Wow, what a disaster gem of a project. Shitty concept, broken rules, incompetent lead, not to mention everyone's favorite friend: Ghosting! Seriously, "maps intended for speedrunning" are gonna end up an complete mess because speedrunning is not intended by mappers anyway! Speedrunning explicitly exploits the games bugs & glitches in its maps and game mechanics. Making maps intended for it basically ruins the point since they're intended to be completed fast as possible. Since the "project lead" only has done bad No Monsters runs he wouldn't even be able to make a proper speedrunning map, as proven by his example map. It's like me with my old banter about making a slopghtermap wad despite me hating and denouncing slopghtermaps as nothing more but cheap difficulty arenas. Only make maps for something you're actually good in and understand instead of trying to go with the crowd. "Doom is for everyone!", they said as they trend-chase and disclose "problematic figures" from the rest of the community. Pure ironic control.

This happens EVERY TIME, doesn't it? Why even bother making a project if you're going to abort it like a leftie woman? If you have the time, motivation, and knowledge go ahead but don't shit yourself. This happened with almost every project I've been in (one Doom project, two Wolfenstein 3D projects, two of them still pending). It's always these horrible work ethics, not understanding how to run projects and how to get your ass off the ground in general. No wonder these people cut their dicks off, the only way they would ever be accepted in any form of society. This could easily ruin community efforts which it has been slowly as there have been no repurcussions on being such a failure as pointed out. If society normalizes it everyone accepts it. Same logic applies here. Gotta arrange a community cleansing, unacceptable. Thanks for this new post (despite the horrible AI image as always)!

I have a personal suggestion for the next pile of shit: Commodore Flying Free. It is a Freedoom Aussie project in development limbo thanks to inactive and slow mappers with heavy dosis of troon, lead by a guy with "Bael" in his name which is heavily similar to the demon "Baal" on the Boom engine despite only being allowed to use visual Boom features only. I was banned off of it for a anti-trans and anti-Troonworld rant, hidden away as "toxicity". Karma is a bitch, now isn't it?

Basically but the same community thing happened outside of the community anyway. Hope he rots with Bill soon enough.

Here's another dumbass project with a gimmick. Why it's stupid? Don't know how to explain it, other than, it seems to me that the best maps for speedrunning are usually the ones that are not intended as such. You know what i mean... when the id Software guys were building the original maps, going through fast was definitely on their mind (Par Times are there for a reason), but they didn't intentionally go out of their way to make every section of these maps, easily skippable, cheesable and hackable. There were many exploits and skips found by speedrunners over the years, but those were oversights and things that Romero and co. couldn't predict at the time they were making the games.

Now we have some amateur "speedrunner" here (trust me, it's generous to call him a speedrunner) who tried (and failed) to do this intentionally, and the way i see it, this can only lead to a very butchered Doom experience. Hey, Erik Alm was a speedrunner, right? I bet he intended for his maps to be open for speedrunning, but i also bet he gave priority to the gameplay first, which is why his maps felt natural to me. Now this moron here wants to do this:

- Custom textures are allowed, just don’t go too overboard. I will most likely pick custom sky textures.

- Maps should just be normal, conventional maps, just built or edited with the speedrun route in mind. You could make your level be as smooth as possible for a run, full of cool or difficult skips, or intentionally challenging for a Speed route. I will post critiques/changes I see/make so that it's easier to see examples of what to do/not do.

First red flag about this guy being completely clueless about managing CPs, is instead of adding a texture pack to the project, which would cost him nothing, he opens the door for everyone to bring custom textures, which could result in a complete mess for him, when it's time to compile the set. It just adds more to the possibility of this thing never being completed, considering how the project lead hasn't compiled anything before this point.

The other rule is also contradictory. If you're going to add intentional skips and tricks to break your own map's progression in order to make it speedrun-able, then it's not a conventional map, in my opinion. Also, the biggest question with this rule is, who's going to be making these maps? They're not going to be made by pro speedrunners and Doom Gods, but normal players, and how are they supposed to figure out what is a "cool skip" or "intentionally challenging speed route"? Not to mention that they have to be able to playtest their own maps, and if they are casual players, chances are they'll create something that is way too easy and boring for experienced speedrunners. I guess AlexEightch is not bothered by this fact, because he's a pretty shitty speedrunner himself, and the only demos i could find from him, are in the No Monsters category. That's right, this motherfuker runs through the game without monsters, calls himself a speedrunner and has the audacity to start a speedrunning CP. The delusion is off the scale...

There you go, more stupid shit:


All of these things are not done intentionally in the popular to speedrun classic Doom maps. I especially find the last guideline laughable. Placing weapons and resources, on the speed route, so the players don't have to go out of their way to get them, which is exactly the opposite of what makes a speedrun interesting. I'm talking from a viewer's point, since i'm not a speedrunner myself. Going out of your way, planning routes, optimizing your resource pickups... that's what makes a speedrun interesting and unpredictable to watch. Not in this guy's mind though, he wants everything to be conveniently placed for him, to be taken with ease. Might as well make the whole route a straight line for him, with all weapons, health and ammo directly on top... and no monsters on the way, of course. Because remember, he hates monsters, that's why he wants them out of the picture, or he might end up playtesting the submissions under the No Monster category as well.

I keep asking this divine question. How is it always that the most unqualified motherfuckers the ones to attempt these experimental projects? If ZeroMaster starts a speedrunning CP, i won't question it, but this imbecile?

Am i too harsh to call him an imbecile?

Deadline: There is no deadline yet :b

Nope, i'm on point. But i'm shocked to find out there's an example map in the OP. Fucking finally, someone had the common sense to provide an example! Yes! Well... guess what? It's an abortion! The detailing is good, but the gameplay is absolute trash. It's just straight flat corridors with low level enemies and lost souls that are all skippable. Hey dummy, if i'm able to speedrun your map (which i did), then you failed in your intentions. Unless his intentions were for casuals to speedrun this, but then again, i don't think he mentions this anywhere. I'm also not seeing any skips, tricks and platforming here. To lazy to follow your own guidelines, maybe? Or just not creative enough? Seriously, it's all straight flat corridors, it's retarded.

The main reason i decided to put this shithouse on blast, is because of what he did at the end... which is also the most inexcusable crime done by so many of these nobodies, and sadly something that always goes unquestioned and unpunished on Doomworld... The Project lead silently quit the project the moment someone submitted a map for it. That's right, Yousuf Anik submitted his map and AlexEightch just ghosted him, never played it, never gave him any feedback, he just stopped posting and abandoned the project without saying a word. As of right now, a year later, Yousuf's map submission is the last post in the project thread. In a normal world this behavior should be moderated, but not on Troonworld. I bet this AlexEightch could start a new CP right now, and no one will say a word, because i've seen this shit happen before with JohnnyCruelty and others like him.

well the reason he was involved in Doom in any way was just because he thought having any version of the game would sell well he wasn't involved community wise

I don't know where the last part came from but ok I guess. Tho, I'm on the exact opposite of the 'Heretic sucks' crowd and precisely because of this my proverbial tent is firmly erected on the 'Heretic-driven community is a dumb idea' camp but, nonetheless, 'public perception' rhymes with 'pubic deception' for a reason. I do believe however that the right of being offended is utmostly sacred, and on both ends, either as the 'partaker' or the 'per taker', so I won't judge no 'salt in' nor 'saltin'' the wound.

Personally speaking tho, being called 'retard' never struck me like lightning and 'nigger' is basically my surname but I, some 'drama-addicted' brown-skinned man? Now now that's just rude! While I assure the lack of life-treatening harm taken in your mislabeling -meaning that you can safely scratch that off from your next priest meeting- I wonder: aren't those who live with their foot and prints soaked in the so called 'troonworld' the most apt contenders for drama-queens? I bet that there are folks here who won't recall their own pops' cakeday yet won't flinch an inch to give you a complete essay of some deeply disturbed beta-male's past and present affairs with satanic lust.

Anyways, back to the main issue. I was simply pointing out the evident; that most people do things because they saw others doing things then replicate said things based on blind faith. In your case, reap-quantity over few bad apples but it begs the question - can't the whole lot be rotten? See, take common sayings. They do have their wisdom yet they won't apply to every single scenario. For instance, how feasible 'keep your friends close but your enemies closer' truly is when all you do is making code? Nevermind the hired muscle, the political puppetry, the pecuniary infrastructure that ensures coercion, you don't even have friends to begin with. What you may have at best is some alluring simbolic target for the attribute. One that might as well be predicated in your own reveries and will never ever touch grass - and no, your pet doesn't count.

Also, I take Rekkr, with all its questionable and unquestionable particularities, as the de-facto third entry of the Heretic-Hexen saga. Even if unofficially so as it clearly captured like a masterball the very essence that made those games great and I find hard to believe that whomever liked those won't like such. In any case, Rekkr was enough of a bottled thunderbolt for my lifetime and I see no need to pest Zeus for more.

My map's shaping up to be a long one. Stuck an exit at the current limit of play which is about half-way in and finished a bit over 7 minutes. After some more work I'll put up a test snapshot.

Well, well, well, if my first map on DC gets approved a second one will surely follow and a more detailed one on that. I usually make only 2-3 maps on average for a project which is quite the effort since most only turn in one if at all. Still mad about my second map for impping II! getting rejected, I'll repurpose it someday...

Yep. Was playing the wrong instruments behind closed doors, a shrieking tone. I believe Doom was a pedophile's Heaven since so many kids and teenagers alike hopped on to it like niggers to crack from the CIA. If I go deer hunting I won't look into the duck pond but follow the shit trails.

the Art Data Interactive guy was also a pedophile I think

I just used it because catbox was sorta down. I doubt any file hosting site wouldn't be used for malware in some way but any mp4 or png/jpg file I put is safe

Aaaaa i found out. Rebecca is Bill. Fucking google played riddles for a while.

Lung cancer is due to hmm. What new germany medicine or psychosomatics say... A fear of death or being scared for himself. Okay. What the latter says: fear of room, deep grief, inability to express his will. That's it, a self termination had happened

Jesus Christ, the guy had a bad work ethic as well. Fucks up the deadline, fucked id "accidentally" with their own port, not to mention forced Carmack to finish it. Fuck him aswell at that point. How retarded can one guy really be at that point? Well-deserved firing, a shame Tom Hall was next. This explains why the Mac version of Wolf3D was handled by Interplay's Mac division "MacPlay" and how greedy it turned out. Read up on Laz Rojas' explanation on how the company "WolfAddict" which was selling Wolf Mac addons died: one of the main reasons being the distribution model of MacPlay. I'll link it for your eyes only. Also WolfAddict was being run by someone who molested his own two daughters! Groomentosh to the loss...

Updated map04. Spiced most of the fight up a bit. Nothing too fancy but should be more engaging overall. Didn't do much balancing to health or ammo but seems good to me. Did run into some buggy behavior with the exit sectors but think it's resolved. They were only visual issues but hopefully good now. Will grab a couple screens later today and update the db thread.

EDIT: Did a quick stealth update. Made a switch repeatable to prevent a possible softlock. 

EDIT2: Updated the DB thread.

A long, long time ago, likely in the 90s already. I do have old Doom downloads with some text files containing links to it from 1998-1999.

oh cool the videos finally loaded

Romero marched into the kitchen at id, waving a crudely drawn caricature of Burger Bill, the renowned gamer rumored to keep hamburgers for days in his desk. Tom, Kevin, and Adrian followed, cackling. Romero stapled Bill’s picture to the chair, then grabbed a steak knife from the drawer. It was time for revenge.

Bill had been contracted by id to convert or port Wolfenstein for the Super Nintendo. But with the deadline approaching, he still hadn’t delivered an iota. He finally admitted that there was a problem: he had made the mistake of signing id’s contract while employed by the game publisher Interplay. His contract with Interplay stipulated that any work an employee did was property of the company; the Super Nintendo port, therefore, was now owned by Interplay.

The id guys flipped. “See,” Romero said, “this is just the kind of bullshit you get when you rely on other people.” Tom took out a pencil and sketched a hideous caricature of Bill with burger meat dripping from his greasy mouth. Romero swiped it from his hands and said it was time for Bill to pay the price. In the kitchen, they took turns stabbing the picture, yelling and laughing and egging each other on. They began attacking the chair, knifing it, stomping it, trashing it. Days later, when Bill came to visit, the ruins were still on the floor. He took one look at the knife with his name scrawled on the blade and asked meekly, “Um, what’s this?” Then they fired him. Carmack would do the port himself.



I swear I read an article once that had a story about Romero passing around a photo of Burger Becky and people taking turns stabbing it... or something close to that. Not having any luck finding it though.

api Thanks for the feedback. It's been a while since I had played the other maps. I actually nerfed my northern section because it felt out of place difficulty wise. I may make some tweaks to add a bit more bite to those fights. Overall I'm not too worried about difficulty progressions. Once the project opens up as a more standard one the map order will almost certainly get adjusted but if it feels like the easiest map it probably does need some more teeth.

I tried the wad and I just got past the third loop and this is probably where the horror part starts I noticed that when you open the command line there is a level 01 thats literately called This is not My House 

Oof...that's disgusting. Brainwashing minors into your own sickness is starting to let me believe William used that as an excuse rather than it being the dry truth. I miss when people had shame over certain things, especially down to horrific sexual topics. "Gender-confused teenager" also shows parental neglect which is a great opportunity for pedos and "wokewashers" alike. I don't use Bluesky for obvious reasons so this flew past my radar. Thanks for this!