feel insecure, sad, or uncomfortable. It's just like their ego is constantly a second away from injury and it hurts them to think about someone else.

No. 3030492

>>3029106
>Are people forgetting what downs syndrome is actually like because it's rarer now?
That must be it. Or they've never met anyone with it and always assumed based on weird religious propaganda or parents trying to cope with their ds kids that if you suffer from ds you just look a little weird and you have a childish but very nice and cheerful personality and that's it.

No. 3030545>>3031098>>3031265

>>3029882
and? it is still self centred and annoying to deal with. why is it whenever autism gets brought up all the triggered autists come in to defend their bullshit, it really says something kek

No. 3030643

>>3029106
A down kid is like a level 4 autistic kid. Cut the stem before it grows and abort.

No. 3030647

>>3029852
You don’t know anyone with Down syndrome do you? Kek. They aren’t lovable.

No. 3031068

I don't hate it, but it just makes me so very sad. After my mom escaped her abusive marriage with my dad she developed some pretty severe black-and-white paranoia that he's out to get her with every breathing moment. When she sought legal help, the lawyer said she had to be impartial and objective even if she believed my mom, because that's just how the law works, but my mom took impartiality as a sign the lawyer was secretly hired/bribed by my dad to harm her (black and white thinking I think). She managed to eventually calm down, but yeah.
I can't blame her one bit considering what he did. She's fucking terrified, I would be even more paranoid tbh. But it's just sad altogether.

No. 3031088>>3031285

>>3027634
>>3027142
The autistic people I've known never seemed narcissistic at a surface level, besides a family member I've always known, but they have since been some of the most arrogant people I've ever met. Their self importance is borderline delusional at times. People actually debate that autistics are the better, more evolved people likely for this very reason. You have to accept it's a part of "who they are" even though these same people have the ability to think deeply if it isn't about themselves and how they treat people. There's a massive difference between being "a bit awkward" (which used to be something anyone could be and plenty of autistic people are not only that) and having zero concept of how you are absolutely a prick for blantantly acting like everyone is lesser than you. You are not superior for not being influenced by ads or being good at rhythm games. Was this shit caused by the internet? Two people in particular I knew didn't have great family lives so I can't imagine their shitty parents telling them they were exceptional due to their differences. Funny how extremely social justice these people tend to be, yet they act like eugenicists.

No. 3031098

>>3030545
>>triggered autists come in to defend their bullshit

NTA. But I don't. I just bide my time and complain about bippies, narcs, or druggies, kek.

No. 3031157>>3031265>>3031472>>3031594

Starting to get irritated by Autism. I have a mental Illness myself however the people I love in my life have autism that's untreated with behavior that was never corrected. Meaning their parents never disciplined these things. Just some brief examples

>They say fucking mean things and don't realize it.

>They get very antsy for trivial things like waiting in line. Even when it's necessary
>Calling them out for saying the mean stuff but they don't stop and keep going
>I try so hard to cater to their food preferences, every single time it's not good enough. I swear if I had a gluten free everything quirky friend I would be considerate but the constant rejection makes me at my limit
>They treat me like I'm their parent. I'm not your parent I'm your friend.
>Tried to host activities for my party and they decided to get everyone to do something else in my own house
>No situational awareness
>Niche interests are usually the only things they'll talk about
>Constantly nonverbal and I'm stuck talking to a wall
>Sometimes they ask me "why did I say that if it was rude" and they expect me to spoon-feed them a reason
>I have to constantly repeat myself to them and by the 90th time they still don't know what I said but bring it up 6 months from now on a Wednesday at 4pm but it was important 6 months ago

I'm sure I have my quirks I don't realize. But I am at my breaking point. I'm a woman child myself I'm not mentally equipped to be someone's new mother

No. 3031265>>3031537>>3031604

>>3030545
>why is it whenever autism gets brought up all the triggered autists come in to defend their bullshit
By your own logic, shouldn't she have NPD? Or do you just have a hateboner against autists?
>>3031157
I'm so sorry you have to deal with that. Just know that if you decide to end the friendship, it's more than understandeable. Autism doesn't go away, so you can't just wait for your friend(s?) to get better. I don't know you of course but judging by that post alone, I'd say you should put yourself first and break things off.(are you lost?)

No. 3031285

>>3031088
i wonder if this is a problem especially with early diagnosed autists since they are likely to get coddled (for lack of better term) by their parents/peers? i'm late diagnosed and i can't stand autists who talk about how they are so special and unique and smart and just Built Different (tm) and give entire light yagami level speeches about how they hate small talk or something. like sometimes i get stumped during small talk and feel like i failed a social interaction but i still understand the meaning of small talk. and sometimes i genuinely don't mind talking about the weather or something. i feel like a lot of early diagnosed autists are just lazy and make no effort to at least learn some social skills. instead they reeee about masking and ableism.

No. 3031324>>3031583

Autists can be really annoying but bippies are worse. Both are different from narcissism though.

No. 3031472

>>3031157
I'd go insane if I had to do so much for someone, let alone multiple people, and didn't get at the very least consistently good conversations back. You don't deserve to have to put up with that much for friendship, it doesn't matter what your situation is. Do you feel pressured to stay friends with them for some reason? I sincerely hope you find better friends to enjoy time with because that's not fair to you at all, that's got to be harmful to your mental health.

No. 3031537>>3031673

>>3031265
>Or do you just have a hateboner against autists?
You motherfuckers are so fucking retarded oh my god. nta but read the thread title for fuck's sake. MENTAL ILLNESSES YOU CAN'T STAND(infighting)

No. 3031583>>3031692

>>3031324
I still don't see how, the diagnosed bippies I've met thought that their feelings were objectively correct and trumped everything else going on around them.

No. 3031594>>3031649>>3031664

>>3031157
There's no treatment for autism. It's very understandable to not want to hang around autists, but you also shouldn't think that there's something they could do to be better or different because that's not how that works. You wouldn't say that a paraplegic is just not trying hard enough to walk.

No. 3031604>>3031673

>>3031265
No…? What are you on kek, when did anyone bring up NPD?

No. 3031610>>3031692>>3032127

Wish autists weren't so whiteknighted. They literally have a deficit in empathy and understanding of others in their diagnostic criteria. Remember that. It's pretty obvious how that would make relationships with others hurtful for the other person.
And the mad autists ITT have that empathy deficit really showing in how they attack anyone using the thread for its intended purpose. Maybe learn to understand how others can be hurt by your behavior first.

No. 3031649

>>3031594
I loathe this comparison. Sure, they fall under the wide umbrella of "disability", but you're a fool to think that because there's no cure, there's no "treatment". In fact, both paraplegia and autism have their own therapy and supportive treatments. The goal is to increase and maximize their quality of life. The anon you replied to referred to the autistic person as "untreated with behavior that was never corrected". Behavior could have been altered positively, ergo the various therapies that they offer autistic people to integrate themselves into the world the best they can and support them so they aren't constantly alienating themselves from society and can access the same resources everyone else can. Yeah, there are things that autists could "do better" because every autist is an individual with their own deficits and strengths.

No. 3031664

>>3031594
NTA but I absolutely would judge if a paraplegic friend slacked on their physical therapy and then got mad at me when I didn't want to transfer them from their wc (closest equivalent to an autist insisting everyone needs to just let them be antisocial retards). most disabilities can be treated to minimize the amount of harm or inconvenience that is caused to the disabled person and everyone around them. we autists are not immune to needing to work on ourselves. every human on this planet needs to work on themselves, that's how we grow.

No. 3031673

>>3031537
>tard rage fit
I expect posts here to have content rather than irrational sperging. You know, experiences? Anons who actually have something to say?
>>3031604
She brought up narcissism. NPD is about narcissism.

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>>3031583
>>3031610
Autists are born without cognitive empathy which is different from emotional empathy, they're not like narcissist they are capable of genuine guilt and remorse and genuinely care about the feelings of other people, they just have no clue if what they're going to say will upset other people because they can't understand other people's reactions or why someone else would be upset by what they say (autism = self focus, they develop their own way of thinking and believe it is better than anyone else's). The crucial fact is they think their way of thinking is better than other people's, not that they personally are better than other people, which is what narcissists believe. They develop a moral code independently of other people but often it is not grandiose and can even be self chastising. Some autists think it makes them automatically better then other people but they're by no means the majority. Most are very sad and insecure, and ashamed of who they are because of what happens to them due to their self focus. But again it's crucial to seperate self focus which Autists have, from self importance and entitlement which narcissists have. A person can also be simultaneously autistic and narcissistic but its not common. Autism is also present from birth and caused by genetics/prenatal factors not environment.

Bippies on the other hand are always, always products of a really fucked up home life when they were children, and they are made not born. Unlike Autists who usually don't want attention they're actively attention seeking, constantly change from topic to topic, and have constantly different views depending on who's around them, as they had no stability in childhood. This in a way makes them almost the opposite of Autists, who have extremely rigid beliefs about themselves, others, and the world, more rigid than normal people. Bippies on the other hand have extremely flexible beliefs (or no real beliefs at all) about themselves, others, and the world, and will always just adopt the belief systems of those around them which is why all bippies are dishonest, hypocritical, unpredictable and insincere. However they're not the same as narcissists, as despite all this they are still capable of caring for other people, but they are much more self absorbed with their own drama than Autists who tend to internalise it and don't like talking about it to others because they find it embarrassing.

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>>3031692
This is also why those with BPD are attracted to autists and why autists tend to become a bippie's FP very quickly (and shortly after, their favorite enemy). Autists have a strong worldview and strong sense of self, which is something that BPD takes away from a person, and those with BPD think that they can replace their lacking sense of self with an autist's sense of self. They can't, of course, and the sad part is that they inevitably learn that they have even more trouble relating to autists than regular normal people do and that an autist's way of being will never work for them.

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>>3031692
No one cares about your wking infodump on how they're supposedly better than narcs. So what if they somehow feel bad, they are annoying and can be nuisances on others with their behavior. Go back to your own thread.

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>>3031720
I just knew some retard would bitch and moan despite it literally just being an info post
>>3031692
Thank you, this actually adds insight to these posts

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>>3031698
Yes every bippie has a pet autist kek and they always fall out with each other, bippies are also quite likely to control and abuse Autists as Autists often have very few friends, become attached to the bippie, know all their friends through the bippy and are dependent on them. Bippies never make friends with each other because they would fall out in about 3 seconds, and Autists don't often make friends or relationships with each other because they're too shy.
Truthfully I don't hate bippies, because they're not to blame for how annoying and dishonest they are, but they are a pain in the arse. But normally they've been through something awful which is why they behave that way. I wouldnt say they're incapable of remorse or cruel just very self centred and want everything to be about them

No. 3031747>>3031786

Another thing I've noticed just as how autists are liable to being exploited by bippies is bippies are very liable to being exploited by genuine narcissists because they have this extreme desire for love bombing and praise that narcissists are very good at offering. Autists are quite immune to this because their rigid sense of beliefs means they usually find there's something weird and off-putting about the narcissist quite early on, as opposed to bippies who's lack of any rigid thoughts whatsoever makes them especially vulnerable. However bippies like to be around Autists as they want someone who can dump all their time and attention onto them (which Autists will do, due to a low amount of relationships and a level of desperation and loneliness), and Autists at least initially like being around bippies because they're the only people who will pay them any attention, most normals just ignore autists.

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>>3031692
>>3031741
It's like when those mind-controlling parasites take over an animal and turn it into a zombie servant

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>>3031748
Ehh sort of, but it's very unintentional on the part of the bippies, who are just as sad and desperate as the Autists at the end of the day. Autists also will not change their core personality or opinions to appease the bippies (or anyone) which is often what eventually leads to the bippies removing them.

Another funny thing about bippies is that without fail every single one of them hates every other bippie they know. They have a very naturally antagonistic personality.

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>>3031747
kek, you just described my workplace situation during the last two years. glad I quit that job but now I wonder if the bippie and the narc I left behind are going to destroy each other?

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>>3031692
Not to white knight but I really appreciate the info dump. Thanks nonna.

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>>3031786
Are you the autistic then or just a normie? My bippie friend was very close friends with a narc for a couple years and then the narcissist harassed her for years after they fell out. Even making a fake dating profile of her with sexually humiliating language. Bippies are a nightmare but narcs are infinitely worse because unlike bippies they don't have a non self serving bone in their body. With bippies it's almost as if they want to be able to care about others but can't, but narcs genuinely don't gaf. I honestly envy those who think that bippies or Autists or whatever are narcs because they clearly haven't met an actual narcissist lol they are a lot worse

No. 3031830>>3031863

Another big difference between the three is manipulation. One reason it's so rare for Autists to be narcs is because it's virtually impossible for Autists to manipulate anybody, they are too straightforward and socially stupid to be able to do that. Bpd can manipulate but almost to the point where they believe the manipulative things they are saying, they manipulate out of fear and a genuine belief if they don't noone will care about them. Then narcs just manipulate cynically to get what they want from people

I'll stop info dumping/sperging now.

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>>3031830
my particular ick is actually women who are low empathy but not autistic trying to claim an autism diagnosis when they are the most triangulation obsessed insecure women i’ve ever met and it’s like no. sorry. we aren’t doing this. going from being a bitch who insults others for not having a spine to tell her no when they have a problem with her aggressive behavior, who is unbearable when the attention is not on her in group settings and constantly “stirring the pot” to “actually i’m autistic” when they cause enough social issues to be called out is disgusting. especially when they have literally no empathy for “friends of theirs” who have something like literal cerebral palsy and a limp then want to turn around and play victim for orchestrating a fight with the specific intention of getting closer to a man.

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>>3031863
I need to hear more about your this fauxtistic you know, please and thank you.

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>>3031692
>ackshually we are sooo different, not like those evil ones! praise us! we're actually their helpless slaves!
You're all just as bad as each other kek. You all should be locked away from the rest of functional society so you can happily abuse each other to your heart's content. It's really telling when you feel the need to act like you're not as bad(bait)

No. 3031982>>3031999

Male BDD, lol.
Moids claim that women love to nitpick each other and fight each other, but I've never and I mean never seen any women act like they do. Not even the most insane BDD/anachans/narc women. Go to ANY moid-centered fitness or ""getting better"" group, whether it online or real life kek, they nitpick each other on the strangest features and sperg about muscle and fat and bone and genes and pseudochemistry and god knows what that not even beauty contest judges would even notice. Just reading through one page made me feel like their mento illness was leaking out

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>>3031893
NTA, but if you’re on this website I don’t think you’re as “normal”, perfect and well-adjusted as you see yourself, but I’ll leave it there

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>>3031982
Insecure bpd men really do care about the dumbest shit

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>>3031999
Men in general, not a disorder. They are the disorder lol

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>>3031893
I'm not retarded enough to get how that's supposed to be WKing, or indicate she's sick herself. Or maybe, just maybe, she just knows more than you and has something to offer itt.
>>3031997
I don't think she's necessarily sick, but she definitely has low intelligence. Info posts fly over her head completely and she registers them as the anon having autism/bpd herself and defending it, all because she's not explicitly saying she's against the two.
>>3031805
Seconding this. Info =/= WKing

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>>3032002
nta but if so then it just doesn't belong here, post it in the autists thread to support them if they've been victimised by a bpd then or something, it wouldn't fit anyway

No. 3032051

i don't know if it's mental illness or what but the kinds of people who just won't let go of their psychosexual hangups, you know the type. the traumacore BDSM channer type. talks about stupid shit like putting out cigarettes on others completely seriously as if it doesn't make them look retarded, abuses substances performatively, seeks attention with everything they do. the people who are obsessed with sex and violence and all kinds of depravity, the ones that wallow in trauma (that often isn't even there, it's just a narrative they cling to to give some kind of meaning to their pathetic larp) and don't realize how pathetic they're being. nobody actually finds their self destructiveness hot, mysterious or interesting like they're hoping for, from the outside it's just deeply pathetic. people stick around them either out of pity or to take advantage of their sheer stupidity.

in hindsight maybe i could've just said BPD. it's gotta be BPD isn't it?

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>>3032025
What for? To tell them what they already know? Half of that post is explaining autism, and again, stating facts isn't support. As someone who has been abused by someone with bipolar, I'd find it cool if someone helped me understand how they tick. Not even to excuse the abusive behavior, just to help me make sense of wtf happened to me. And yeah they'd probably appreciate getting that for bippies who fucked them over but why wouldn't we benefit from the same type of post then (but with both bippies AND autists)?

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>>3032059
>what they already know
Who says they do? Maybe they don't, I'm just suggesting it's better there for support. I get what you mean but in here it's kinda off topic

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>>3032060
>who says they do
Ayrt I was going to answer "because it's explained by the professionals who diagnose them during the diagnosis sessions" but then I thought, kek as if most people who claim they have autism even have a diagnosis… So yeah fair

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>>3032062
oh nvm I thought you meant the part explaining how autists are easy targets for bippies, not the simple autism explanation, which yeah wouldn't be explained by their psychs first diagnosis lol. but fair

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>>3031610
The fact that they physically can't learn is even more of propf as to why they are a blight to humanity. They're broken creatures and the numbers of them and their LARPing fans should really be studied and probably a cure should be sought out. Embracing it is one thing, but it really feels like autism is gaining traction with their misplaced aense of NLOG. Don't even get me started on how they think they can puppet "neurotypical" people. Christ on a motor bike.
I really wanted to understand them at a point. I wanted to whiteknight them even because developmental disorders aren't things you can prevent, probably. They can't help it and the world is already cruel enough. But oh my god when these fucking things show their true colors it's no wonder some of the worst evils out there exist; they're the ones behind it. Weirdass fetishists and nasty subhumans often times are autistic. Hm. I wonder why that is.

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>>3032127
A lot of autistic women are straight up misogynists too

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The only people who don't hate bippies are people who never had to put up with one.

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In the end, I've come to realize that it is easier than ever to see who has autism even online. The ones that are trying to mask and seem normal immediately blow up the second you mention that autism is fucking annoying or detrimental in any way. Suddenly
>People are here to vent and some also have traumatic experiences, do not nitpick about "But the DSM V says-", don't care, no one here has the power to change the whole diagnostic world so a nobody on the internet isn't gonna change anything, plus most of the times official papers are unreliable so don't take that as the mental illness bible and don't use that against nonnies.
doesn't apply to them because their mental illness, I'm sorry I mean developmental problem, is super special. They're just different. In order to complain, you have to jump through hoops to qualify for if you even have any substance behind your complaint. Venting? No, no, you need to have an actual example of you being annoyed by it or inconvenienced. And even then, we must break down autism and how they struggle into digestible chunks to justify their inability to function. Bippies and narcissists? Nah, they're universally agreed upon that they're just intolerable. Very cute. Autism isn't even that bad! Only in men, see. Only in men is it a problem.
Autists can't even self reflect, it's looking like. I mean god damn.
>autists are NOT narcisitic. [insert highly technical comparison]
Imagine if we got this response in the dog hate thread. I don't touch the place, but if someone gave a technical explanation behind the behavior of a pitbull, I guaran-goddamn-tee you it'd be not only red texted, but laughed out of the thread.
Curious.

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>>3032632
They lack empathy and sympathy (it is quite literally within their diagnostic criteria and part of an initial evaluation, but they're too dumb to get that). That's why. They hear any story about autism and have to bring up how they grew up and how they struggled and how they totally don't mean it and how they got diagnosed at the age of 20 and 4 months in the state of Florida. It's always me me me with them. Failed narcs. They are bad at introspection due to their alexithymia, it's why they can't self reflect ever.

No. 3032664

Autistic women can be some of the worst misogynists ever tbh. The black and white thinking explains it all. And they ALWAYS have to excuse it with how their mom or sister or aunt was bad or they had bad relationships with girls like plenty of other women had this experience too but they didn't turn out to become vile misogynists? Women aren't a single monolith and they understand that because they get nuance and can think further than a straight line.
There is a reason a significant amount of them TIF out. It's sad but it's true. "Neurotypical" women may feel not girly or have a similar dose of trauma that leads there, but do it at lesser rates on average because they tend to not have the black and white thinking and misogyny that catalyzes actually tiffing out.

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>>3032646
>alexithymia
Hey wait a minute. I've never heard of this term but it seems to describe exactly what I was thinking.
It reminds me a time some autistic guy had this hate boner for me online. I was trying to tell some teenager that their period symptoms (probably PMDD) were something to see a doctor about and that she shouldn't feel guilty because of the bullying she received. I told her it wasn't fair and that life makes some of us its punching bags, and the guy cut in saying something along the lines of
>some people are permanently on their periods because they're always huge nasty bitches
VC got very quiet and I think one of the other guys in the call went after him about how insensitive it was. And funny enough, what happened? The autistic guy didn't get it and immediately backpeddaled into how he was such a victim of everyone being mean to him and how hard his life was.

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>>3032632
>I've come to realize that it is easier than ever to see who has autism even online
This reminds me of the dozens of posts here in which anons start complaining about something in their personal life or job or school, I started assuming they're autistic because they did or say something retarded that caused these situations in the first place, and in the middle or the end of these posts they add that they're autistic. Like I don't know, maybe start with that? Since this is the reason why you behave in a way that makes you a friendless loser whose coworkers can't stand anymore, clearly.

>Autism isn't even that bad! Only in men, see. Only in men is it a problem.

The anons saying this are all coping. Maybe this is true for the least severe cases that make patients just socially awkward but the girls and women are nearly just as bad as the boys and men. I wouldn't want to have a violent shit smearing screeching non verbal daughter just the same way I wouldn't want a violent shit smearing screeching non verbal son. I've had one female autistic classmate in middle school and several make autistic classmates later and the girl was a dangerous violent tard in comparison who once beat up someone for no reason during recess out of nowhere in a way that made him pass out. I don't want to be beaten up like this by any retard regardless of if they're male or female. The boys weren't as bad and were just creepy and annoying without sending anybody to the hospital.

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>>3032856
Tards are genuinely scary in a physical fight. Babies lack fine motor skills, so when they put their strength into something they put their whole bodies into it rather than specific coordinated limbs, and that's the similar case with grown speds. Severe autists literally lack motor skills, it's in their evaluations. It's like fighting a giant baby and doesn't help that a lot of them have bad eating habits and are obese. inb4 some anon gets uppity about me being "weak" or something kek that is not the point.

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>>3032948
Almost all the autists I've seen irl, unfortunately too many, are also way taller than average on top of being obese or almost obese. The only exceptions are two women who were still overweight but had an average height and they weren't the violent type of spergs, more like the socially awkward, depressed, no empathy SJW straight out of tumblr type. It's like the more violent they are, the more their bodies are optimized to beat the fuck out of random people who don't even look in their general direction.

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>>3032856
>The anons saying this are all coping
Maybe they're trying to be nice about it, but they're still wrong. Even when it's high-functionning autism, it's hard to live with for both the autist and the people around her, despite her not being a moid. Might be off-topic for this thread but I hate when assholes like Sia say autism is just a "difference" and "like a superpower", as if it didn't require accomodations and for some parents to have to give up having a life to be their child's caretaker even in their adulthood
>>3032948
>>3033005
The second anon here is talking about her personal experience, but the thing is, I remember "tard strength" being in tons of classic 4troon greentexts. It's definitely a common thing. The coordination thing explains the strength but why are they so fucking big ontop of that? They put all their points in physical stats and none in the intelligence stat I guess. You know those retarded memes by autism fakers that go "God gave me anime autism instead of math autism teehee"? I'd love a version that goes "Tfw God gave me the sensitive to light autism instead of tard strength autism" That'd be authentic at least kek

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>>3033022
They have poor impulse control and struggle with balanced diets due to their need for repetition and sensory processing. They often end up eating slop like pizza and chicken nuggets all day every day

No. 3034160>>3034173>>3034182>>3034227

Any kind of mental retardation. I'm not talking about dumb people or lazy people than can develop critical thinking in the right environment, I'm talking about retarded people that just flap arms, groan like ghouls or just say the same two words over and over and scream. Everytime I see an adult and they are screaming or flapping around, to me it sits like in uncanny valley. I also hate how everyone around them copes and copes BAD. No argument is legit.
>"They know no evil!"
Because they are not capable of deeper feelings, their brain goes "this person feeds me? Good. I like this person"
>"They love unconditionally!"
See above
>"They are not ungrateful like those damn normal kids!"
Ok you narc fuck that only wants to interact with powerless people kek you're weird! If you cannot handle conflict, you're weird!
>"They are always happy!"
And? Being always happy is an anomaly. If you feed them and keep them safe that's the only feeling they can compute. Literal newborns can feel when the mother is stressed, they can't even do that.
I'm especially angry at this because we were doing great with consent talk and it magically doesn't apply to retarded people.
I don't care if your adult son or retarded brother is "good", if it hugs me randomly when we are in the streets, I'll hit it, no matter how many kind words you tell me, no matter how many "he means no harm!" or "he likes you!", it's a stranger and I don't like to be disturbed by it. One time I was out in the city and a tard kept asking me my name and age, name and age, name and age, over and over, and its caretaker went "he wants to know because thats how his brain processes new information!" and? That's your job to educate them to society if you make it go out. You have to teach them that eloping randomly and then stopping people to annoy them over and over it's a no-no. You don't make people their teacher because that might scare people. I am a petite woman, if a man runs to me doing that "euheuehueheuh" laugh I WILL scream. And you will not make me feel guilty about it or mean.
>"But they don't know!"
Then don't make them go out. You may never know if they approach another, maybe violent tard, that registers that as a threat and beats them. What will you do, then? Try to separate the tard fight?
I might seem too mean but I have no patience with them and I don't believe that elder adults with a tard son are not tired.
My brain sees them as aliens, something that has the face of a human but lacks everything that makes them a person.
I wish it was legal to put them out of misery because their whole life is basically being an eternal newborn that needs food and diapers or at best, a toddler that's always on his first day on two legs and then hoping they pass in a peaceful way. If life is quality and not quantity, they are only alive because it makes their narc parents and caretakers feel good so it's never about them, be human and be kind to them by not letting them suffer, if the mental retardation can be spotted in utero as a consequence of a genetic anomaly.

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>>3034160
They know no evil is all fine and dandy until they injure or rape someone and can't be punished, and the victims are just told to suck it up because
>it's not his fault he didn't mean to bash your head against a wall until you pass out and doesn't know what rape even is
and then the tard is even treated as a poor little victim.

>"he likes you!"

To me this is a threat more than a compliment. I had a tard coworker to fill disability quotas when I worked in retail for longer than planned. I swear the managers always put me in the same tiny section of the store with that tard every single time I worked there while other coworkers were rotating until I quit just just because he liked me, so I was paid minimum wage to babysit a retard who smelled like shit and made work harder than it already was on top of dealing with the most ghetto costumers in the entire planet. That tard wasn't non verbal but he was acting like a kindergarten kid, and even then that's an insult to most kids in kindergarten.

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>>3034160
>Ok you narc fuck that only wants to interact with powerless people kek you're weird! If you cannot handle conflict, you're weird!
This. And then their caregivers have the gall to call YOU the narcissist just because you want someone who will actually speak to you and respect you

No. 3034227>>3034255>>3034430

>>3034160
>I am a petite woman, if a man runs to me doing that "euheuehueheuh" laugh I WILL scream.
LC banner material
>>3034173
Speaking of diversity quotas and tards, I cannot for the life of me eat at a restaurant a tard works in. I don't want shit particles in my food. Those gimmick restaurants run by all downie staffs are hell.

Anyone remember that greentext story about tards taking over a Chuck E Cheese, Mongol invasion style?

No. 3034255>>3034430>>3034818>>3035278

>>3034227
I’m a firm believer that making tards work is doing a disservice to everyone. Tards gets deluded into thinking they’re “useful” and everyone else becomes suddenly responsible for them. I get especially angry when tards work at sensitive places like hospitals/clinics or like you said, restaurants.
Once I got really sick and the ER tards couldn’t give me instructions to which way to go, he only repeated “this is the ER!” like thanks, I can read, but which way to the motherfucking nurse office??
What do you mean they can slow down an entire department?? And like you said, to work in restaurants, some basic hygiene and safety course is required, I don’t care if your tard is trained like a good dog, if I see a tard that only breathes with his mouth giving me my food, I’ll never come back. If they are people like everyone else and you think that normal people can be dirty and that’s why they need an hygiene discourse, why do you think a tard is cleaner if they don’t understand the concept of cleaning after themselves? Because they are “good people”? They shit in diapers!
I also don’t buy that working makes them feel better, I think that a lot of people just put tards as a working force so they leave their family alone for one third of the day, I’m 100% sure that no tard said “I want to work out of pure will, I want to put in situations I don’t understand and make people’s lives difficult by not grasping the job position I’m in.”. Just like when child tards get parked into school so their mothers don’t have a meltdown, I also hated as a child hearing those monstrous screams in the hallway, like why do they even go to school for? To color shapes? They can do it at home and not disrupt the quiet of those that need an education

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>>3034227
>>3034255
>I don't want shit particles in my food.
>if I see a tard that only breathes with his mouth giving me my food, I’ll never come back
I was working in retail so this is a bit different but the tard who was always working with me didn't literally smell like shit, I meant to say he smelled really bad in general. He smelled strongly of BO and saliva because just like most tards, he was a mouth breather. Between this, his deformed face and his general behavior I was actually dreading going to work more and more. I swear even being called a whore by deranged male costumers who wanted to use the changing rooms one minute before the store closed but couldn't, these same customers threatening my coworkers and I to beat us up or worse, and seeing a fake customer/actually a secret security employee insulting me in front of everyone and barging in the changing room to gauge my reaction in a big mall inside a big city not long after major terrorist attacks in the country was less anxiety inducing than seeing the tard twice a week and hearing him groan and spit everywhere, when I remember it. Once he was prancing around instead of taking care of customers and putting their things away until they were done trying clothes, and one customers was so annoyed by his shitty attitude she straight up asked are your disabled or something? Well yes, he is, obviously. It took me everything to not reply that in front of my very offended coworkers.

From a different perspective, sometimes we had tards as customers too. Just following their parents, shitting and pissing inside the changing rooms and sometimes having the bright idea of pissing in a bottle or shitting in a plastic bag and not on the floor, and one exasperated mother even made me look for her autistic son in the massive store because he fled at the speed of light and was hiding behind clothes. One less retarded guy allegedly had this nasty habit of always trying the same jeans in the same color to jerk off in the changing room, but it never happened during my shift so I have no idea how severe his retardation was. Most customers were disgusting on purpose and not because they had a disability though.

>Those gimmick restaurants run by all downie staffs are hell.

I know a chain of coffee shops just like that? The workers almost all have downs syndrom, I never went there until recently because the food and drinks didn't appeal to me at all. The one time I went there I was following relatives, and all the customers were acting like
>awww look at all these very happy employees who are working so hard and making themselves useful! how heartwarming
as if they were the woke version of circus freaks, except these workers aren't employees, they have a special status that makes them paid way less than minimum wage and they're not treated very well in some of the locations according to some of these very same workers. They should chill at home and not serve food and drinks after spitting all over them. I might post insulting things here but normies who think women aborting their severely disabled foetus are the devil and exploiting disabled workers like that is morally good aren't any better.

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As a teen I had anxiety issues so bad that they caused me physical pain and sickness. One day I had to be hospitalized in a psych ward for teens because my stomach was killing me and I couldn't keep food or water down anymore. They transported me into the ward using picrel and the nurse left it in a hallway near the lobby (with me still on it) to go do something in the office near the entrance. While I layed there, this unattended mentally disabled kid comes up to me and just starts touching my head like he was prodding at a dead animal or something. I was too dehydrated, hungry and nauseous to do anything about it other than feebly moving my head away, which didn't help. Thankfully the nurse ended up seeing him and told him to stop, but he had still touched me with hands that had been who knows where and, on a more comedic note (I guess), risked getting thrown up on by me
At some point during my stay, I asked why he was there. After all, every kid was staying with the goal of being released sooner or later, and hospitalizing someone for a permanent mental retardation would mean keeping them in forever, which was impossible. I asked a nurse, and she told me that he was there because it was hard for his mother to handle him while having a career. It does make sense for her to leave him with professionals so she can work, but it doesn't make sense to have him stay at a psych ward. There are facilities in my country that specialize in handling people with motor skill retardations, so why not send him there rather than to make mentally ill teens deal with him (and having him take the place of, idk, a suicidal teen who really needed to be in the ward or someone who had been on the waiting list for months)? One of my fellow patients was this girl who had violent outbursts (thankfully she only hit staff, at least that I know of) - what if she had fought that disabled boy? And not to coddle him, but hearing her scream when she had outbursts probably scared him since he didn't understand what was going on.
The worst part was that one of the activities for patients included cooking. Unlike psych wards for adults, you don't get to pick which activities you want, and attendance is always mandatory staff also decides when you go to your room and when you go to the lobby. You can't just go wherever you want. When I say cooking, I do mean cooking from scratch in a little kitchen, not just serving the food like lunch ladies. Whichever 3 patients were selected for kitchen duty that day cooked our dinner, basically. Of course I'm getting at the fact that the mentally disabled boy had to have handled our food at some point, as well as the cutlery and plates. In case you wonder, yes you can wash your hands before cooking, but they don't tell you to do it, and I doubt he ever did it.

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>>3034680
Samefag - I was in another psych ward for teens at a point where my anxiety-induced sicknesses were less severe, and in this one we had more autonomy and only stayed during the day and went home in the late afternoon. One of my fellow patients there was this autistic guy with a slight motor-skill retardation (like aside from the autism) who was definitely not a minor and looked more like a 18-20 year old. He was a tall guy with thick angular glasses, a lazy eye and a 5 o'clock shadow he never shaved clean. He breathed with his mouth and had this look of permanent confusion as his resting face - not that he was actually aloof though, since he could get really petty and argumentative at times, including with me once. His hair was short but bushy (think a bit over 5cm), which just made it all the more obvious that it was really greasy and unkempt, with little strands sticking together. He had cats and dogs at home and always showed up covered in cat hairs. I never saw him wash his hands. I remember all this about him but not his name, kek The worst part about him was his sleeves. They were always - and I mean always - covered with these gross, greenish-yellow crusty stains. It could only be soup or vomit and I refuse to believe the fucker vomited every day and casually wiped his mouth afterwards. I really hope he just had a dinner routine where he always ate soup.
In that psychiatry we also had kitchen duty, but it was more akin to playing lunch ladies than actual cooking. We did, however, have to set the table (it was one big table with assigned seats instead of a lobby with multiple tables like in the other psychiatry, picture the last supper, sperg edition) and so kitchen duty implied touching others' cutlery. That psychiatry was much less professional than the last (and I have my fair share of complaints regarding this, but that would be off-topic) and it almost felt like summer camp, so we socialized more and were generally aware of each-other's schedule, especially since we were pressured by staff to hang out and play whenever we had free time. I always thought to myself, "If that autistic guy's on kitchen duty I'll know it, and I'll just wash my cutlery before eating; everything will be fine".
One time, kitchen duty fags were about to serve lunch and I got to the table early, so I just sat at my assigned seat and waited. Waiting with me were a few others, and among them, him. His seat was right next to the one on my left, and the girl who usually sat in it wasn't there yet. And for some reason, for some god forsaken reason, he just goes and grabs her cutlery by the ends that go into the food. As he holds them, he examines the cutlery around him and looked focused, as if some of the knives and forks were put at the wrong seats and needed to be swapped or something. He then untenses his face and subtly shakes his head as if to say "oh nevermind" and put the girl's cutlery back. That's when I asked myself, how many times did I put forks in my mouth without knowing he had touched them? Why did he even do that? Why did nobody say anything? Why is this fucker even here knowing he's over the age limit for patients?
Side note: long story but one time my group had to go retrieve something from outside the psychiatry, but I was the only one who had nothing on her schedule that morning (we weren't allowed to go anywhere unsupervised). I said I'd wait for my group, but suddenly the autism guy volunteered to accompany me on that impromptu errand despite the cold. He didn't even murder or rape me on the way back, so there's that I guess. At least that…

No. 3034776

>>3034735
>his sleeves. They were always - and I mean always - covered with these gross, greenish-yellow crusty stains
I hate to potentially pile on the gross-out potential here, but that sounds exactly like booger stains.

No. 3034818>>3034879

>>3034255
I can’t help but feel this is a direct consequence of idealizing work. It’s not wholesome or cute to have people in work where they don’t understand the work they’re doing, especially where they struggle with things like basic hygiene and verbal communication. However, it’s seen as peak fulfilment of a mentally disabled existence to be in the workforce, and I don’t understand why. At best, they’re exploited because they earn shit wages for the work they’re doing, and at worst they’re an active disruption to their job that exploits their coworkers who have to constantly be compensating for another person’s mistakes, whilst any work they’re actually doing is still exploited.

I always feel like I’m a really bad person for thinking like this, but I genuinely do think society is at fault. In nature, creatures that aren’t eventually capable of taking care of themselves in independent species are left to die. We’re the only species that decided we would vehemently reject this, likely due to sentimentality. We’re going to desperately keep everyone around us alive no matter what it costs us, and we’re going to make them live in the world until old age needing constant care from birth until death (I feel similarly about old people where their life quality and awareness of what’s happening around them has completely dropped, they are a shell of themselves, yet we desperately keep them alive). I don’t fully understand why. We invest and invest and invest for zero return except ethical superiority. And we’re trying to put these people in as much “real world” situations as possible (no matter if they’re learning anything or not) not their own communities. We can’t even accept them as they are- no mentally retarded person, you can’t play with trucks all day, we need to make you employable! They get treated like overexcited dogs but they still must aspire to employment even if the degree of retardation is so severe they will likely never get a job. It’s cruel to all of us.

No. 3034879>>3035096

>>3034818
>no mentally retarded person, you can’t play with trucks all day, we need to make you employable!
No you're right, this shit is cruel and just another symptom of hyper-capitalistic brainwashing

No. 3035096

>>3034879
I mean, if someone doesn't have to work, I wouldn't want to force them to make them miserable. If they get to just play, good for them you know? In an ideal world, nobody would have to be a wagie… but also, in an ideal world, tards would all be aborted until there are no more

No. 3035099

>>3034680
>>3034735
I had a really shit experience at a psych ward as a teen, so I can relate to this a lot. When I was at a ward, there was a retarded boy similar to the one you described, except he was clearly younger than the other patients, maybe 13 or so. He could only talk about hockey and was clearly autistic, and he was put there for being too violent for his normal tard school. Why they thought the ward was the right place for him I have no idea. We weren't allowed to lock our rooms, despite the fact that the staff had keys, so he kept coming into my room constantly, until I told him I would literally kill him if he did it again, which scared him off, and the staff of course scolded me for "being mean and threatening," no matter what the tard was doing before that. I also witnessed him attack a girl out of the blue, we were sitting in the common room when he ran in, grabbed her by her ears and started yanking them hard, and it took the lazy staff like two minutes to get him off her. It was a shitshow of a place anyway, but the tard made it worse.

No. 3035278>>3035293>>3035318>>3038652

>>3034255
I agree with you but you can’t just make their mothers stay with them 24/7 because they’ll be murder-suicided or abused. People need respite because tards are gross and depressing to be around. There’s retards that work on the checkouts at my local supermarket and they do a good enough job. A little slow but other than that they’re ok. I wouldn’t mind but there’s an unemployment crisis atm and people are having to do 2 or more interviews for the most basic entry level jobs and then they just turn around and give it to a retard. It’s maddening. Only way to really solve the problem is eugenics but that’s obviously deeply frowned upon.

No. 3035293

>>3035278
Do you mean kill them all or stop them being born? Most disorders wont be stopped before birth

No. 3035318

>>3035278
>there’s an unemployment crisis atm and people are having to do 2 or more interviews for the most basic entry level jobs and then they just turn around and give it to a retard. It’s maddening.
Retail anon here, that's exactly how I felt when I saw they hired a retard. Where I live the quotas apply to all disabilities so if you have diabetes or you're deaf or you just need to download a software to help you type because of your dyslexia, or you need a special office chair after your car accident you can be hired in the same pool of job seekers as drooling retards so that pissed me off way more than it should have. I was a poor student back then and once I finally had that job it was already too late to save money and spend it for specific university projects to have more skills and a better resume, because of an economic crisis first and then because of good old racist discrimination and "you don't have experience yet so we can't hire you". Then I see a drooling retard who should stay home got the same job and salary I got? Like at least I could get by with that money and I really needed it to compensate for my scholarship being reduced out of nowhere during my last years in university but everything about it felt like a cosmic punishment for trying to escape poverty. Like you finally have a part time job several years too late even if it sucks? Congrats, after all this time when hiring managers treated you like a piece of shit during interviews, you know who else has this job? A literal subhuman. You know who else had similar jobs earlier than you and didn't even need the money? Similar subhumans.

I don't give a fuck if that's ableist because these same employers refused to give my physically disabled mother a job for years and shit talked her from time to time because they'd rather hire people who never go to medical appointments, I'd rather feel bad for her and other people like her.

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absolutely dystopian and all the ppl around her were right, it's no one else's responsibility but ur own to take care of ur mental health, scrotes only alog when they're being cowards or to hurt their family/friends

(i hope im posting this in the right thread sorry if not nonas)

No. 3035370>>3035373>>3035409

>>3035344
She needs therapy at this point, or at least a journal, not making cringey comics about herself coping with her grief. Something about drawing a comic about your dead bf and putting in the effort to draw yourself as le cool badass who the world has let down one last time…is weird to say the least. I feel bad for saying this because clearly she's not doing well mentally

No. 3035373

>>3035370
>Something about drawing a comic about your dead bf and putting in the effort to draw yourself as le cool badass who the world has let down one last time…is weird to say the least
It's very "how can I make this about me" kek

No. 3035378

>>3035344
This is…odd.

No. 3035380

>>3035344
>filename
kek, also what stopped her pet scrote from becoming strong and independent like her? maybe she should've told him to pull himself up by the bootstraps? because the moral of the story seems like "if you don't ask for help you'll survive, if you're an attention seeker and depend completely on your gf, you'll die"

No. 3035409

>>3035344
>>3035370
>draw yourself as le cool badass
yeah I just got a lot of secondhand embarrassment off of this.

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>>3035344
If he was delusional and bipolar, then it was time to make an appointment with a professional and get fucking medicated, there was literally no other way. She blames everyone else for something that pertained her boyfriend specifically, I think she can't cope with this fact yet so she prefers lashing out at randoms that couldn't possibly "make" him do what he was supposed to do: be responsible for his own mental health. "Talk to him" as if regulars can do something about fucking bipolar psychosis, we're not shrinks, psychiatrists or therapists, she's blaming everybody because she knows deep down her boyfriend decided his fate himself. He knew he was delusional and didn't act accordingly, instead decided to get actively worse and apparently avoid medication? Where was this guy shrink?? She needs therapy and to confront the situation and stop harboring resentment

No. 3035565

>>3035344
KEK the comic is literally just
>hey if you need anything normal that I'm able to do don't hesitate to ask!
>ok thanks, can you prevent my severely mentally ill suicidal boyfriend from trying to kill himself for the 10th time this week?
>sorry I can't do that because it's more complicated than that and I don't know how to do that
>reeeeeee you fucking hypocrites how dare you!!!

No. 3035579

>>3035344
Glad my absolute self-centeredness and lack of empathy in relationships has filtered out any men that would even begin to pull shit like this. If I hear whining or angst I don't even register it as a sexually viable man, thus I've never even seen an ounce of this sob baiting bullshit. I hope this author learns to stop letting emo larpers ruin her perspective against her community like this, he's poisoned her mind in ways she doesn't even know.

No. 3035677

>>3035344
She’s just in the thick of grief, that’s all. One day she’ll grow past it and realize that those people were right — that her bf was an adult and his mental health was his own responsibility. But grief doesn’t exactly lend itself to rational thinking. It’s not cringey to make art like this as a way of processing things, it’s just cringey to post it publicly. One day she’ll understand.

No. 3035683>>3035718>>3035760

I never really understand what the main motivation behind ana is. I used to think it was a weird competition to attract moids but then I thought it was a more self hatred thing. However anachans are always saying things like loll u fatty fatty dumpling and are obsessed with other women's body weight which makes me think they're the first one. I never really understand it because soo many girls have had an ED I know but not me. Maybe because their parents were calling them fat and my parents never did even though they're shitty otherwise? (They did call me ugly fwiw)

No. 3035718>>3035723>>3035760

>>3035683
I was on proana Tumblr for a bit so here's my insight It's a control thing, first and foremost. That's why a lot of ana spaces are obsessed with "discipline." If your life is shit, you can at least take control of your diet. If you feel ugly, you can at least take control of your weight. If you're stressed, you can relieve it with comforting rituals centered around food (or depriving yourself of it). Obviously they take it to a ridiculous extreme, but that's the core characteristic. It's also a competitive disorder by nature: some people will feel ugly or fat compared to others and spiral further, while others become super narcissistic because the ED gives them a warped perspective and they think they're better than everyone else. The latter type is LOUD. In my opinion, they always have some pre-existing issue unrelated to the ED. The control element can also extend to triggering or bullying other people because they're nasty pickmes who literally have nothing else going on in their lives.

No. 3035723>>3035729

>>3035718
But why do they think being skinny makes you superior? Being ultra skinny is just as unhealthy and unattractive as being fat

No. 3035729>>3035737

>>3035723
Ayrt, they are literally batshit insane kek
>I'm ~strong enough~ to resist temptation and starve myself, so anyone who doesn't is clearly just a lazy blob

No. 3035737>>3035742>>3035753

>>3035729
AYRT - but you never hear about moids starving themselves. They are obsessed with being bigger, not smaller. I always thought there's a pedobaiting aspect to it because anachans often look like children.

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>>3035737
>They are obsessed with being bigger, not smaller
Shit like this should qualify as mental illness. These are the anachans of moids

No. 3035744

>>3035742
Gym bros are the anachans of moids. Both groups are absolutely FILLED with bippies

No. 3035753>>3035756

>>3035737
Anakuns are rare but they exist. My brother is one, he's an autist who's terrified of getting fat despite being underweight his whole life so he's obsessive about restricting food.

No. 3035756>>3035771

>>3035753
Are you sure he's an anachan not just an autist? A lot of Autists develop a hatred of eating because it involves things Autists find gross and have a fear of contamination from cooking food improperly, and find the act of eating and being around other people eating disgusting, as well as cooking and washing up. So they end up very skinny naturally. I believe this is considered an ED but it's not anorexia obviously. I think I'm kind of like this which is why I've always been skinny

No. 3035760>>3035768

>>3035683
>>3035718
Control is certainly a thing (it's not uncommon for anachans to have autism and OCD) but it can also be some sort of bpd self-harm and addiction. Instead of drinking or doing drugs, they cut off food and starve. The feeling of emptiness in their stomach and the sight of themselves losing weight is thrilling. The thought process is something like "I'm upset and everyone hates me because I'm ugly/far/weird so here, I'll starve myself because I don't deserve anything. I'm so weak and skinny and sick. See what people do to me, I'm so desperate I'm willing to hurt myself this much. Fuck you all, this is actually your fault, I hope you feel bad. I will continue to do worse.".

No. 3035766>>3035768

What type of anachan is the type to talk about it all the time, basically brag about it, go after shitty often times fat dudes, randomly drop that they threw up food in conversation, repeat themselves if no one responds, talk about wanting to be their lowest weight again, etc etc, in public spaces.
I'm kind of forced to deal with this and I basically don't really respond, how am I supposed to respond? It's like really fucking weird to me.

No. 3035768>>3035774

>>3035766
Attention seeking bippie like >>3035760 said

No. 3035771

>>3035756
He's both I'm pretty sure, he was always picky about food because of his tism which is why he was naturally skinny, but in the last year or so he started talking all the time about not wanting to be fat and would skip meals as a 'punishment' for eating too much the previous day (even though he eats very little) when he never used to care at all about his weight.

No. 3035774>>3035807

>>3035768
So is it good or bad of me to tell them I'm not going to engage with them when they talk about that stuff.

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No. 3035828>>3035835>>3035897

I HATE people who claim to have ADHD, but are really just pathetic phone addicts that aren't self aware enough to connect the dots.

A girl came over to my house the other day to watch a movie, and she explained to me that she "can't focus without scrolling" and proceeded to tell me about how when she watches a movie without scrolling, she can't focus so bad she literally forgets everything that's happening, but miraculously when she scrolls it "helps her focus". Like fuck offfff

No. 3035835>>3035963

>>3035828
ADHD fags lie so badly, they are the opposite of what they say.

>I have ADHD so I'm great at multitasking!!!

Is actually bad at doing any single task and will jump around erratically without doing anything properly. Will literally miss stop signs if having a conversation, but brag about being a multitasker. Id be fine with this flaw if they didn't meme it so hard that they have multi core processors in their head when they're shit at it.

>I have a fast brain and can conversate really well!

Actually steamrolls you in discussion and doesn't let you get a word in if it's a topic they like, if they don't care they immediately zone out and leave you talking to a wall with no reply. Either way they do not care about intaking your side of the discussion, they listen only to rebuke or lead the topic elsewhere.

>ADHD is the reason my home is messy! You normies can just focus so easily

Actually doesn't realize most of the things adhd fags meme about is stuff the entire world has to deal with

No. 3035838

>>3035344
I highly recommend crossposting in the artist salt. They know exactly who this is and what is happening.
>t. an artist salt regular

No. 3035876>>3035892>>3035896

are there more mentally ill people now or are they just more visible

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No. 3035896

>>3035876

I think they're more visible due to society allowing mental illness to be a part of someone's personality//join the "neurodivergent" cult, plus we have a lot of fakers. For the first time in history people have a vested incentive to fake having some kind of mental illness - it's the perfect halt to any accountability. Its a mess.

No. 3035897>>3035902>>3035914>>3035963>>3035980

>>3035828
I've started to think that ADHD is a fake disorder. Every case I've seen of it fits into one of the following categories
> obviously cpstd
> bad behaviour consequent to shitty parenting
> pretentious self diagnosed lying moid

Isn't there dispute among the medical profession as if it even exists? It doesn't have a very strong coherent collection of the same traits like bpd and autism do

No. 3035902>>3035907>>3035963

>>3035897
Imo adhd is a trained lifestyle caused disorder. I've had anywhere from zero to almost unbearable adhd symptoms and they all changed depending on my lifestyle and retraining my brain. The problem is most people just want to keep their lifestyle and not deal with the consequences of it

No. 3035907>>3035963

>>3035902
Yes exactly it's not built into people's personality like bippies or Autists

No. 3035912

Considering how norepinephrine is likely yhe cause of depressed people neglecting hygiene, why do they skip their meds

No. 3035914>>3035922

>>3035897
or it's just depression/anxiety. Like who hasn't heard of depression making someone not want to pay attention or get anything done. Or anxious students doing an all nighter. It's weird doctors don't consider these two before slapping ADHD on

No. 3035922>>3035953

>>3035914
from personal experience I also think anxiety is trained because I untrained myself from it (it was really difficult) but I don't know if you can untrain depression because of its nature it's hard to initiate the actions required to fix it

No. 3035953>>3035955

>>3035922
Well yeah, anxiety like depression is a mental condition and therefore trained and can be undone, meanwhile autism and bpd are neurological, untrained and can't be undone. That's the main difference between a mental condition and a neurological one, and why we don't call autism a mental illness, because mental illnesses (depression, anxiety, anorexia) are responses to conditions and can be cured

No. 3035955>>3035958

>>3035953
doesn't bpd have a pretty good recovery rate though?

No. 3035958>>3035959

>>3035955
Nobody ever stops being bpd, it's a part of their personality ingrained from childhood. Much like autism, some people learn to manage it better, but it never goes away

No. 3035959>>3035961

>>3035958
I think you can change personality but it requires a lot of work and ego dissolution

No. 3035961

>>3035959
Bpd people are constantly changing personality that's part of the disorder kek

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>>3035897
This kind of tinfoiling is no better than medfagging tbh
>>3035902
>>3035907
No, because it's a type of neurodivergence inb4 you argue, I heard that from a professional, face to face But that doesn't really change anything. They may not be able to unlearn it but they can take meds so it's not like they're helpless.
>>3035835
I know some adhd fags, and while they didn't say exactly what you mentionned, they say very similar things. Long story short, they complain a lot but never seek help. My adhd fags don't brag about multitasking like yours but they act like they need constant stimulation because their brains are faster and more capable. As if our puny brains can't understand that their superior minds need more challenges. Motherfucker, start taking your meds and then we'll see about your so-called galaxy brain.

No. 3035970>>3035989

>>3035963
>I heard that from a professional, face to face
I really doubt they know what they're talking about, most meds are experimental and used on the basis of randomly discovered symptom reduction, these people like to talk like they definitely know what's up but in 10-20 years I'm 100% sure they will come up with another reason for this issue and it will be technology, lack of reading and quiet time without any input required to process information

No. 3035978>>3035989>>3035995

>>3035963
Medical professionals say it's a real disorder because they are pressurised by big pharma into prescribing meds for it and are pressurised by parents schools and losers into making excuses for shitty or otherwise inconvenient behaviour. I knew someone diagnosed with adhd when he was obviously just traumatised by his father (who went to prison for threatening to kill him and his mother with a machete) and his behaviour was impacted as a result. It's a cop out disorder.

No. 3035980>>3035983

>>3035897
I don't doubt it exists but they're definitely enabled a lot more, especially moids
Basically
>ADHD moid
>Gets diagnosed in primary school
>Get given drugs, extra tutors, extra attention from teachers, extended time on assignments, more excuses for missed homework, etc
>Get praised for doing the bare minimum
And then he turns into an unbearable adult who still gets things handed to him and his wife/gf/whoever has to pick up the slack because he can't function

ADHD in girls
>Get punished for missing assignments, struggling in school, etc
>People dismiss lack of attention span as a result of TV/phone/just being lazy
>Get ass whooped some more
>Put in 10x the effort as a normal student just to maintain a C-D average while ADHD moids get medication, tutors and excuses

No. 3035983>>3036105

>>3035980
But is this adhd or is it just a bad upbringing? Everyone I've known of with diagnosed adhd has a poor upbringing, and it was basically used as a way of taking accountability off shitty parents causing shitty behaviour.

No. 3035989>>3035994

>>3035970
I doubt us farmers know better about it than people with doctorates who studied the matter for years. Btw I referred to said professional in relation to the neurodivergence thing, not the meds. Even so though, those meds do help in a lot of cases, so I don't get the excessive scepticism towards meds. You want mentally ill people to stop acting mentally ill after all, right?
>>3035978
Yes adhd is a fake disorder made up by big pharma because, uh… reasons! Yes!

No. 3035994

>>3035989
What doctors know and what they say is completely different, because parents and schools exert an extreme amount of pressure upon them to choose the outcome they desire. I have close family members who work in this field

No. 3035995

>>3035978
this so much, it's completely a made up mitigation of civilization caused issues. Make all the adhders sit and stare at a wall for 1 hour every day before bed so the brain actually gets to close all open tabs and no one would have adhd anymore. All these people fall asleep scrolling tiktoks before bed or can't sleep without a podcast in the background and have been doing so their entire lives, growing up playing fast paced games with a lot of stimuli like lol, of course the development of their brain is affected but it's all training. if someone sits on their ass all their life and has bad stamina it doesn't mean they can't fix that. the brain is an organ

No. 3036093>>3036121

Not to be that "real X is ackshually" but I've seen a few real ADHDfags and they're often dangerous to be around with their levels of neglect. Turning the stove on, then getting bored and turning to video games, then suddenly going out to look at the sky when the stove is still running. Literally leaving conversations to walk around and start shit, absolutely cannot even listen to a person speaking to them for 1 minute, enjoying the thrill of lying and stealing is another that isn't spoken about. That's what it is supposed to be
Someone who was a studious teacher's pet but got burnt out later in med school is not ADHD, nor is someone who burnt their attention span after getting raised by the internet. Other cases are usually just depression making someone not want to do shit, aka a lot of people

No. 3036096>>3036099>>3036111

Munchies who say they have x autoimmune or terminal illness who actually don't and make everyone else who legit has the thing look like illness fakers. You'll also see them dramatize it by dragging around canes, untrained self proclaimed service dogs, the whole nine yards and they all the while self diagnosed it. It really makes life harder for those who suffer from conditions that are laughed off by doctors already to have to see illness fakers using it for pity points

No. 3036099>>3036103

>>3036096
>autism
>eds
>pots
the trifecta of munchies

No. 3036103

>>3036099
>lyme
especially as a cover for anachan or addiction

No. 3036105>>3036280

>>3035983
I could believe it's a bad upbringing, but I also knew cases where there were twins and one had ADHD and the other didn't, despite having the same upbringing, parents, etc

No. 3036111

>>3036096
I find them interesting in a morbid curiosity way. I can't help but wonder what drives to to go to such extremes to get attention (BPD obvious)

No. 3036121>>3036124

>>3036093
that just sounds like a parenting failure, they were sheltered from the consequences of their disorganized actions by their parents and never had to suffer through them so there was no incentive to learn. istg behind every adhder there's always a mommy or grandma who always made sure they had clean clothes, picked up their garbage from the floor and cooked for them, so they never burnt a 50+usd frying pan that they would have to replace out of their own pocket or worse and never left the laundry wet in the washing machine for 3 days causing it to smell like mould.

No. 3036124>>3036148

>>3036121
Not really since the attention span was there to begin with. They were born with it ie there's still a brain difference. Working in pediatric care you can see actual young children who have it from birth and it's not just parenting, they're fucked to begin with

No. 3036148>>3036166

>>3036124
don't mean to question your experience or be rude but I don't buy it simply because you just don't spend all of your time with these children and from birth, you don't know their history and how parents engage with them at home. they can be young and already fucked because parents don't stimulate them properly for them to develop an attention span that is appropriate for their age and how many of these kids live with phones and ipads in their faces from birth? infants are brittle, one wrong thing builds lasting consequences and more often than not it's a multitude of neglectful situations they've already experienced within the first months of their life. you will never know, you just see the consequences, parents can say anything to other people to make themselves look like they are doing their absolute best and the kid is just born that way. I have first hand experience of everyone believing my mother's munchie by proxy fantasies and never questioning it while I suffered the consequences.

No. 3036166>>3036200>>3036295

>>3036148
Look up their neurology, they literally have different brain scans in the same way autists and bpds do

No. 3036189

Holy fuck there is this guy i'm 90% sure is either autistic or a deep loser type who has the same job duty at my new job and i'm so fucking annoyed. my boss keeps telling me to rely on him for help when this guy clearly does not want to and wants to check out. bitch what the fuck am i supposed to say here? i just started and don't fucking know enough. it was late so there was literally no one else who could help me except him holy shit. i'm retarded myself but try to be pleasant. ugh. at least it was one fucking friday and then this will rarely happen again because i'll actually know shit.

No. 3036199>>3036295

Codependent anxiety. Like what do you mean you "can't live" without your Nigel kek

No. 3036200>>3036295

>>3036166
yeah and abuse causes lesions on the brain which makes it appear different in brain scans as well. people with cptsd also have different brains than normal. loads of other environmental factors affect how the brain develops. it's not the same like carving in a rock, the brain can reconfigure itself if exposed to proper stimuli for prolonged periods of time. most people are just not willing to go through it long enough to see change.

No. 3036280>>3036295>>3036306

>>3036105
considering twin studies are the holy grail of geneticism and ADHD is supposed to be genetic if anything that makes me more convinced it's a lifestyle difference.

No. 3036295>>3036306>>3036574

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>>3036280
>>3036200
Nta but said lesions are different. Let me guess, you didn't look it up, right? Disclaimer to you and everyone else who thinks they know better than actual doctors: nobody gives a fuck about your anti-vaxx Karen tier theory about what ADHD could be, we're here to share experiences about how people with disorders have hurt us. Since you refuse to do any research, at least go to the tinfoil thread.
>>3036166
I highly doubt she'll do her research, sadly
>>3036199
I had to deal with two losers like that, both moids. The annoying part is they treat you like their personal therapist after their girlfriend leaves them or is about to. Each time I instantly shut them up by just asking "But you've lived for years without knowing her. You'd just revert to that."

No. 3036306>>3036347

>>3036295
nta but doctors were also prescribing lobotomies when it was the trendy new cure so when there's a massive ballooning of any medical or psychiatric trend like this which suspiciously overlaps with a social need like this, it's worth being skeptical. I don't think all ADHD is fake but I do think a lot of cases are, like the >>3036280 twins where one is and one isn't. ADHD can be real and massively over-diagnosed at the same time.

No. 3036330>>3036347

Paranoia/delusions. I wish I could report someone in the family for making threats and false police reports but every time he gets off scot free because he truly unironically believes it happened rather than knowingly misleads them so they just dismiss him as a little crazy

No. 3036347

>>3036306
>ADHD can be real and massively over-diagnosed at the same time.
Ayrt, I know, I'm just tired of these fringe theories. Skepticism is good btw sorry for misspelling with a c instead of k earlier, ET(third)L and necessary even but these anons seem sure of their theories and don't want to do research. Next they'll be saying autism is caused by milk and that we're hit autistic dogs if we disagree.
>>3036330
>someone in the family for making threats and false police reports
That must be so dangerous for the people living in the same house. Police loves to ignore cases they don't deem serious (cough women who are about to be victims of femicides cough) so I can imagine that they'll view a genuine call from the household of a serial false reporter as a "boy who cried wolf" situation. If it were me living there I'd kick the person out as a matter of safety.

No. 3036574>>3036912

>>3036295
Yeah let's just continue gaslighting and coddling people into thinking it's an unchangeable quality of their brain so they can continue being shitheads to everyone around them without taking any responsibility or attempting to improve anything about their behavior kek

No. 3036659>>3036669

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It's so funny that even DIDfags know that the whole thing is bullshit

No. 3036669>>3036695>>3036912

>>3036659
People still think DID is real? Isn't it essentially hysteria, and disproved now? A combination of medical misogyny and bippies being retards was basically what created it

No. 3036695>>3036731

>>3036669
Some cases of multi personality have been real, but usually it is because of severe isolation and trauma. Its not a mental disorder that can be developed in any other way. And there have been very few credible cases. One was of a woman who was like, tied up somewhere and kept blindfolded and alone for years and raped and tortured. The people in her head were coping mechanisms and stand ins for relationships she didn't have in the situation. A mom figure, a father figure, a sister figure. So on and so forth. An extreme maldaptive coping mechanism that is curable with intensive therapy and medication.
Not this cutesy "i feel like wearing black uwu that means my emo alter is fronting"…

No. 3036731>>3036733>>3036895>>3038883

>>3036695
although I don't think it's 'real' DID, internal family systems therapy is one of the main recommended therapy types for treatment of BPD and literally encourages you to create these figures inside yourself to self-soothe rather than to project on others; it's growing popularity as a therapeutic method explains the popularity of DID online too, and why for BPD people it doesn't feel like a lie, because they have genuinely been encouraged to develop these internal selves when one of the hallmarks of the condition is that they have no stable sense of self of their own.

No. 3036733

>>3036731
plus, a lot of these alters do map on to found family character archetypes; you often get a 'mom' personality alter, and the emo / brooding edgy alter is usually characterised as a moody big brother type.

No. 3036895>>3036908

>>3036731
Bpd dont really lie just they have no real personality so switch between them like channel to channel, it seems authentic to them but to everyone else it seems like multiple people are inside them

No. 3036908>>3036912

>>3036895
Actually nobody thinks there's "multiple people" inside of them because this isn't medieval times. They always just come off as fake and superficial.

No. 3036912

>>3036574
No anon, you can't just wish adhd away. You can take meds to tone it way down, though. Oh wait, you don't like when they do that either. "Stop having adhd! No not like that!"
>>3036908
I don't think she meant that literally
>>3036669
There are real cases but it's like 1% of the population. Just like asexuality, it does exist but so many people fake it en masse that most "cases" you witness are bs.

No. 3036930>>3036932

Why do bippies constantly traumadump and expect constant attention and pity and then when you try and confide in them they GENUINELY couldnt give less of a FUCK

No. 3036932>>3036938

>>3036930
They're low-level narcs. Then they turn around and go
>UGH I'm sooo empathetic and also so nice to everyone why do people always hate me I'm just a sweet angel who can do NO WRONG except LOVE AND CARE WITH ALL OF MY HEART!!!
Of course they mean the random dick they message twice on tinder and have three hookups with that they're then madly "in love" with and not a single other person in their lives.

No. 3036938

>>3036932
But they are so entitled they turn on you if you give them the slightest criticism and expect constant attention

No. 3036946>>3036947>>3038556

Honestly I can't stand those who say mentally ill people are discriminated against in the justice system. In reality they really aren't. They get a diagnosis and then it becomes their shield forever. Hundreds of criminals kill their entire families and partners and everyone goes awww but he was stwessed and mentollee eel and probably having an "episode" and didn't know what he was doing!!1!
>why would anyone fake a disorder?
Shit like this, duh?

No. 3036947

>>3036946
Honestly that just makes it worse for people who have issues imo so yeah

No. 3037030

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>>2909787

My coworker that I've only known for a month sent me this after I told them they needed to pick up slack. I gave it straight to HR.

No. 3037168>>3038460

Can someone be a narcissist but hate attention and praise?

No. 3038443>>3038655>>3038749>>3038778>>3038792

I find it funny when autists claim to be hyper logical or how their special interests make them so smart and full of knowledge.
Autists are not good at critical thinking, it's studied. Being "logical" is their cope for being emotionally dysregulated but they're not, and when they somewhat are, their "logic" is really childish and rigid. They struggle with seeing the big picture or drawing connections like most people can.
Same goes with their special interests; they act like seasoned Harvard professors with them. Their "knowledge" is the equivalent of memorising and dumping fun facts randomly. But if you asked them to actually write an essay or report or something proper and coherent on their special interest, they wouldn't do a good job.

No. 3038460

>>3037168
I think some covert narcissists function like this and may performatively dislike praise and attention because they know it goes against their image to lean into it. Especially attention, as coverts are more likely to feel a need to hide in general, so the dislike of that may not be performative. I hesitate to say they’d truly dislike praise as they’re still narcissists, and supply is supply.

No. 3038556

>>3036946
Only if you're a mentally ill scrote

No. 3038652

>>3035278
I swear to fucking god, the thing that made me blackpilled about the job market and job laws in my country is the tard quota. I was working in one of those bookstore-cafe-chill type thing, a little cafe with a little book section that you could either rent or buy, I applied and got accepted, there were THREE tards with me that constantly fucked shit up like messing up book orders (they would randomly type shit on the computer and order the same book 5-6 times and not restock the right ones), shrugged at people who stole shit because "they wanted it" and leaving crumbs on our customers tables during their lunch break. I got fired after a year because the boss told me that I was taking too much of their yearly bonuses and I understood where the shit was: they were running on tard benefits. The government was giving each tard, lets say, not a burger, 1k dollars for each tard working there monthly despite them just waddling around and making my boss their baby sitter and since I wasn't a tard, they had to pay me a proper salary and I was the unsustainable one because I did my job. They couldn't fire the tards and give me their salary because what I did was going over their expectation. I had rent and food to pay, tards had housing by the government and their disability bucks with their minisalary from that workplace. I wish there was a law that keeps them from getting a job if they live on our tax money, this thing made me so evil that it made me think about faking autism and fibro to get some extra money. To think that I could get that money, of all of them combined, but couldn't so they could "stay busy" during the day and not hit their poor mothers and caretakers at home makes me rage, it was the perfect workplace for me since it was quiet and at a walking distance and now I have to wake up three fucking hours early to get to my new workplace.

No. 3038655>>3038743

>>3038443
I find it hard to get mad about this because anyone with a disability that fucks up your whole life is going to find a way to cope with it. I don't mind them doing the professor posturing as long as they don't start that next level of evolution stuff … which some do, somehow.

No. 3038672>>3038687>>3038705>>3038778>>3038787>>3038803

sort of a real illness, sort of a mental illness because i think it's munchie adjacent, but people who have """migraines""" every day and use it as an excuse to get out of plans. i have a so called friend who has canceled on me 8 times in the last month at the eleventh hour because she "has a migraine". this alleged "migraine" doesn't stop her from posting on instagram while she's supposed to be hanging out though. i had a coworker who also TOTALLY had migraines every day so she would just come in 4-5 hours late with no notice and i'd have to do both of our jobs in the meantime. of course neither of these people take medications for their totally real and valid migraines…

No. 3038687

>>3038672
Relatable. I had a friend like this and she'd always use it to get out of plans last minute and it was obvious. I have migraine too but it's not something that happens that often and when I have it I'm also unable to do anything. I feel sorry for anyone with migraines but using them as a cheap excuse instead of being honest just sucks

No. 3038705>>3038824

>>3038672
It's a bippie thing. I used to have a friend like this (obviously diagnosed and obviously refusign the bpd diagnosis) and he went into a tard rage when I stopped inviting them.
It's a form of attention seeking and one time he accidentally told me what he actually thought when doing shit like that. Basically this friend of mine was flaky as fuck, always left meetings early, always blamed it on "migraines" or nausea, always cancelling last minute, I got stood up a shitload of times and when I started hanging out with people and yes, I did it as revenge to get back to him (reminder that bippies DON'T have feelings. Real bippies don't feel anything besides rage or sniffing-own-farts type of satisfaction when they have attention, like a "gotcha") and he went "Uhmmm why I wasn't invited?" "Because if you're always sick, I avoid bothering you" and he had this slip where he said "But anon I like to be invited and to be considered, even if I'm not there, the thought of you inviting me makes me feel good…so please invite me, even if I'm not coming."
It just a way for them to be sure you're always thinking about them even if you're out with other people. They do not accept not being the center of your attention.

No. 3038743

>>3038655
It's just annoying when they act all pretentious about it or larp being some scholars kek

No. 3038749

>>3038443
ADHDfags do this way more often than autists from my experience

No. 3038778

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>>3038443
ACKSHUALLY it depends on the person (as in, not all autists can't think critically, the bigger picture thing is due to paying more attention to detail, yada yada) but the way I understand it, being autistic makes you way more likely to have a mental retardation, which in itself does make your thinking more child-like and rigid (duh).This is going to sound really weird but the way I view it, autism is a bit like AIDS. It doesn't automatically come with cancer or some fucked up disease (metaphor for retardation in this case), but it's really damn likely. So yes, whenever people instantly act like an autist is a misunderstood genius, it honestly looks more like fake kiss-assery for social justice points if anything. And when the autist themselves does it, you can tell somebody lied to them, typically their parents.
>>3038672
As someone who struggled with severe migraines in the past: there's definitely something off here. There is medicine that actually helps with crippling migraines, though it's stuff you can only take twice a week or you get liver damage. Either way, she could've showed up at LEAST twice a week instead of never. As for your friend, she's absolutely bullshitting and I'm sorry about that.

No. 3038787

>>3038672
Anyone who claims to get migraines but still uses a screen without blue light reduction filters is full of shit. 100% of the time. No exceptions. If she's calling out of plans for a migraine but still posts on insta, she's a munchie liar who doesn't understand what a migraine is. Reducing blue light exposure is literally the easiest thing someone can do to reduce migraines but watch all those phone addicts clamor for excuses and claim that the sepia tone on their bright white screen triggers a headache.

No. 3038792>>3038798>>3039235

>>3038443
100% of the time they do this because of their parents nona

No. 3038798>>3041254>>3041721

>>3038792
nta but I sometimes think autism parents are more disordered than their children. I've known well adjusted autists with turbo normie parents and they seem to get along better than the ones whose parents memorized the autism playbook and see everything through the lens of disability.

No. 3038803

>>3038672
I miss when more people could just say they have a headache. A take 2 paracetamol headache. Anyone I've known who is full of shit in general (their retelling of events can never quite be trusted, it's always embellished a lil or exaggerated in some way) jumps to claiming migraines too.

No. 3038824>>3038871

>>3038705
Tangibly related but I hate when bippies talk about things they hate but then are hypocrites about it. I once had this bippie friend who I'd text to check in with when she was having her "migraines" again, and often nothing would come back. So at first I started being worried but then i'd see her online playing league etc so I just texted "let me know when you feel better" and we didn't text each other for a week. When I saw her again she asked me why I ghosted her when she was ill and why I didn't check in with her, I told her that she did not reply to me either so why should I and she said that's not how it works. Just because she doesn't make the effort doesn't mean people shouldn't make any effort and called me a bad friend lol

No. 3038871>>3038876

>>3038824
Why do they do this?

No. 3038876

>>3038871
They're emotionally retarded and have the needs of a 3 year old in terms of attention. When you are 3, you have no "self reflection" and everything feels like the world has to cather to you because you are a toddler plus you have no object permanence, right? That's why kids cry when dropped at school or when parents go to work. Doesn't matter if people check on them for days, if someone didn't text them today then to them is like that person is ignoring them and nothing else matters, that's also why they're called "black holes". They expect everyone to exist only for them and they're not allowed to be another person besides their emotional fuck toy.

No. 3038883>>3039741>>3040516

>>3036731
nta I want to know how these people have such a firm control over their mind and compartmentalizing their thoughts in such a way. Fascinated because I personally lack that, and would assume most victims of truama would be even moreso lacking in that area. Feels like it is on par with telling a depressed person to just not be depressed kek

No. 3039235

>>3038792
so what? it's still fucking annoying and retarded

No. 3039741

>>3038883
it's not really control over their thoughts, it's that they have literally no sense of self so they have nothing stopping them from doing it. They often use transitional objects, like a teddy bear, to help.

No. 3039743

Anyone that feels the need to randomly share their unrelated life story out of nowhere when they hear an abuse story ft. their disorder they have. Someone vents about a terrible parent or friend or partner with X disorder and you'll always have some retard also with X disorder getting offended and then bringing up their unrelated "I'm one of the good ones" story. Nobody cares that you're 34 or 12 and have ADHD or autism or bipolar or schizophrenia or whatever and how you grew up in the EU and got diagnosed in the lovely state of Arkansas and how this has affected your life and how you totally feel sorry for the victim but clearly are humblebragging about how different you are.
Like it's not even subtle, just say you hate the victim for "stigmatizing" your disorder, full stop. Nobody asked for your life story

No. 3039766>>3039787>>3044043

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Aaand it's another "people look up what BPD actually is, by citing the symptoms and butthurt bippies/lazily diagnosed girls say that they would never do shit that's literally in the diagnostic criteria" episode.
I don't blame them, as I said I believe that half of the girls and women diagnosed with bippieism are most likely the victim of lazy therapists that just slap that label and call it a day but I hate how defensive they get over a disorder they most likely do not have.
Some people are pieces of shit because their disorder keeps them from being decent human beings, that's just facts. You do not see this shit with other disorders.
https://x.com/AI_EmeraldApple/status/2066267496400003143

No. 3039787>>3044043

>>3039766
most BPD defenders don't even have it ime. They're usually teenagers who think their hormonal moments are BPD

No. 3040516

>>3038883
The older I get the more I think that a lot of mental illness related behavior is mainly caused by a lack of emotional and general intelligence, not even the trauma or whatever. Like these people barely interiorized theory of mind, sure it’s not that they literally don’t know other people are separate from them, but their behavior is that of someone that doesn’t fully believe/accept that others have their own lives and interests and rich inner worlds. And then you could have someone with the same abandonment trauma who does have some emotional intelligence, they will also have their mental issues but it won’t manifest in bippie behavior. Who knows how or why this happens, it’s also true that trauma, especially early trauma literally causes brain damage so could it be that they just don’t fully develop past a certain point or something due to that? Idk I’m just talking out of my ass, but it’s just so clear to me that as you say they are literally emotionally retarded and this is what drives most of their actions

No. 3040909>>3041254

Anyone who calls themselves "AuDHD". Likely they don't have either. Also unpopular opinion I don't think it's possible to have both at the same time, they're very contradictory disorders at heart.

No. 3041254>>3041721>>3044040

>>3040909
There's a lot of overlap between the symptoms of autism and ADHD so I bet a huge amount of these diagnoses (not counting self diagnoses via Tiktok) are lazy/shitty psychiatrists. I'm sure it's possible to have both at the same time but when I think of AuDHD I think of Courtney Ahn kek.
>>3038798
Well yeah because those parents see their child as a prop, not a human. They take their 6 year old overstimulated child to Disneyland on the busiest day of the year, film the meltdowns and put it online for asspats about how brave and wonderful they are for raising a literal devil from hell and taking it to see Mickey. Before socials were a thing these parents were into indigo children and empaths.

No. 3041721>>3042333

>>3038798
>>3041254
Aren't autism parents also autistic themselves? Like the autism has to come from somewhere genetically. If you look at "autism mommies" their behavior is textbook autism too with their sperging and special interest being their own child kek

No. 3042333

>>3041721
You can have a genetic predisposition to it without having it yourself. Generally the oldest child out of multiple children is the statistically most likely to have autism, the younger children are less likely to. Then there's neglect causing a lot of the same social symptoms as autism, leading to misdiagnosis.

No. 3043523>>3044224>>3044231>>3044310>>3044349

In the UK rn a learning disabled man threw a child into a crocodile pit at the zoo. The child is unhurt (rescued by woman zoo owner) but he is not facing any charges and his name is being kept private, because, learning disability. There is no level of learning disability where you don't understand feeding children to crocodiles = bad.

No. 3043823

I hate how entitled autists are. They love saying "I'm autistic!" before or after the most incredibly entitled, shitty, illogical, borderline psychopathic shit you've ever heard. They are quite literally incapable of comprehending nobody owes them shit in life beyond low-level basic human empathy. If I could pay a million dollars to never have to interact with another autist, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

No. 3044040

>>3041254
>There's a lot of overlap between the symptoms of autism and ADHD
What overlap though, if you read their criteria there isn't much to see. Even face value, one is about rigidity and routine, the other is the complete opposite

No. 3044043>>3044047

>>3039787
>>3039766
Imo a lot of women who "have" BPD would instantly be cured if they stopped hanging out with toxic scrotes/friends. And a lot of people who "have" AuDHD would be cured if they cut down the screentime once in a while

No. 3044047

>>3044043
ngl i believe the line between real bpd and a wrong mis/self diagnosis is abusive behavior. the latter never show even the slightest "craziness" other than crying over being treated like shit but somehow think they're bpd

No. 3044224

>>3043523
There’s definitely a degree of planning and intent there. He knew what he was doing and he wanted to see the child eaten by crocodiles. He’s not your typical retard mindlessly lashing out because of frustration, he’s a psycho that should be locked in a padded room for the rest of his life. Or culled.

No. 3044231>>3044310

>>3043523
In my country we hung a retarded twelve year old girl by her neck less than 150 years ago when she killed a six year old girl. I don't think that was the right thing to do, but better than what the UK is doing here. He's a grown man, under zero circumstances should be he in the same vicinity as an unrelated child while unsupervised.

No. 3044310>>3044349>>3045069

>>3043523
further update: the child was being reported as safe, but he's got life-changing permanent injuries.
>>3044231
the focus has completely been on his carers for not paying attention, and while they should face criminal consequences for that, why was a retard with violent tendencies let outside at all?

No. 3044349

>>3043523
>>3044310
>but he's got life-changing permanent injuries
And retard lovers will tell you it's not the retard's fault, it just happened out of nowhere you can't just blame him because he didn't know what he was doing. Who cares about intent in that case. If he's dangerous and unaware of it it's one more reason to put him far away from society for the rest of his life to avoid injuring random toddlers who were minding their own business. And let me guess, that tard was most likely way taller, bigger and faster than average and couldn't be restrained by his handlers before he committed that crime?

No. 3044412>>3044807>>3044958>>3045069>>3045077>>3049299>>3049411

What the absolute coddling fuck is this.
The way society bends a knee to autism, especially when a male has it, is mind boggling. This scrote should have never gotten this bad.
I'm so fucking tired of people attached the autism diagnosis to obvious spoiled entitlement and suddenly it's okay.
No, this is retardation manifest. The whole thing is retardation. Retards wasting time on another retard who would rather die than drink out of a different sippy cup.
Oh my fucking god and it's always an autistic moid too.

No. 3044807

>>3044412
Not that tard women are any better but if an autistic girl had this problem nobody would even blink kek

No. 3044958>>3044962>>3045004

>>3044412
Let's say this is real and not a fake story for attention. Then what? It's natural selection. A grown child refuses to drink for a reason that stupid? Let him die then. It's natural selection.

No. 3044962>>3044967

>>3044958
once a human is willed into this world, the people surrounding are forced to force it to stay alive regardless of how retarded it is

No. 3044967>>3045004

>>3044962
>the people surrounding are forced to force it to stay alive regardless of how retarded it is
Either because their instinct are terrible or because of the police and the laws having terrible priorities and pretending that a retarded child dying because of its retardation is the same as an abused normal child being dehydrated and starved on purpose because of his or her crazy parents or caretakers. If it weren't for the law, I wonder how things could be. It's not like the police or CPS really gives a shit about normal kids suffering because of the deranged adults around them anyway.

No. 3045004

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>>3044958
>>3044967
On a related note, it makes me fucking sick how women are just expected to spend their whole lives slaving away for these children that are incapable of loving them back. What purpose does it serve to keep these barely-functioning retards alive??

No. 3045069

>>3044310
>why was a retard with violent tendencies let outside at all?
I sincerely don't know. Is there a reason we don't use those leash backpacks? Parents I know swear by them so I don't see why they can't be scaled up for adults.
>>3044412
Holy neglectful parenting Batman. His parents LET HIM drink out of the same plastic sippy cup for over a decade!? There's a reason toddlers are taught to drink out of normal cups as soon as they're able to hold them upright, because doing sucking motions too often and too late into childhood will screw up how your teeth grow in.

No. 3045077>>3045084

>>3044412
I feel bad for saying this, but oh my god the child is so fat, it wouldn't hurt him to fast a bit and maybe lose some weight.

No. 3045084>>3045870

>>3045077
Half the pictures involve him sitting in a stroller well past developmentally appropriate age. His parents are letting him stagnate. Hate feeling bad for a moidlet but it's sincerely tragic, he might have had a chance with parents who actually pushed him to improve, but he stands no chance with these yahoos who would rather petition Facebook than teach their teenage son how to drink out of a regular plastic cup, something they should have done when he was four, not fourteen.

No. 3045870>>3046068

>>3045084
There is a creepy phenomenon especially common with boys where a mentally ill parent (usually the mom but can happen with both) will purposefully arrest a child's development in an attempt to control them.
I have seen some serious fucked up shit with mentally ill parents to the point where my mind sometimes wanders to eugenics for the sake of child welfare.

No. 3046030>>3047264>>3048397>>3048712>>3048724>>3048793

Honestly the sooner we admit half of "social anxiety" is just narcissism, the better.

No. 3046068>>3048717

>>3045870
Parents with munchausen by proxy having retarded kids like that must be the happiest parents on earth.

No. 3047264>>3047288>>3048715

>>3046030
ur delusional to the next level and possibly a narcissist urself for thinking that

No. 3047288

>>3047264
alright projecter, explain then, how is that narcissism itself?

No. 3048397>>3048718>>3048720

>>3046030
Doubtful since narcs, have that superiority and rage going on. That's not a presentation with social anxiety. Though both have that self-obsession in common.

No. 3048712

>>3046030
The hit anxietyfags are hollering, but you're right.

No. 3048715>>3048719

>>3047264
>ur
>urself
Do you get anxiety from pressing the "y" and "o" buttons too

No. 3048717

>>3046068
probably not, munchies want attention-farming zebras not run of the mill retarded ponies.

No. 3048718

>>3048397
kek I have yet to meet a socially anxious person who doesn't obsess over how people perceive them. normal people don't gaf because they lack a superiority complex that informs them that the cashier at walmart is totally judging them for accidentally saying "good morning" when it's 12:05pm.

No. 3048719

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No. 3048720>>3048725

>>3048397
Yeah but they're crazy obsessed with how people think of them and at some point there is an overlap.
I get being shy as a kid at your first job or public speaking but if you're over 25 and still have "social anxiety" over asking for extra napkins at McDonald's then you really need to be removed from society. You think the employee gives a fuck about you out of all people?
It's like schizophrenics who think everyone's out to get THEM of all people kek, as if the government cares about your super special self.

No. 3048724

>>3046030
It is narcissism in a sense, I've been saying this kek finally. And yes I say this as a retard who struggles myself socially but when you are so obsessed with how others perceive you and make everything about you you you, it is a form of narcissism. If you were focused on other people and looking externally instead of internally, you wouldn't be anxious. Not that I think anxietyfags can help it. They can't. But it's more closely linked to narcissism than people realize.

No. 3048725>>3048728

>>3048720
A lot of self-proclaimed "anxious" people are also nasty as hell over the internet, they'd never say shit to anyone's face kek to anyone who is cringe and free instead of obsessing over others' perception of them 24/7. It's like when dysmorphiafags seethe over normal looking people, or when people pleasers seethe that you've got a spine and stand up for yourself kek

No. 3048727

I remember too how my brother would always be anxious and talking gay shit about how other men see him as small and the world was trying to make him small in particular. He says it's anxiety but it always sounded so self obsessed. Like everyone is just thinking about him all the time. And when I tell him nobody is thinking about him because nobody cares, he gets offended kek. A lot of anxiety is really just narcissism.

No. 3048728>>3048731

>>3048725
people pleasers act like holy virtuous lambs meanwhile if you show any sign of confidence or having independence they will try their hardest to drag you down

No. 3048731

>>3048728
The bitterness that some people exhibit when you don't follow their dysfunctions or strain of mental illness is truly something to behold

No. 3048793>>3048803

>>3046030
You're better off saying "socially anxious people are crazy, self-centered and need to get their head out of their asses". Overconfidence is a lot more common among narcissists. Underconfidence is far more common among socially anxious people. On the other hand self-consciousness in general is linked with a few different disorders so you can make this exact argument linking it to several different kinds which muddies the meaning of all of them.

No. 3048803>>3049174

>>3048793
it wasn't said that they're the same as narcissists, just that there's a half overlap. Learn to read. Also the "ackshually socially anxious people are underconfident so they can't be narcissistic" doesn't work because covert narcissists are also underconfident

No. 3048952>>3048966>>3049327>>3049676>>3058705

autists are just as neurotic and cruel to others as bippies and narcissists. it's really telling whenever they get criticised and immediately bring up "um ackshually we're not as mean as bippies/narcs, they actually are so mean to us btw" you are no different from the harm you cause, call coming from inside the house

No. 3048966>>3058705

>>3048952
Might sound crazy but I'd rather deal with a narcissist than an autist from personal experience. At least with the narcissist, people/therapists will actually believe I've been mistreated because everyone knows narcissists are terrible and harmful. Meanwhile you try to bring up anything negative done to you by a sperg and everyone's like zomg they didn't know what they were doing! the poor baby retard didn't do nuffin wrong! how dare u be so cruel! What a joke.

No. 3049174

>>3048803
Half overlap still doesn't make much sense when core motivations are usually different compared to one another while insecurity, rumination and neuroticism are generic traits present in many disorders. What's being discussed lacks most of the core of what makes narcissism what it is. SAD generally is much easier to treat and less pathological with some exception, and the treatments tend to be extremely different. So in other words most of the overlap is superficial. I also didn't say they can't have narcissism kek, these are just general trends. There isn't a significant comorbidity between clinical social anxiety and narcissism. And "actually" covert narcissists aren't characterized by underconfidence, it's usually more dysregulated and oscillating which is one reason why the research shows the trends it does. If one chronically underestimates his abilities across situations relative to what's realistic and it stays stable even if his environment or peers made it easy to feel confident that'd be unusual.

No. 3049299

>>3044412
I think that the core essence of being a parent is to raise kids, teach them life and one day, let them go and be proud of them. These kids are nothing.
Lets examine this case: that cup is NOT life saving. If he doesn't use it, he wont die. That cup is not a medicine or a medical equipment.
As a parent, his father should have educated him from a young age to every kind of cup. That is a survival tactic.
The cup can break or get lost, lets say, on holiday. What will he do?
If he drinks only by a sucking motion, it's purposely not letting him live.
I hate autism parents that disguise their munchiness by saying "this is for awareness!"
Uh yes? I'm aware that tards exist, now what? What changed in my and our life as a whole? The parent failed the disabled child. Sad as fuck.

No. 3049327

>>3048952
I'm autistic and I agree. Unfortunately I seemingly lack the ability to NOT get blunt and snippy with people. It's something I'm trying to work on but it's really hard. Make sure to call autists out on it because we always think we're in the right and don't get how rude we come across to other people. When I realized how mean I was being to customers at work I wanted to crawl in a hole and die, I still cringe about it.

No. 3049411

>>3044412
How come these parents are never concerned that their kid is gonna die from obesity.

They'll do shit like freak out and reach out to the makers of 'insert highly processed food' if a company dares to change a recipe because that's the only thing their kid will eat. And isn't their kid actually so smart for noticing that it changed! They'll want a whole community effort to get involved and 'reach out' like a planned harrassment campaign. That's not so wholesome. But they're never anywhere near as concerned that their kid is fucking gigantic. They're more conerned with starvation and how it's a companies fault that their kid will now STARVE or dehydrate their way to an early grave. I've seen them try to boycott companies who won't bend at the knee for one tard kid. Tommee Tippee probably didn't want that heat but these parents also do it with companies that make snacks. They want them to just keep producing an unpopular product (that expires) soley for their kid

No. 3049676>>3049894

>>3048952
Nonnie, I had a bippie, laugh when I broke down in grief over my dead grandparents-right in front of my boyfriend. Even as a sperg, I would never do that. Pure psycho behaviour.

No. 3049894>>3050473

>>3049676
well sorry then but i've had other literal spergs laugh at my grief too so no

No. 3050137>>3050275

Not to sound like a fearmongering karen mom but are there any actual signs a child will grow into an actual sociopath?

No. 3050275

>>3050137
Hurting and torturing animals is a first, then another sign in a child is not showing much emotions (but please try to rule autism out first) and then, look out in their environment. The people that are around them the most will eventually influence him, the best thing you can teach to a child is basic logic instead of going only with emotions.

No. 3050473

>>3049894
Well,I'm sorry they laughed at your grief too.

No. 3050862

Whenever I see a body dysmorphic nona vent about how she must look so fat or manly or troony I just fucking know she looks perfectly fine. Body dysmorphia rots the brain, it's twins with being an anachan

No. 3050908

Anyone find it sad how countless kids self diagnose BPD and end up trying to defend actual bippies who are probably convicted of countless DV charges?
The criteria should probably actually elaborate on some things like how bippies are in practice, because kids see "unstable identity" (all teenagers have this) or "heavy emotions" (every teenager with hormones) or "fears abandonment" (who doesn't, by someone they love?) but that's just not it whatsoever

No. 3051524

never edate a bpd tif out of pity worst mistake of my life. i feel so fucking retarded

No. 3058017>>3058030>>3058044

I'm empathetic towards people going through shit, I get depression. But sometimes i wonder why these people are supposedly depressed when there wasn't and isn't anything major happening in their life that would warrant the response. i've had a lot on my plate but people just assume that i'm fine and don't even ask, however my friend is getting coddled for her depressive symptoms because she finished her doctorate and now she is bored and without purpose so she fell into deep depression? it's just kinda insulting if you look at the big picture

No. 3058030

>>3058017
IMO, a lot of these people simply hate themselves and chase achievements and external goals to distract themselves. You can accomplish anything and everything, have all the things you could ever need and want, but still be depressed because you're a self-loathing person who couldn't stand alone to be with your thoughts.

No. 3058044

>>3058017
Maybe she's an extreme attention-seeker and probably never faced any real tragedy in her life so she has a low tolerance to frustrstion and disconfort. Meanwhile you're mature and you're life experiences have made you even more so. Opposite cases. Sadly you're the only one aware of this and she gets her pitty points without actually dealimg with any real hardship. Or maybe I am reading too much into this. Whatever it is, I feel you.

No. 3058705

>>3048952
To be honest I don't see autists abuse or annihilate entire families like narcs do. On average narcs are way more dangerous, especially to women and children. I don't know about bippies tho, never met one

>>3048966
If the narc is charming enough people won't believe you until it's too late, and even then it's debatable. Autists on average have lower social status, so besides a few guilt trips it's easier to leave them. Narcs often have circles of people who defend them too, I wouldn't fuck with that. Also if you make a mistake to reproduce a narc, you may give birth to another demonspawn who will try to ruin your life, that you will be responsible for.

Women should never get their guard down for narcs

No. 3059357

that type of crybully bpdchan who feels like a victim every time someone breathes near them. everything is about how they feel. they'll happily falsely accuse someone of every crime on the planet if they felt like it and trying to use any rationality on them has them murderous. not to sound like ben shapiro but facts really don't care about your feelings or whatever he said.

No. 3062161>>3062201

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Malingerers or munchies should be locked up the moment the therapist realize it. Not only they're major attention whores, they also have the balls to act every illness under the sun for what? Attention? The cheapest thing you can get from someone?
Pic related is Evie Field, a random girl that one day has seizures, one day has pandas, one day has dystonia, one day has tics, one day has depression, one day she has to wear helmets for tics but somedays she's perfectly fine, until she randomly needs a wheelchair but then she can run. Fuck them.

No. 3062185>>3062192

Bippies are so self centred

No. 3062192>>3062205>>3062206

>>3062185
They are so self-centered and then not only that they freak the fuck out and hate you if they pick up on the vibe that you stopped thinking of them for a single second.

No. 3062201

>>3062161
When Kelly was getting 100+ blood bags when there was literally a scarcity in donated blood… fuck her. It's one thing to LARP online it's another thing to actually waste medical resources that are life-saving.

No. 3062205

>>3062192
This is why they like having autists as pets, because autists literally do think about them all the time, as they have no other friends

No. 3062206

>>3062192
I don't understand how they can be that selfish and not recognize it or do they just don't care? I've noticed it a lot that it seems to be one rule for thee another one for me with them

No. 3062224>>3062308>>3063192

I'm mostly fine with autistic women but it's really sad how susceptible they are to gender ideology and full on tiffing out.

No. 3062308

>>3062224
retards are retarded, best to just avoid associating with them at all

No. 3062875

Anachan b&w thinking. Everyone's either Peter Griffin or Eugenia Cooney to them. Pure autism

No. 3063192>>3063193>>3063195

>>3062224
They're much worse than normie women when it comes to being a pickme, they're basically like mras. Look at someone like Pearl Davis for example and tell me that she isn't on the spectrum.

No. 3063193

>>3063192
Yeah the black and white thinking doesn't help.

No. 3063195>>3076887

>>3063192
she's spoken about having schizophrenia, not autism

No. 3063217

The most popular opinion on this site but god autistic men are… something. You never truly become blackpilled until you see how autistic men act.
>incel
>black and white thinking (muh women vs Chad)
>animu for everything, can't do anything without animu
>pedophilia, always pedophilia
Again dime a dozen experience and opinion, we all know, but after experiencing this firsthand properly, damn. Like truly

No. 3065530>>3065565

Tried really hard to give my bippie friend a chance and I stayed with her for 5 years but I cannot do it anymore. I know it's an illness and not her fault but Jesus Christ, she is a horrible person to be around and no matter how much energy you put into her, she is just a black hole. She kept making promises to be better and in her lovebombing phases, she'd tell me nice things and vowed that we'll do fun things in the future and it kinda drew me back in, we even planned a holiday which she cancelled 5 times in a row and I kept being there for her but she is always so close to being great but what she promises never happens. When she has lows she'd insult me and just leave me on read and not pick up even though she knows I'd worry about her and then she'd just say she is at a concert with a friend. Then 2 days later she'd call me crying how the friend had betrayed her and it's defcon 5 and I need to calm her and be there for her. So far all people in her life have left her and she kept saying "but Nona you wouldn't do that would you, you aren't like them?". At the start I believed she just chose the wrong friends but now I'm on the friends' side lol. The final straw was when she said she wished she had a friend who'd be there for her..after I literally was there for her 5 years and all her shit

No. 3065565>>3066554

>>3065530
Her issue isn't that she is mentally ill, she is selfish and self-absorbed first and foremost, and blames her mental illness for that. That's why everyone leaves her, but instead of changing, she uses that fact to guilt trip people in her life who's only sin was associating with her to begin with. That whole "I will get better I promise" spiel is nothing but emotional manipulation and she knows that, which is why she doesn't deserve friends and she doesn't deserve you. She is not entitled to your heart and tears, nonna

No. 3065934

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Literally anyone who won't stop demanding my fucking attention.

No. 3066554

>>3065565
Thank you, I needed to hear that. I won't continue our "friendship", albeit it pains me because early on she was a good friend but I realize it wasn't real and all the years I just yearned to get back to that version of her. I didn't reply to her for one week now and she never reached out to me at all, even though it's unusual for me so it just emphasizes how little of a shit she gives about me

No. 3066681

A bippie made me spiral into full blown depression and anxiety, they're actual demons. I hate when people say shit like "you wont look cool when you will kill yourself over a boy" and I agree that many suicidal attemps are attention seeking but in my case, beware of blog but this has to serve as an example of how destructive they are, I grew up as "average pretty" autistic girl, meaning I only had creepy attention towards me but never actual connection because I didn't click with no one due to my social impairments. In my life, starting as a young teen, I was fucking molested because I was accused of being a pretty girl that was purposely acting dumb when in reality I didn't care/didnt get the whole flirting thing so that made me desirable at the eyes of moids?? what the fuck?
Anyway, growing up like this fucks up your entire perception and your self esteem, like I seriously thought at sixteen that I was only good as a sex object because I had nothing to offer and didn't deserve love (hey, I was a teen, I am social retarded to this day and I was hormonal, bear with me), to the point I was cool of being the side bitch of a dude if at least I got some positive attention and not insults then one day, this demon, this absolute poor excuse of a human being came into my life at 18.
He pretended and faked his personality to match mine, he fake laughed at my weird humor, he faked being into the things I was into and mind you, when you go all your life believing that you have to suppress your weirdness you kinda dig it, you know? He faked everything. He even fake wanted to get matching tattoos since I was getting into them.
Until one day, after he knew that he had me wrapped around his finger, he started being randomly mean and accusing me of it.
"Oh nona, you're annoying" "W-What? But you said-" "Yeah but can't you see I have things to do?"
"Oh nona, you're so mean when you engange in your interests (when it wasn't a problem till that exact moment) and you can't see how bad I'm hurting!" "But why didn't you tell me you're hurting?" "You have to FEEL it you insensitive cunt! You self absorbed bitch!"
and so on. I blamed myself for his evilness. I blamed myself once again for not being good enough.
Until one day, this was many years ago, he changed his status to engaged to another person.
"…Moid? What?"
"Oh yeah I didn't tell you?"
"No?"
"Yeah I knew this girl"
"…But we've been together for months? We were going out and having sex and all that? You said you loved me?"
"Yeah but we never officialized it, did I ever call you my girlfriend?"
That was the last straw that threw me into a full depression episode that lasted years. yes, years.
Because I blamed myself not for being weird, but for being stupid. I fell for his love bombing and then I had to deal with his random rage outbursts, I let him use my body and then he threw me away the moment he wasn't getting the right attention from me. I let him sweet talk me, I believed him and then I wasn't paranoid enough nor I didn't question him when he was on the phone while we were out at restaurants (I assumed he was looking at random stuff, like I browse lc when I'm on my phone outside kek). I was stupid.
I started not trusting anyone, I started being suspicious of anyone that came near me except my parents because what would they gain from me? I started not going out, I started being fucking agoraphobic because I was afraid of being molested again or "lured" into this kind of relationships again because I'm still a bit naive and to me, since I'm an autist, it doesn't make sense to be evil you know? When I heavily dislike someone I simply ignore them and if I want something I simply get it because manipulating people requires a fuck ton of energies that I don't have (plus I think it's retarded, if you have to manipulate people to have sex with them, you're no better than an actual retard that can't speak properly).
I had suicidal intentions because I didn't see a way out, I didn't see the good in anybody and everything. I know that maybe this would also sound like those narcs that believe the world revolves around them but try to see things by my point of view.
I'm a grown adult now and I did a lot of therapy to get out of this, I don't want to kill myself anymore but everytime I see his name, since we live in the same city, there's something that breaks in me again because how come that this spawn of hell is free to do whatever he wants out there and no one is making him accountable? How come that every girlfriend of his has something to say, since a couple reached out to me because he was stupid enoug to say my full name but then shut themselves like they're admitting war crimes? I don't understand. End bippie men.

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the bippie that split up our friend group broke up with her boyfriend and has been in another state for at least 3 months. But two other people in the group are getting married, and they apparently have still kept her invite. WHY?
I hate how fucking stupid my friends are. What really pisses me off is that I used to live with the BPD. People warned me about it. I thought oh no, it can't be that bad, and I got burned for it. These fucks acted like "oh well we told you so" with very little sympathy for me. That I suppose I can understand, but why still invite her then? So, you guys are just as retarded? And you're okay with her potentially ruining your day? Fucking insane.

No. 3066832>>3066854>>3067199

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Has anyone noticed a huge uptick in public tard encounters? I guess in the long term because they're not being sequestered in asylums anymore, further encouraged by carer discounts and lack of public scrutiny out of pity. But comparing how many I used to see in public growing up vs now, it really feels like this generation of parents have spawned so many of them.

Maybe I just woke up to it after working in retail. So many of them on public transit but tbf the region I was commuting through was infamous for high incest rates. Job listing sites are 90% carer jobs now and yes I know some are old people's homes but still. Bleak.

I deeply relate to the earlier thread discussions on tard hires (especially the males) ruining everything, because thinking about my experiences with both coworkers and customers still makes me shudder. I asked two carers sitting with a tardscrote on our lobby sofa if they were okay because they were acting strange, one gave me the look of a terrified prey animal and forced a smile, said everything was fine before the motley trio fled the scene of the crime, limping tard in tow. I inspected the sofa - he had pissed all over it.

No. 3066854>>3067326

>>3066832
I feel like everyone outside is just a drooling zombie. Not sure if they are just tarded or legitimately low Iq but whatever happened 2019/2020 cost a lot of people a good number of braincells and it shows. They just scroll on their phone and order from TikTok shop. Even the doctors are the patients now

No. 3067199

>>3066832
It's because mainstream media is feeding them the lie that tards (autists or full blown down syndrome) are like everyone else, ignoring their actual needs and dignity. If I had a severely autistic son I wouldn't bring him outside because I know that the world wouldn't be kind to him and to avoid accidents like you said. They do not thrive outside, in fact they get overstimulated and bullied, they don't need much company anyway, that's rough to say but it's true. Every autist I know, the profound ones, yells outside because of noise or light or too much stimuli in general, they throw things around and are hard to deal with outside because the mother has to idk, shop/run errands with them on her arm like an anchor. It's all a big lie.

No. 3067326

>>3066854
>whatever happened 2019/2020
are you serious

No. 3069440>>3069463

How do you know when a bippie actually needs help? My friend conditioned me to be blase about her "suicidal episodes" because they've always been attention seeking and emotional manipulation. At first I was constantly worried but then I realized that she never actually was in danger or meant it so I stopped worring as much. Whenever I would check in, she'd just be out with other friends or playing games or traveling and it made me feel stupid to be so invested. Now she hasn't been online in a week and I wonder if I should check in. I obviously don't want her to hurt herself or anything but I also don't want to be the idiot who keeps fighting for her when she is just having a good time and using me on the side. I should have probably cut her off a long time ago but it's been hard

No. 3069463>>3069472

>>3069440
From my experience it's when things are going very well for them/they have nothing to complain about. I had a bippie friend, she was in and out of hospitals for years and self harmed a lot. Out of nowhere she was discharged for good, got a job and joined a local acting group in a short time frame, she seemed really well to me and was nothing but positive. She killed herself a few months after she was let out, it was a shock at first but in hindsight all of that recovery she made was a massive red flag because it happened far too quickly given how long she was unwell for.

No. 3069472>>3069495

>>3069463
That's horrible, I am sorry for what happened. I can't even imagine but you definitely couldn't have known. My friend is also in therapy but she had been complaining about how it doesn't work. To me, she has been mostly in a negative state, constantly seeking me for help regarding issues in her life but I also saw her conversations with other friends where she is upbeat and 180 different than with me, so I never really know what she actually feels if anything at all

No. 3069495

>>3069472
It sounds like she gets by on small dopamine hits (the conversations with friends/hanging out with them) but when she's having a harder time she comes to you. Bippie mood swings are very random and seemingly come from nowhere so that might explain some of it. I feel for you because you can't really fix a bippie and you'll exhaust yourself by trying. My best advice is (and this is all assuming she's somewhat reasonable and not batshit crazy) to be a positive influence for her by introducing her to some meaningful past times. Even if you guys just regularly watch a movie together, or join a local club/community, start a hobby together, anything that will give her a few more reasons to enjoy her life and to chose living. I don't mean for you to go above and beyond for her, but more being a hands on type of friend than just a shoulder to cry on. I think that once she has consistent positives around she will feel a little more grounded and might make an attempt to improve things herself. You'll be demonstrating you are there for her but getting some of that weight off your shoulders too. If you want to reach out, I'd go with something like "Hey, I've missed you, did you want to hang out sometime?" rather than "Hey, are you alright?", it still shows you care about her but makes it harder to force you to console her. Best of luck nona ♥.

No. 3070556

Mental health services and awareness are good and dandy but wish we'd have more stigma for those who show it in public kek. Yes we should totally sympathise with that schizophrenic drug addict who's jacking off right in the middle of the children's jungle gym because reeee he's just a poor mentolee eel baby. Oh this psychopath who murdered a family of five in an ""episode"" was just upset because he didn't get the help he needed. Oh this tranny was just upset in their born body, it's sad how transphobic life is, their parents should've paid for the titchop.
My tinfoil is that a lot of awareness is just some psyop to normalise violent behavior. I mean look at the clueless normies who now think ASPD is just being a bit confused with empathy and not literal domestic abuse, prison, rape and pedo cases kek.
If you've worked anywhere near actual survivors or legal services for them, if a survivor fights back against an abuser who claims mental illness, they get accused of being the actual abuser exploiting that poor person's helpless vulnerable state. What a joke.
>ackshually if someone is violent due to their mental illness, their family/kids get taken away for protection!
Go into the REAL world rather than reading only theoretical maxims that never get applied irl.

No. 3070750>>3070854>>3071230

There is nothing wrong with saying "everyone's a little bit autistic", despite spergs getting triggered about it because reeee it's so insensitive to their totally yoonique experiences

No. 3070854

>>3070750
I get why parents of severe level 3 autists get offended (because everyone tries to talk over their experiences when their reality is extremely depressing), but if an autist is capable of exercising independence then it is true. It's why every mental disorder has a set of several symptoms that characterizes it, because alone each symptom is not uncommon.

No. 3071230

>>3070750
Its a retarded phrase used by retards

No. 3071892

Autists are failed narcs. All of the self centred thinking and the intellectual garbage and can't even be successful about it.

No. 3073770

If you're going to be an terminally online autist the least you can do is learn to use punctuation. So many of these motherfuckers hit people with the
>I don't like using it I don't see how it's necessary you can already tell what I'm typing and what I'm saying so why should I bother
Probably why they never graduate gradeschool. Fucking losers.

No. 3076748>>3077738>>3077809>>3077907

One thing I haven't seen much about BPD here is examples of their identity disturbance. When I first heard the term I genuinely didn't know how bad it was and admittedly once thought it was something simple like a person trying on different aesthetics or acting like their favourite character after watching a show and not being satisfied (aka everyone at some point) kek.
Meanwhile it's a structural absence of self i.e. morals, life goals, ethics since they don't know who they are at a fundamental level. It might not even be a "mask", like they truly, genuinely agree with you in the moment and then they find someone they're also attached to whose beliefs are the opposite of yours, and then truly, genuinely agree with them too in the next moment.

No wonder bpdchans make terrible friends; their ethics will COMPLETELY mold to whatever shitty abusive trash trailer scrote they're into that week (and of course they can never find someone normal, because they love the dopamine that comes with someone fucked up who disrespects them). And god forbid you have any kind of conflict with someone because they'll immediately go tattletale for the drama. Their selves aren't stable enough to have fixed anything. "Whatever HE likes, I like!" and multiplied.
They also happen to despise anyone who has a stable worldview and stable goals and morals too, but that's another can of worms

No. 3076887>>3079408

I hate codependents/inverted narcissists. Lots of people think that just means clingy/enmeshed, but that’s not true - it means someone who’s enabling someone awful because they get something out of the caretaking role. Traditionally used in the context where the “someone awful” is an alcoholic, but it applies to lots of other situations, too. It makes me so sad to see women give up their life in service of man-children, and angry when I realize I’m being recruited into their chain to funnel my energy and resources into their pet bottomless pits. There are even some examples in this thread. I’m probably a codependent, too, because I wish to change the codependents who wish to change the addicts…

>>3063195
Autism used to be considered a type of schizophrenia. I don’t know why that’s not more common knowledge. I was once close with a high-functioning autist and she did jump to wack-ass conclusions, just like a schizo thinks a red car means the CIA is following them. As I got to know her better, I realized she was saying things that didn’t add up. I had to cut her off because I just couldn’t trust her anymore - not because she was lying on purpose, but because she couldn’t correctly perceive the truth.

No. 3077556

I don't get it when autists say they're so much more deeper and realer in personality than le annoying normies. Mate your entire personality is you larping an anime character, normal people have plenty of facets to their personality. It's the most hilarious cope for their lack of social skills.

unrelated but I've been thinking of this post >>3026636 for some reason like this genuinely feels fishy/like nona's mom/nigel discovered lc and decided to wk

No. 3077677>>3078023>>3078146

Controversial but that type of older "narcissistic abuse survivor" who makes it their entire personality is often narcissistic themselves. And no, not as a reactive defense thing, they were narcissistic to begin with. Clusterbees get drawn to each other, most normies can smell the narc's bullshit.
Now I deeply sympathise with an abused child of a narc or a young person because that's a different thing, but seeing fucking retards in their 60s start podcasts and blogs about how newly enlightened they are after their Narcissistic Evil Ex Wife did narcissistic evil things is laughable. The way they speak about events always has them telling on themselves, they often reveal stuff like how they were addicted to the drama too. Also they love to call everyone in their life narcissists. Their own kids, the neighbour's dog, the lady at the tax office. At some point they need to look inwards.

No. 3077738>>3077752

>>3076748
Once I saw the total void of a bpdchan, i was legitimately shocked because I couldn't understand such a complete black hole of a person. Not even their feelings are real, they have no likes or dislikes, no dreams of their own. Everything they present is borrowed and on a timer

No. 3077752

>>3077738
Is that what it is? Same experience then. I didn't know what that void meant in regards to BPD, I thought it was just the same as a depressed normie, since they also feel "empty" and chronically dead inside. But even the most MDD people still have real feelings and thoughts of their own, despite them being locked away, if that makes sense?

No. 3077809>>3077818>>3084095

>>3076748
The bippie I know fucking trooned out for attention. Yeah I know, all troons do it for attention but he did it because their old personality change didn't bring anymore attention.
In order, they tried to be an artist, then a cosplayer, then they tried competitive videogames, then they wanted to be a game developer, then they wanted to play piano, then crafts, then concept art, then writing, then tablet top games but since these hobbies didn't stick because they didn't bring them attention, they started going all in with shit like from being a /r9k/ robot incel to whore themselves out by saying that they could do whatever they want and nobody should judged, dressed like a raver and being a creep then they tried being an intellectual with almost all of their hair shaved down, glasses and good clothes and diet, they lost 20kgs and became the "uhm akcthtually guy" then they faked a mental illness and one week later, with no therapy, they had full knowledge of the disorder and became a spokeperson of it then the hype was dying down and the trooning out began and they became obese. It's like they reinvent themselves and don't actually remember all of their past lives and when you try to point out any holes in their story, they go "yeah I was naive, I didn't know!". They change personality, morals, everything around them, they can be your friend one minute and enemies the other because they are different people everytime. They could say shit like "I never liked you!" because in that moment the past and the buildup of their character doesn't exist. Everyone is a progress of themselves, they are just dangerous black holes and I say dangerous because they are so good at it, they attract a lot of people and hurt them deeply.

No. 3077818>>3077859>>3077907

>>3077809
Interesting stories here, pretty eye opening tbh, kek.
>It's like they reinvent themselves and don't actually remember all of their past lives
Yeah, this phenomenon baffles me. I genuinely thought it was simpler, like some normie going through a million tiktok phases, but the difference between the bippie and the phase normie is that the latter still naturally acknowledges their phases as part of them? Even if they find it cringe and want to die and hide everything, they're still aware and acknowledge it. Meanwhile the bippie is genuinely a black hole. Plus the normie still retains their "base" values, personality and morals

No. 3077859

>>3077818
Just shows you that it is indeed an illness, it's like they have amnesia. They treat you like shit but sleep like babies at night, there is no accountability and there cannot be because they are 100 percent thinking they are right. I always thought they do it because they genuinely don't know better and are caught up in their emotions but then I had this one friend. She'd ask me to be there for her and basically demand I write back immediately and when I didn't she'd freak out - meanwhile she'd take months to even reply to a simple text. At the start I believed she does it without noticing so one day I asked her and she answered: yeah it's fine if I don't text back but people should write back to me immediately because I'm more important. I was honestly surprised that she outright said it

No. 3077881

This reminds me of this BPD friend I had when I was a teenager. I don't think she qualified for the full thing, but the traits were there. She openly admitted to me she hated me for being able to have opinions because she herself had none and would merge and latch onto the opinions of whoever she liked. I was honestly baffled. Like, how do you live like that? I wasn't even being overly opinionated or anything.
Even people-pleasing types still have their opinions, they just might repress them. But bpdchans have none to begin with and that scares me.

No. 3077905>>3077906

On the topic of borderline, can someone give me some insight? My friend is either super into me or completely ignoring me and i can't take it anymore. When I confronted her and told her it feels like she doesn't want to hang out anymore she said that she loves me and I'm her best friend. I walked away from that conversation feeling better and I was hopeful for the future. Well, one day later she was back to ignoring me and not calling/texting basically left me on read. Then a couple days later she messaged me how well she did at volleyball. Not a single question about me. Literally just talking about her achivements. I just don't understand it anymore.

No. 3077906>>3077908

>>3077905
They're like that. They're self centred and ironically love to claim they're such hyper empaths when all they do is make it about themselves. Attention is like oxygen to clusterbees

No. 3077907>>3077911

>>3076748
>>3077818
I'm retarded but do you have any practical examples of this?

No. 3077908>>3077911>>3077933

>>3077906
I just don't get it how they can go from daily hourly long phone chats were everything is great to going full no contact for a couple weeks and then coming back like nothing happened? I guess that's what you guys talked about when you said they forget their previous persona entirely. That's what it feels like. Like I cannot even get her to take responsibility because she doesn't even know what I'm talking about. Since she dropped me again I've been mulling over our chats and realized that she is only ever talking about herself to be honest, it's always either something great happened and she wants me to applaud her or something awful happened and I need to cheer her up. Looking back the entire friendship is a lie

No. 3077911

>>3077907
Those weren't examples enough?
Well say you try a thing, you drop it because it doesn't fit ya, you try another thing. The self doing the trying stays the same throughout. Actual identity disturbance means there's no stable self doing the trying to begin with. The trying is all there is. There's no base underneath going "hmm this one's more me" because there's no "me" running the comparison to begin with. Each new aesthetic or identity isn't tried on with a bippie, it's inhabited completely and then abandoned completely, with no continuity between them.
The difference is whether you can look back and go "lol I had a X phase." If you can narrate it as a phase, you have a continuous self that persisted through it. Even if the phase makes you want to die of cringe. BPD identity disturbance means they can't narrate it that way because the person in the phase wasn't them in any felt sense. There's no narrator above the phases

>>3077908
>going full no contact for a couple weeks and then coming back like nothing happened
Emotional disturbance. They always chalk it up to "uhh i was struggling" but there's a difference between people who can't reply because of depression or being busy and bippies cutting you out of nowhere (then often claiming you abandoned them first!)

No. 3077933>>3077944>>3077950

>>3077908
its a literal mental disorder, just stop being friends with them if it bothers you. they probably couldn’t explain it to you if you asked because they are genuinely mentally disturbed. who cares if they say you “abandoned them” later down the line. they are mentally ill, avoid them.

No. 3077944>>3077950>>3078011

>>3077933
So it's basically like schizophrenia? The thing that puts me off is that they seemingly know what they do, they just don't care. I mean they don't try to better themselves or fix their issues, I have seen people with other illnesses who do care and want to go to therapy and get better and they take accountability. I think saying that its a mental illness and just to deal with it takes away all the responsibility that they have

No. 3077950>>3077957>>3077962

>>3077944
>>3077933
It's not a mental illness, it's a personality disorder aka worse. It's literally who they are as a person and incurable. A mental illness is something like depression or anxiety which is simpler and curable
>I think saying that its a mental illness and just to deal with it takes away all the responsibility that they have
Actually yeah

No. 3077957>>3077961>>3078014

>>3077950
Going into the weeds there, permanent personality changes from brain damage are classified as a mental illness

No. 3077961>>3077972

>>3077957
Isn't that a disorder? Illness is a different term, but this is pedantic. Even so TBIs aren't as bad as bippies

No. 3077962>>3077965

>>3077950
What's the point of keeping someone like that in your life then? What you are saying is that they are unable to take accountability, however they seem to function completely fine in academia and jobs. Even if they seek therapy, it doesn't work and there are no pills for it so you just have to wait until they get old and it slows down or what? I'm just not buying this total absolvement from all answerbility, they aren't mentally incapacitated and they know what they are doing. Ultimately they are just shit people who don't want to change, don't mind hurting and using others and are open about it and that's it. The best they can get out of someone is a couple years before the person realises that the relationship is one sided and leaves. Truly sad

No. 3077965

>>3077962
None, duh?
>they aren't mentally incapacitated and they know what they are doing
Yeah? That's true too ofc

No. 3077972

>>3077961
Nah for some reason the ICD places it under the mental illness category.
>Even so TBIs aren't as bad as bippies
A lot of them are on par or much worse. TBIs can cause people to become insane uncontrollable perverts with intense anger issues, particularly in moids but that's a given.

No. 3077992>>3078023

People with social anxiety, and some if not most anxiety. What do you mean? Just do the call yourself jfc. You seriously cannot call your doctor at the age of 30? Be fucking for real.

No. 3078011>>3078017

>>3077944
what? you were complaining about a friend, and i said you should stop being friends w a mentally ill person, if their mental illness is the issue. im not saying they aren’t accountable for getting better, they definitely are, but you dont have to suffer and beg for an explanation while they wallow in their own self pity.

No. 3078014

>>3077957
thank you….since when are we saying bpd isnt a mental illness or these people arent menally ill lmao, like whats the point of that, a mental illness isnt an excuse to be a shitty person

No. 3078017>>3078101

>>3078011
I completely get that, I appreciate you. I just feel like after all these years I want an apology but I also understand there won't be one and if there is - it won't be sincere anyway. It just feels bad to throw such a long friendship away. It's like there is a fine line where I'm basically either abandoning a mental ill person who didn't choose their illness and that part makes me feel awful but on the flipside also a person who just sucks the joy out of me and wastes my energy and time without giving anything back at all except taking more.

No. 3078023>>3078050

>>3077677
>"narcissistic abuse survivor" who makes it their entire personality is often narcissistic themselves
Absolute truth. Particularly the ones who decide that they must become the prophet of narcissism and teach people how to "train their narcs." The training doesn't work, and it just encourages people to lash themselves to problem people instead of get out of an abuse situation.
>>3077992
Genuinely, I have yet to see a case of social anxiety in adults that can't be explained by excess self-absorption. "Ummm but they're judging me." No they're fucking not, and why would you care if they were? You're going to spend all of five seconds interacting with them and then both of you will move on with life.

No. 3078050>>3078080

>>3078023
>No they're fucking not
That's a lie and you know it. Especially in contexts where everyone knows each other. You're correct when you say we shouldn't care though. I can't really say I had anxiety but when I was younger I was told all the time that nobody cares what I do and I should just be myself and all that bullshit just to meet some people from 15 or 20 years ago by accident lately that I never even talked to who remembered my first and last name, in which class I was in the same school, what I looked like, who joked about how weird my hair looked because of white hairdressers being retarded or how short I was because of a disability which I was bullied for, and told me to say hi to one of my siblings. And I'm from a big city. People with anxiety are annoying as fuck and I eventually kept my distance from someone I know because of her own anxiety but telling them nobody cares about them isn't going to help them at all.

No. 3078080>>3078175

People with misophonia, fuck off.
>DON'T CHEW CHIPS AROUND ME RAHHHHHH IT SETS OFF MY TISM-POWERED HEARING RAHHHHHH!! HULK SMASH!!
>>3078050
Nobody actually cares though, social anxiety is just a form of narcissism because of constantly thinking if how other people perceive you. Believing that nobody cares about you is better than being retarded and thinking every single person you've ever passed by in your life has created a perfect 1:1 version of you in their head that they laugh at constantly.

No. 3078101

>>3078017
choose yourself everytime anon.

No. 3078146

>>3077677
margaret palermo is the biggest poster child for this lol. somehow every person in her history is an alleged narcissist

No. 3078175

>>3078080
>Believing that nobody cares about you is better than being retarded
No, thinking that it doesn't matter if anybody thinks too much about you is far better. If you lie to yourself about people not caring about you and later you find out some weirdos actually do it's going to backfire. Learning to not give a shit in the first place is better in the long run.

No. 3079251>>3079408>>3079766>>3079768

I don't get why so many people think a person can't have both autism and BPD. The meltdowns and arrested development are the exact same.

No. 3079408

>>3076887
>Autism used to be considered a type of schizophrenia. I don’t know why that’s not more common knowledge. I was once close with a high-functioning autist and she did jump to wack-ass conclusions, just like a schizo thinks a red car means the CIA is following them. As I got to know her better, I realized she was saying things that didn’t add up. I had to cut her off because I just couldn’t trust her anymore - not because she was lying on purpose, but because she couldn’t correctly perceive the truth.
Yeah, I've experienced this from an autistic person but I didn't think it was literal belief in that stuff it was just invented drama to give themselves dopamine and social connectedness that they can't get naturally. Most autists I've met have a fixation on social status because they rarely get any wins or inclusion and being stalked by the cia would make you feel important.
>>3079251
Not really. BPDs are socially manipulative and copy others to try and achieve a sense of security that they don't have from their lack of self, autists have very rigid interests and can't read the room socially at all. Autists have meltdowns that come from being unable to control their environment, usually set off by physical sound or food triggers, BPDs have meltdowns from being unable to control people. Literally everyone yells and screams and punches things if they get angry enough. Being good at copying others and picking up on trends is where BPDs get their phases from, an autist couldn't do that.

No. 3079766

>>3079251
not to say it's not possible, but imo adhd and bpd have more overlap. both cycle through their obsessions so fast you can't tell if they were ever truly into it. as an autist, i associate asd with the ultimate stability, because you thrive on routines and have interests that don't change for many years. bpd and adhds are always the most exhausting and non-committal people to me lol

No. 3079768>>3080326

>>3079251
People with autism have a fifty percent chance of also having a personality disorder. It's common.

No. 3080326

>>3079768
source?

No. 3080356>>3080767>>3083444

Out of curiosity, if you’ve ever dealt with someone (man/woman) with undiagnosed BPD, how did they behave? What stands out about a bippie who is unaware of their disorder and even rejects having it? Could they come across as normal? My main association with BPD has been characterised by misogynistic 4chan memes and eccentric lolcows, so I feel like my frame of reference is poor. Would be helpful in maybe understanding some people in my life, lol

No. 3080586

People without a sense of self. Not necessarily BPD void though, can be a lot of similar things that overlap. Every time you do something, they try to do it too. Whether it be to one-up you or for attention or just because they have genuinely nothing else to do.
I don't care if it makes me selfish or makes me look like I wanna be yoonique, it's creepy to have someone copy and skinwalk you. And yes the way they do it is not some typical friend-getting-into-your-hobby inspo either.

No. 3080767

>>3080356
The original book about BPD is called I Hate You, Don't Leave Me, and talks about how one of the reference points was Princess Diana. It's quite short if you wanted to read it.

No. 3083444

>>3080356
In my experience, they do this weird lovebombing thing where they target a person with low self esteem and glaze the fuck out of them. Night comes, some awitch flips, and they dig into the person in the weirdest, most targetted manner. Night ends, they apologize. Morning comes, they lovebomb. Rinse and repeat on a religiously accurate timer. Stands out like a sore thumb. When you finally break free from them, you become public enemy number one to them, and they will do whatever it takes, 24/7 to make you feel like ass no matter how gently you let them go.
>t. dealt with several of them in the past without knowing what the fuck BPD even was until years later

No. 3084041>>3084050>>3084143>>3084613>>3084695

This has likely been mentioned multiple times already but I hate how autists take everything so literally. "Ermm actually you can't be homophobic it's not a phobia" like no shit retard it's clearly just referring to anti-gay sentiment.

No. 3084050>>3084087

>>3084041
homophobia/transphobia etc are fucking retarded terms to be mocked

No. 3084087

>>3084050
>t. Autist

No. 3084090>>3087035

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I don't know if this is the right thread exactly but I found picrel in the wild. Jesus fucking christ, kek

No. 3084095>>3084135

>>3077809
Why are you going out of your way to they/them the bippie when you've already told us in the opening that he's male?

No. 3084135

>>3084095
Accidentally left that in and in they/them'ed him because I know he browses and didn't want more shit to deal with but I guess that my honesty betrayed me.

No. 3084143

>>3084041
it's called being pedantic. a lot of people are like that even when they're not autistic, unfortunately.

No. 3084535

the last couple of weeks I keep running into autistic men who think they should just be able to do whatever they want all the time, and people should just not have boundaries or be okay with paying for them to exist because is it really that hard? they're just one person? and it's not that much you should just ignore that you're stuck in a waiting room with them and they haven't showered for weeks because it's so hard omg. I don't understand how they don't feel shame about constantly taking from people and never giving back.

No. 3084613

>>3084041
well actually it IS a phobia, because a phobia can also mean an irrational hatred

No. 3084695

>>3084041
I find autistic people insufferable to be honest, especially the higher functioning ones

No. 3084906

I hate munchies, pathetic attention seeking fucks.
Oo! Oo! look at me! oo! I'm so sick! Ooo! I will make myself/a defensless person sick so you can look at me! Please! Look!

No. 3087035

>>3084090
Why is everyone obsessed with larping npd now? A psyop to humanise abusers?

No. 3088138

Ironic considering where I am, but I find it really embarrassing seeing most autists try to do art. Autism is literally arrested development, they have poor and childish understandings of shapes, colours and objects. It's like watching a kindergartner try to draw their parents. Plus the need for repetition has them drawing the same ugly shit over and over again. Some can take art courses or go to art school but it doesn't really help much due to their rigidity. That's ignoring the media or subjects of their art which are also shit only 10yos are into.

No. 3088143>>3088157>>3088195

Genuine question, WHY am I supposed to find it a "compliment" if a bippie or some other type that has zero self/identity starts latching onto me and changing their entire self to try and appeal to me?
>oh they like you so much in particular, they went through the effort of doing that!
Yeah but it's not normal whatsoever? There's a difference between a person deciding to pick up your hobby because they find it cool after seeing you do it, vs someone straight up skinwalking you because they have no self in the hopes you get lured into their bullshit.
Basic human social instincts should see this behaviour as predatory at worst and disingenuous socially at best. Plus they don't like you in particular, you're not the special chosen one, they'll find something new in roughly 2 days and discard you too. Why do I have to find this an honour? Even a few normie therapists told me to cut them some slack once.

No. 3088157>>3088165

>>3088143
They like the image of you they’ve projected into their own head. When you show any evidence of not being exactly like that they ‘split’ and decide you’re evil.

No. 3088165

>>3088157
Exactly, maybe I'd be touched if they actually intuited the real me and were genuine/"permanent" with their skinwalking. But their imagination of the person they skinwalk is utter fiction

No. 3088195

>>3088143
Because the majority of people are vain. I swear, I grew up believing that I was stupid but a lot of people are vain. They will find any kind of attention flattering, some people even find stalking cute because makes them feel important. Well adjusted people don't need un-meaningful attention and since bippies are the worst offenders at this, they simply copy what you like and would rather become your walking mirror that actually develop a charming personality because their entire existence is skinwalk after skinwalk, their disorder prevents them to develop such a crucial part of their psyche but the people outside of it only see it as puppy love because they don't see the demons hiding behind it, they don't see the tard fits they get when you aren't the perfect goddess that they pictured in their head, since they follow a script, they expect you to also do it.

No. 3088396>>3088400>>3089549

All that medication and illegal drug talk in the ADHD thread is reinforcing my belief that ADHD isn't real. Much of the autism talk in that thread is about coping skills or learning social tricks, but the ADHD side is just Vyvanse this, dextroamphetamine that, and at least one anon unironically advocating for meth and another for LSD. God forbid any of us want to talk about how to keep a schedule without insane levels of drugs.

No. 3088400

>>3088396
Everyone dunked on the person for advocating for meth use though. Anyway psychotherapy is actually more effective at treating ADHD than medication. It's just that most people don't go to psychotherapy because it's expensive and hard.

No. 3089502

>>3089494
Are you the BPD mom or the child molester boyfriend?

No. 3089504>>3089572

>>3089494
You were doing this a month ago too, exact same post. Something you want to tell us about nonna?

No. 3089549>>3089556>>3090452

>>3088396
I don’t believe in ADHD. I believe ADHD is a categorization of a series of behaviors frowned upon in modern society, and that people are led to believe this needs to be corrected by drugs. I also think its more common with bad parents. I hate the idea of kids given powerful meds to mold them into whatever, especially ines as addictive as adderall, vyvanse, etc

No. 3089556

>>3089549
>I also think its more common with bad parents.
Absolute truth. It's very difficult to tell the difference between ADHD and someone who just wasn't raised right. Children who grow up without anything expected of them tend to have problems with attention and punctuality as adults, who would have guessed?
>I hate the idea of kids given powerful meds to mold them into whatever
Sincerely, I cannot wait until we see psychiatric treatment of children the way we see lobotomies today. It's actually heinous to give a child psych meds when their brains are still developing.

No. 3089562>>3089566

Why does >>2943816 have two bait replies? Assuming they're not the same person. But did that anon's mom or pedo boyfriend find this site or track her device history or something? It has to be kek like surely it can't be just a normal troll, there are plenty of other stories about violence and csa in these threads but they're going for this one in particular? Or maybe I'm writing fiction
On the rare chance it isn't and maybe replier is just really mentally stunted then uhh getting "annoyed" by kids isn't an excuse to rape them, whatever it's probably bait isn't it.

No. 3089566>>3089572

>>3089562
>Assuming they're not the same person.
I genuinely think it's the same mentally ill pickme as before

No. 3089572

>>3089504
I don't think that's a nonna kek
>>3089566
Maybe it's really the mom/bf, a typical one would go for like 50 other posts itt

No. 3089573>>3089581

>>3089569
Or just someone who got offended on their behalf because she has a pedo Nigel

No. 3089581

>>3089573
Never doubt the insanity of a pickme defending a pedo nigel. If that mental strength and stubbornness was made physical, she would be stronger than every human on earth combined. >>3026767 is right

No. 3090160>>3090240>>3090401>>3090486>>3090808

I've learned the hard way that gray rock does not work on most narcissists, because they either want control and view it as insubordination, or they want attention and have a meltdown when they percive that they're being rejected. Sometimes, it causes the opposite problem where they percive disengagenent as you ceding space to them, and they'll happily talk at you endlessly anyway because they think you're a "listener." This is particularly problemic if the person is in a position of authority to you, like a parent, a boss, or a landlord. Covert narcissists (martyr complex) are particularly likely to explode when you do this. Attempt with caution.

No. 3090240

>>3090160
I genuinely hate it when people act like grey rocking is some cure-all. If an attention-seeking abuser sees you go quiet and ignore them, what are they gonna do? Obviously escalate and get your attention, duh. Probably start screaming louder, hitting you harder etc. The best option is to fucking leave.

No. 3090401>>3090486

>>3090160
It doesn't work on lots of people, even people who don't have personality disorders. The most recent case I'm dealing with is a coworker who think she can harass me into having personal conversations so long she won't let me go back home on time. If she sees I just reply yes and no to her annoying questions and jokes she gets up from her chair and sits right next to me and starts checking my personal phone's screen in case I'm not paying enough attention to her, or she touches my shoulders and repeats the exact same sentences over and over again to make me react more. Telling her to fuck off is not an option for obvious reasons but that would be the best solution outside of a professional context.

No. 3090431>>3090449>>3090486

I really hate this one aspect of the culture around being a victim of a narcissistic type where they teach victims to "train their narcs" rather than just leave.
I get it feels like finally taking back control but all it does it cause more harm. You can't "train" a "narc", all you're doing is getting yourself into a worse situation and encouraging that in others is only going to cause long term issues for them. It's like a repackaged mentality of "I can fix him".
They also fail to acknowledge the possibility of the abuser type finding out and going ballistic for obvious reasons.

No. 3090436

Mentally ill "caring" parents are the worst. I know someone who is physically disabled and has been coddled for their entire life and because of that won't even attempt to carve out a sliver of independence despite being very capable of doing so. They just have their parents handle everything from feeding, washing and moving them despite both of them being close to retirement age. Any time they've been confronted with the reality of their aging parents they start crying and refusing to listen like a child and their parents coddle them even more instead of telling them to grow up. It's gotten to the point where multiple trips we planned together were cancelled over their recent anxiety of travel which got validated and exacerbated by one of their parents, with hundreds of dollars in fuel and bookings wasted because they didn't even attempt the trip because the parent refused to drive them there since they were too anxious to attend. This entire situation feels hopeless, like a dog biting its own tail, because both parties enable each other's behaviors and I feel sick thinking of the future

No. 3090444

my bpd has officially gone into remission and i physically cannot interact with people with untreated bpd anymore. i had to cut a few people off because i just couldnt handle it anymore, they want to drag me back down into misery because they feel bad they cant recover

No. 3090449

>>3090431
That narcissistic abuse thing is such a grift for pop psych influencers IMHO.
They just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks and naive people eat this shit up and can make the abuse they endure even worse by doing those strategies that obviously don't work.
We've already discussed gray rocking, lmao, this is the go-to advice, it doesn't work.

No. 3090452

>>3089549
I was always diagnosed with it but they didn’t give me stimulants until I was like 20

No. 3090486>>3090500>>3090509>>3090565

>>3090160
>>3090401
>>3090431
grey rocking isn't supposed to witholding a response because they can tell you're witholding and want to provoke a reaction even more. Grey rocking is responding but being as boring as possible so they lose interest. You should talk a lot more, of course a narc likes a person they can just talk at.

No. 3090500>>3090628

>>3090486
>Grey rocking is responding but being as boring as possible so they lose interest
We know and that doesn't work.

No. 3090509

>>3090486
That doesn't work if the person is genuinely nuts or lives off control. If you're "boring", then they'll just get worse and find a way to make you "interesting".
>you should talk more
As if this won't just infuriate them rather than "bore" them

No. 3090565

>>3090486
Best thing you can do is not feed the narc. Ignore them, don't respond. They take any sign from you as a win. They will hate you once you stop serving them and might lash out but you need to not react and they will move on to the next victim on their supply list. Usually they can already tell when you figure them out and just keep you as a holding space before you even start to grey rock them

No. 3090628

>>3090500
It swallowed my post bit grey rocking only works of you ignore the person. It will make them angry but you can't budge, you need to ignore them. They will already sense that you are onto them and focus on new supply while they keep you on the back burner but as soon as you ignore them and don't give them what they want they will move on to someone new and leave you. They might come back later to check if they still have access to you but yeah ignoring them is the only thing that works

No. 3090679

Many disorders have this, but usually any that culminates to realizing they can fix something but don't and end up stagnating or relying on others to do it for them. Learned helplessness. Can't stand it.

No. 3090808

>>3090160
because they know everyone has a cellphone they will just harass tf out of you and the only way you can get them to stop is honest to god going to the police. i think it's a hispanic male problem and sadly the only way you can truly stop it is euthenasia

No. 3091079>>3091134

When BPDs accuse everyone else of having BPD due to their projection or just inability to understand differences. You get angry normally? They think you're just like them and must also go splitting scorched earth violence. You get sad because you didn't get that job? They act like you must be just as empty of a void as them. It's like negging in a weird way

No. 3091134

>>3091079
My rule is that if I come to find out someone has BPD I cut them out of my life or ghost them. You can't trust them at all and they will only hurt you.

No. 3091199>>3091278

I have autism but I have done my best to learn social cues and have control over my emotions. And I hate autists who don't do this. I have had quite a few autistic friends and so many of them say incredibly rude and hurtful things and when you call them out all they can say is
>Well I'm just telling the truth
It's like they can't fathom thinking about another persons feelings cause it's more important to them to spout everything they think no matter the circumstance.

No. 3091278

>>3091199
ime they think because nobody cares about their feelings they don't have to care about anyone else's feelings. They don't understand that people could be a lot harsher and less tolerant they are, and we're seeing a swing back in that direction because of all the ones that don't even try.

No. 3091408>>3091418>>3091504>>3092725>>3092795

After a lot of coping and seething after experiencing a person with BPD, I honestly don't give a fuck what they have been diagnosed with. If individual behavioral patterns keep cropping up and it's always dramatic, nonsensical and rigid, if the person is a bully, if the person is "very particular", if the person exhibits "rules for thee but not for me" behavior, I'm coming out with proverbial guns blazing. I realized that part of what made people with these disorders attracted to me is that I would try and rationalize their behavior and be gentle, try and "see it from both sides". Now I'm absolutely done. I thought being a "tolerant" or gentle person would allot more grace on my part, but people that exhibit those behaviors don't give a single fuck about who you are, they only care about what you do for them. It's time to stop allowing people to fuck with me because I "feel bad". I'm going to go apeshit.

No. 3091418>>3091504>>3092725

>>3091408
honestly i don’t think bpd is real but that kind of person is. i agree with everything you’re saying and i’m tired of people thinking its more fair to play both sides and fuck over everyone around them to avoid “drama”. like deadass just call the behavior out block them and cut them out of your life. who cares. grow up! people who claim they’re being “diplomatic” should remember the phrase “no one likes a diplomat”. if someone is a bully they’re a bully, even if they’re a cry bully. which is what basically every female bully is. i’m so sick of people cowing to bullies like literally just say to yourself who even is that? no. and laugh that they thought they could affect you. being forced to be in a friend group and play along with female bullies or else you’re being “mean” is a version of hell on earth. i won’t do it. i’mma go be happy without these weirdos. i have trauma and mental illnesses too and i only ever clap back. i don’t have to pretend someone had it bad so it’s understandable. that behavior is a choice and an outward expression of an interior mindset. it does that person no favors to be “nice” instead of kind. telling someone their behavior is unacceptable and not enabling them is a tough love kind of kindness. no one should be expected to tolerate abuse or bullying until someone magically changes.

No. 3091504>>3092725

>>3091408
>>3091418
I agree with you guys, they also never even attempt to change or feel bad at all. I have befriended people with other mental illness and somehow they all seem to be capable to say "oh shit, I did something that hurt you I won't do it again" whereas a bdp never once said that to me. It's never their fault, and if it is then they just use their illness as an excuse to have a free for all ticket to do as they please and get away with it and the funniest thing is that whenever they have a problem with you, they seem to have a large friend circle who is just so amazing and loves them so much and those kind of friends just leave them without confronting them so their entire life they just think they are perfect and people betray them. My tinfoil is that all bpd is just a cute way to say they are narcissist. It's also often that when they do seek therapy for attention they twist the truth so someone like that would never get a real honest diagnosis. But anyone says, well it's just a personality disease, you have to deal with it is absolutely full of shit. These kind of people eat you up alive and ruin your entire sense of self and the funny thing is that it's always people pleasers who attract those types so we get pushed past our boundaries thinking we can help someone when in reality we are jus3t getting abused and thrown away

No. 3092725>>3092783>>3094154

>>3091504
>>3091418
>>3091408
Everytime I had an argument with a bippie it was always
>Do something
>Bippie doesn't like it
>Bippie bottles that shit up
>Bippie becomes passive aggressive instead of talking
>"Bippie what's wrong?"
>"Oh why can't you understand?"
>"What?"
>"You did this, anon"
>"Oh, why didn't you tell me in that moment instead of bottling up? I could've listened."
>"Because you're retarded and stupid and you deserve to die and I hate you and you father did a good thing by molesting you as a kid and you deserved your family dying in front of you and your dog getting run over by a car as a kid was an act of kindness by God to you since you're so fucking evil!"
>"Bippie why are you such a cunt"
>"YOU MADE ME ACT LIKE THIS!"
>"So you're saying that you can't control yourself?"
>"No it means that you have to realize what a shit person you are, anon! Never speak to me again! Fuck off"
One week passes and they do shit like
>"Oh anon…I miss you."
Repeat.
When I was in a strict relationship with a bippie and I was already fallen out of any kind of love, it had become a game to see in how much time he (of course, male) would go back to his words and he was always the one to reach out when he said he didn't want me to talk to him, as if I was the one doing that or in how many minutes he would call me again after hanging out and tarding out on me on the phones. The last time was 4 minutes. He expected me to call back yeah kek no.
The reason bpd is being seen as a beautiful princess disorder and not retarded narcissism, which it is, is that their actions are completely random. A true narcissist plans their shit moves carefully and makes everything fall into pieces to craft this perfect version of themselves, plus they lack emotions, bippies wants to do that but they have their hormones all over the place (that's also why is called emotional immaturity, they act like edgy teens) and are impulsive as fuck so they sabotage their same plans and since they cannot self reflect because they don't have a self to reflect to, they blame everything to others. Remember, there's a reason it's in the same cluster a narcissism and that's because don't feel empathy, their "empathy" is just them suffering because you don't provide for them.
Meaning if you're sad one day and you cannot give them your full attention because you have your own shit to take care of, they pull this absolute rancid game of checking your mental status instead of actually caring.
>Oh uhm anon? Are you sad? Are you sad that your mother died? Uhm, ok anon. Uhmmm. Are you still sad anon? Oh, ok. Ok! Uhm. Anon! Anon! Listen, your mom was a good person, ok anon? Ok! Are you still sad, anon? How do you feel anon? Are you better? When will you be better, anon? Later, tomorrow? Anon, I can't live without you(r attention), anon! Please remember this anon! Anon? Why are you still sad? Anon? But you were sad yesterday, why are you also sad today? Please cheer up anon! If you're not happy you cannot provide for me! Anon! So you don't want to leave the house? Anon? But you were supposed to come here and do nothing with me?
It's like a child crying over a broken toy, they're not devastated about the toy, but because they cannot play with it no more.
Never fall for the bippie propaganda, never try to excuse them, most criminals are in the cluster B and bpd men are violent shits. They cannot be saved.

No. 3092783>>3092787

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>>3092725
my favorite bippie argument
(bippie is short with me when I ask her to pick up some shit in our living arrangement)
>bippie: I have demand avoidance so if you ask me to do it now i'm not going to do it now (smug grin)
>me: okay well do it some time soon
>bippie: are you mad at me, are you mad at me, are you mad at me, are you mad at me
>me: (after the third time i say no) well you keep asking me that and it's very annoying.
>bippie: (bursts into treats and stomp-runs into her bedroom crying like a toddler, wails loudly for an hour)
I kicked that bitch out shortly after that, and it was the beginning of the end of my entire attitude towards these types of people. It was actually embarrassing.
>bippie: you're kicking me out!? during a HOMELESS CRISIS?!????!
>bippie 2 weeks later: moves in with pussywhipped younger boyfriend
>bippie 4 months later: effortlessly moves back in with parents at their nice house in the west
Just a pathetic, cringeworthy, childish person. I have to be in the same room with her soon for a mutual friend event, and I'm fully prepared to lob back any of the passive aggressive, sickly sweet, psychopathic shit she directs at me. I am no longer worried about alienating myself from the friend group because I think these people are retarded for entertaining her the same way I did. So it's on. This week it is so fucking on.

No. 3092787>>3092788>>3092795

>>3092783
Grown adults having "demand avoidance" is so embarrassing kek

No. 3092788>>3092795

>>3092787
That can't be real, can it? I barely hear PDA applied to children anymore. I don't want to believe that grown adults are claiming it means anything.

No. 3092795

>>3092788
>>3092787
she claims her BPD is actually autism, which is why I am this anon now: >>3091408
She started saying that she was autistic maybe a year or two after her family member's child was diagnosed with nonverbal autism. The whole thing stunk the moment she started up with it. Then she started doing all kinds of stupid shit, like
>exaggerated stimming
>hypersensitivity to smells and sounds (easy to write it off as such instead of being emotionally volatile)
>becoming obsessed with jelly things and stim toys (lol)
>calling herself autistic in her socials
It's the easiest way to draw attention to herself, so I'd rather not even use the label anymore, as she would love to run that argument into the dirt. I don't care if she has lupus, she's a fucking cunt and if I have to be the first person in the group to shit on her thoroughly I will.

No. 3092882>>3094307

Why are bippies genuinely so racist and sexist half the time? Too bad there's no studies on this shit. Is it their lower intelligence?
I know autism b&w thinking is different from bippie splitting but if autists are stereotyped to easily fall down shit like neonazi pipelines, so are bippies.
The difference is that the bippie knows how to hide their crap so it comes out in more subtle ways. Like constantly derailing a topic someone struggles with by bringing up their own shit, rather than straight up blurting out tonedeaf stuff like an autistic would with their poor social comprehension. But they still see the world in extremes- you're one of the "good ones" or you're not. Women are all filthy whores or not. Insert race are all evil or not.

No. 3094154

>>3092725
They are really all the same, aren't they? Have..Had this friend, she'd keep saying she wants to do something with me and then kept blowing it off or just not showing up and then meets me a couple days later and never mentions it again like nothing had happened. I let it slide, then one day I got really angry and I told her it makes me feel like shit. She said she has no idea what I'm talking about and I'm crazy. I then wrote her a long heartfelt letter explaining that it's the promises that hurt me because I'm looking forward to doing stuff with her and then when she just never speaks about it again or doesn't show up it's not okay. She called and gave me a long list of reasons why she can't do that, especially mentioning her "illness" and that she is busy with school. None of these reasons would prevent someone from cancelling a promised cinema outing? Anyway, at the end she told me that we should totally do something the next day to make up for it. And guess what? Exactly, she didn't show up again kek Now that I didn't respond to her calls, she sent me a picture of Romy and Michelle without any other comment and then a text that she doesn't like my silence

No. 3094303>>3094317

Autism is a mental disability and it should categorized as such.

No. 3094307

>>3092882
It's probably just an extension of their need to belong to a group/ideology and their childish black and white thought process. If you have no sense of identity and feel wronged all the time, racism and misogny give you easy targets to feel angry at.

No. 3094317>>3094353

>>3094303
Isn't it already recognized as a disability?

No. 3094353

>>3094317
nta People argue otherwise for some retarded reason.

No. 3094499

Autists are so funny, they act like it's their magical superpower but also hate it if le evil normies call it a superpower too to affirm them, and it's Schrodinger's disability when they want to cry stigma and victim complex but also they're not disabled at all, they can't hold jobs because they're misunderstood Einsteins not because they're literal retards kek

No. 3094514>>3094517>>3094586>>3095161>>3095338>>3095400

Is the "autistic sense of justice" even real?
It seems like bullshit to me. Autists act like they have inherently deeper ethics and integrity but like, don't they lack the social understanding which is needed to have those things to begin with?
Autists struggle with change. So if there's a change in their environment then they react way louder than a normal person would. Would you say the autistic scrote living off disability and his parents who very loudly advocates for mandated anime lolis and neonazism is inherently more "ethical"? Autists have extremely strong rigid beliefs, and said beliefs could be anything. Even the sjw ones that form the stereotype don't have logic to them because autism literally struggles with critical thinking.
"I'm autistic and I have a really strong moral compass!" No it's only "strong" because you throw toddler tantrums when something goes wrong rather than get over like it a normal person.

No. 3094517>>3094519

>>3094514
It's real, but only in some autistic women. Autistic males are incapable of having a sense of justice because males are incapable of having a sense of justice.

No. 3094519

>>3094517
Is it though? It's just rigidity.

No. 3094586

>>3094514
It's a strong personal sense of justice, just whatever the autist personally views as unfair. It's rarely logical, especially in autistic moids who, like you said, have meltdowns over the dumbest shit like how loli rape hentai is one of their inalienable rights. People who suggest it means autists are the most ethically minded people out there are retarded and don't understand what the "sense of justice" entails

No. 3095161

>>3094514
No it's completely real but it's also usually so stupid that other people, including other autists, wouldn't be able to see it as an issue. For example, putting a blue collar on a girl pet, or adding sugar before coffee. Autists know what things 'should' be like and while it's totally possible for high functioning autists to learn that everyone does things differently, they still get hung up on the weirdest shit and won't stop ranting about it. Justice means very different things to them than it does for us. They (female autists) do tend to be much kinder and fairer, but it's not necessarily a good thing because they struggle to understand nuance and context. To them a person who puts down a rabid stray dog at the vet is the same as a dog torturer with a camera and a paying audience. They're also more easily influenced because they take things at face value, which makes their sense of justice even more insane and childish. Autistic men definitely have a sense of justice but because they tend to be far more coddled and spoilt than women they might express their disappointment with someone's actions by breaking their furniture over a difference of opinion on Sonic characters. To the terminally spoilt, anyone with a different opinion is bad, and needs to be punished for all of eternity.

No. 3095338

>>3094514
it is real but it's sort of a misnomer. the "sense of justice" is more so an extension of the rigid fixation on rules and those rules may or may not coincide with the rules everyone else lives by. if you think of it more like OCD it'll make more sense to you. autists don't have a natural intuition for social mores and rely on rules and patterns, so if someone breaks a rule they've internalized it's very distressing for them as they don't know how to wrap their heads around it. for example if an autistic has internalized that it's always rude to swear and observes someone swearing casually with their friends, they might intervene and scold the person who swore because they don't understand that within the context of that social interaction, the person who was swearing wasn't actually being rude. also autistic nonas don't take this personally, i'm a sped myself.

No. 3095400>>3095567

>>3094514
>>Autists act like they have inherently deeper ethics and integrity.
I think this has more to do with the intensity of hyperfixation. A lot of autist are really into history, philosophy, and ethics, where they develop into hyperfixations. All that time and energy put into those subjects may convince them of having a deeper insight into their special interests over others.I seen this with autism and academics. But hyperfixation is fleeting.
t. autist

No. 3095521>>3095577>>3095847

Extreme self harmers. This'll ruffle some feathers but it IS attention seeking, and definitely so when it gets to a certain point and is a complete red flag to have in a person in your life.
Obligatory extreme ones btw, idc about the average substance abuser coping with grief or whatever. I mean the ones who have no qualms absolutely burning their faces off or cutting 10 square inches all the way to the bone out of their body just to get a reaction out of you.
>Oh anon look at what YOU did! See how much I suffer? YOU made me do this out of the pain you cause to me! REEEE don't tell me to get help! I'm just gonna do it even more!
I don't care if they're suffering, the ones who get to this point have something severely fucked up with them. If someone mutilates themselves to that level, they do not respect themselves, and it will come out one way or another; they will not respect you or anyone else. They operate on a completely carefree mental state and yes they are ALWAYS attention seeking.

No. 3095540>>3095795

idk man, people like that usually still doo actually need help

No. 3095567>>3095723

>>3095400
>A lot of autist are really into history, philosophy, and ethics, where they develop into hyperfixations
No, most autists develop neurotic obsessions with children's cartoons or stupid video games, neither of which mean anything to anyone who isn't retarded.

No. 3095577>>3095651

>>3095521
Yeah you're on it. Extreme cases are no longer about maladaptively coping with difficult emotions or experiences but are instead desperate for attention whether they are munchies like lady who picked her legs off or just some cluster b midwit.

No. 3095651

>>3095577
i always assumed it was like drugs for the longterm self multilators and they have to keep escalating the damage in order to get the same endorphin rush

No. 3095723>>3095795>>3095819>>3095847

>>3095567
Istg lolcow is full of the most idiotic stereotypes about autistic people.

No. 3095795

>>3095723
You haven't seen sonic autists and fetishfags? Kek
>>3095540
Learn2reply and who said they weren't? They just need to fuck off and actually get help rather than make it everyone's problem

No. 3095819>>3096103

>>3095723
Most anons are only exposed to the Chris-chan style of autist because they're the kinds you see in anime fandom. None of them know a bird catalogue autist because those autists are a dying breed and because they do not spend time in japanese cartoon internet spaces.

No. 3095847>>3096103

>>3095521
Especially the ones who post online and basically brag and turn self harm into a competition. There are pro-SH communities online that basically operate the same as pro-ana where they compete to be the most fucked up cutter and sneer at "fake cutters doing it for attention" (when I was a teen a "fake cutter doing it for attention" was anyone doing superficial self harm on an easy to hide body part and TRVE CVLT CVTTERS where hacking themselves to the bone and going to the ER every weekend which I guess is somehow less attention seeking than being discrete?).
>>3095723
Ironically this thread is full of undiagnosed autists (and/or diagnosed "not like other autists" autists) who have rigid and inflexible thinking wrt autism.

Same as how 90% of BPD BAD posts here are very clearly by martyr-type cluster Bs sorting the world into black-and-white categories of "narcs" and "victims".

No. 3096103

>>3095819
The bird catalogue autist is also a Chris chan autist in secret. They're all one and the same, don't act like there's special categories
>>3095847
I wonder how they get all the money and resources for people to fawn over them with their daily ER visits

No. 3096212>>3096320

When I was underage I had what I presume a bippie into me. The only thing that confuses me is that he never ever split on me, which is a core part of bpd apparently?
He fulfilled ALL other criteria still. Insane impulsivity, skinwalking, zero identity, insane rage, constant suicide baiting. Anon you make me sooo sad, do you want me to dieee? But it came to what he thought of me, he genuinely never split on me like what I've seen with plenty of other survivors. He'd never go scorched earth or suddenly think I was the spawn of satan or anything, he'd be in constant lovebomb mode which was another reason I couldn't report anything because he "technically did nothing". I could have told him to die or gotten ten restraining orders and he would not have gotten angry. He would always delude himself that I was just playing games or that I was secretly into him which makes me doubt bpd.
>why'd you let this happen
I was underage and police wouldn't have done anything obviously

No. 3096320>>3096344

>>3096212
splitting can also be nonviolent. suicide baiting is a form of splitting, notice how one moment he was lovebombing one moment and then he wanted attention the next.

No. 3096344

>>3096320
>suicide baiting is a form of splitting
Eh not really, those are separate criteria aren't they? Violent or no, splitting involves literal good vs bad, them seeing you as an angel and perfect vs suddenly thinking you're evil and should be killed, no? Even when he was suicide baiting he still was the former despite wanting attention. He was just all "anon you're so lovely and cute, you're so good, you're the ultimate judge, should I die lol" rather than "fuck you you evil spawn of satan and lilith you should die tomorrow i'm gonna kms to make you suffer in guilt and hell forever" which is what a lot of other survivors go through from speaking to them.
Bippies only need 5/9 criteria anyway so maybe he just didn't have that

No. 3096351>>3096360

>>3096335
Splitting is a literal split in their emotions, like swinging. It's not about their perception of people but where their emotions swing.
Splitting can also be the self deprecating bippie that tests your nerves by suicide baiting vs them being the perfect chivalrous prince that wouldn't dare lay a dirty finger on his perfect lady. The moment they suicide bait is because they think you're worthless and are attention seeking.

No. 3096360

>>3096351
Okay that makes sense. I suppose the criteria overlap and are just reinterpretations of one another

No. 3096581>>3096654>>3096740>>3096751>>3096772

I don't understand schizophrenics who don't want to take their meds. I've been hospitalized like four times for schizoaffective disorder and each time I had such a horrifying experience under psychosis, and it had such a negative effect on the people around me too. Plus being in the mental hospital for so long was a terrible experience in its own right. I just don't get it. Are they misdiagnosed, or do they just enjoy the feeling of hallucinating bugs crawling on their skin?

No. 3096654>>3096728

>>3096581
No personal experience of any sort but apparently it's because the meds have lots of shitty side effects or something

No. 3096728

>>3096654
I see that but I also think that taking the meds is preferable to having the voices insult/mock/laugh at you 24/7. Honestly I'm so grateful for modern medicine because without it there wouldn't be a successful treatment for the hell I was going through.

No. 3096740>>3096743>>3096774

>>3096581
anti psychotic meds fuck up your hunger level, the thought processing stuff, they completely numb someone emotionally and basically make you a walking zombie, which is okay if you're a moid coming from money that can loiter all day in the house but if you're a woman that has to live alone and run errands outside and doesn't have good reflexes in a predatory world, it's a death sentence. You can cope with the bugs if that means that if there's a man following you on the street you can understand right away that that's danger instead of your brain firing very well late when you're already being molested.

No. 3096743>>3096774>>3096910

>>3096740
NTA but being in psychosis does not make someone less vulnerable to abuse/attacks

No. 3096751>>3096824

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>>3096581
antipsychotics cause brain damage.
https://www.camh.ca/en/camh-news-and-stories/anti-psychotic-medication-linked-to-potentially-adverse-changes-in-brain-structure

there's also evidence that over medicating schizophrenia can lead to a poorer prognosis. i'll take my meds when i go full schizo and they force them down my throat, but i'm not giving myself a chemical lobotomy willingly.

No. 3096772

>>3096581
It must depend on what kind of schizo they are, easy to imagine paranoid schizophrenics thinking medication will hurt them somehow

No. 3096774>>3096910

>>3096743
>>3096740
If anything being under psychosis would make you more vulnerable to being attacked because for all we know the delusions could be telling you that the man following you is literally Jesus Christ trying to save you.

No. 3096824

>>3096751
those are for two meds… there are more meds than a serotonin balancer and an SSRI. Especially for schizophrenia. Why do people do this with studies so often? It's utterly retarded.

No. 3096910>>3096916

>>3096743
>>3096774
Yes but on the other hand, they make you very numb. If you brain feels like a jelly blob floating in a box, good luck trying to escape from danger in a safe way. They fuck up your reflexes. You can also piss yourself because you didn't feel the need to pee in time to reach the toilet. They also make your body shake. They're not safe for women. Anti psychotics are good for extreme episodes, not as a permanent solution and it can happen that a schizo has a good day and then it's not.

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>>3096910
>They fuck up your reflexes. You can also piss yourself because you didn't feel the need to pee in time to reach the toilet. They also make your body shake.
I'm pretty sure these are not scientifically documented side effects of antipsychotics. Antipsychotics can make you fat and lazy sure, but I've never heard of anybody pissing themselves because of their medication. Stop making shit up.

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>Autistic MEN are horrible. Autistic women are wee babs that are not at all horrible to be around
I see this get thrown around a lot. Don't they realize both sexes are fucking obnoxious to be around? Trannies only exist because autists don't understand nuance and theory of mind as a whole.

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>>3096916
>I'm pretty sure these are not scientifically documented side effects of
nta Gonna have to stop you there. While I have no horse in this race, docs are real good at pretending side effects don't happen when they're reported to happen in groups.
See: Brain Zaps kek



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