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OPENrc with xlibre?

Hi,
New to the forum. I am about to join the community but I wonder if Artix is available with Xlibre?
I don't see the option in downloads. Is it just a matter of installing it through terminal?
Thanks  :D
Happy_man

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #1
Due to reported regressions in Xlibre that are not being fixed, new ISO's are built with Xorg again from now on.

Xlibre can be installed from the Artix repos using pacman but in general it's advised to install xorg-server or xorg-server-tearfree.

artist

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #2
Hello,
This morning i went back, from xlibre to xorg (the tearfree package).. and wow !
All the smooth animations and effects i didn't have under xlibre are back.
Also, performance/tearing issues i had under xlibre are gone.
Finally, a few steam games were not launching, or launching but i mmediately crashing. that fixed it too :)
(i use plasma and openrc, btw :D )

@Happy_man : yes, you can of course install xlibre once artix is installed. and go back to xorg if it suits you better.

edit: i believe the officials iso, from april 2026 are still installing xlibre ?

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #3
Hi Dju,

Thx for the feedback and happy to hear xorg-server-tearfree works better for you.

Indeed the stable iso's still need to be updated

artist

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #4
Due to reported regressions in Xlibre that are not being fixed, new ISO's are built with Xorg again from now on.

Xlibre can be installed from the Artix repos using pacman but in general it's advised to install xorg-server or xorg-server-tearfree.

artist
Just curious, what are the regressions you're referring to? Not being fixed would mean either the dev has chosen not to address them, or an inability to resolve.

Trying to stay on top of all the ongoing display manager developments/changes.

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #5
We don't maintain a list, but quite a few have been reported here in this forum in several topics.

Searching in x11libre's github issues for the word 'regression' currently returns 24 actual hits of which 16 are still open:
https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AX11Libre%2Fxserver+regression&type=issues

Besides those there are are some reported for drivers.

Also note that some regressions were patched out by us for the Artix repos and users before these fixes were accepted and released in the xlibre repos.

And, last but not least, two weeks ago Xorg released 5 security patches through xorg-server 21.1.24, described in https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2026-July/003718.html, but the respective Xlibre PR's are still open.

artist

 

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

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Hello, I‘m callmetango, one of the XLibre maintainers. I read your posts here and would like to add some context and questions.

We don't maintain a list, but quite a few have been reported here in this forum in several topics.

I’d like to remind you that, as of today, you’ve been an XLibre Core Team member and, at the same time, the point of contact for Artix Linux. This includes the responsibility to report any bugs in the XLibre bug tracker. Metux reminded you of this on June 14, 2026 https://t.me/x11dev/1/220419. Since then, you’ve reported exactly one bug in the XLibre Xserver bug tracker as of today. https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20author%3Aartist4artixlinux%20created%3A%3E%3D2026-06-14%20created%3A%3C%3D2026-07-23

During this period, you have not reported any bugs in the commonly used drivers xf86-input-libinput, xf86-video-amdgpu, and xf86-video-intel.

I kindly ask you to report any bugs regarding XLibre at the places you very well know.

Searching in x11libre's github issues for the word 'regression' currently returns 24 actual hits of which 16 are still open:
https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AX11Libre%2Fxserver+regression&type=issues

I looked through the list you provided. The issues in the list can be categorized as follows:

## Affecting the Xserver master branch or 25.2 beta only:

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/1588
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/1816
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/3320
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/3325

## Need info

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/614

## Feature request

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/1091

## Not planned

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/553

## Fixed

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/158
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/180
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/347
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/461
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/713
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/1246
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/1809
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/1812
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2137
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2152
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2350
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2458
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/3079

## Inherited from Xorg

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2090

## Solvable by workaround

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2643

## Open

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/2203
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/3074
https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/3280


Out of the 16 open regressions from your list, about 6 affect Artix Linux.

Speaking of bugs and numbers:

> in general it's advised to install xorg-server or xorg-server-tearfree

I went to the Xorg Server bug tracker https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/work_items. It contains 1031 open items. A search for the word „bug“ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/work_items?state=opened&type%5B%5D=1&search=bug returns 647 open bugs. That‘s what you recommend to your users.

Also note that some regressions were patched out by us for the Artix repos and users before these fixes were accepted and released in the xlibre repos.

You created 7 pull requests against the Xserver. https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aartist4artixlinux

6 of them were closed because 1 was an Artix build server problem, 1 was superseeded, 3 were duplicates, and one was closed by you for an unknown reason.

1 has been merged. You did 1 pull request in xf86-video-intel which got merged as well. None in xf86-input-libinput, xf86-input-synaptics, xf86-video-ati, and xf86-video-amdgpu. In total we‘re talking about 2 pull requests.

And, last but not least, two weeks ago Xorg released 5 security patches through xorg-server 21.1.24, described in https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2026-July/003718.html, but the respective Xlibre PR's are still open.

The X.Org Security Advisory https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2026-July/003716.html contains exactly 2 (two) patches, one for CVE-2026-55999 and one for CVE-2026-56000.

We merged both patches into the XLibre Xserver 25.2.1 beta and released it on July 14. For the stable release series 25.0 and 25.1, we have stricter review rules and will release the fixes when the reviewers agree.

The X.Org Security Advisory https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2026-July/003714.html containing 3 patches is about libXfont2. This library is not part of the XLibre project.


I generally welcome you being sensitive to CVE fixes. We are too. On June 6, we released the XLibre Xserver 25.0.0.24 https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/releases#release-xlibre-xserver-25.0.0.24. It contains fixes for CVE-2026-50256, CVE-2026-50257, CVE-2026-50258, CVE-2026-50259, CVE-2026-50260, CVE-2026-50261, CVE-2026-50262, and CVE-2026-50263. 7 (seven) in total.

You added the PKGBUILD to Artix about 5 hours ago in https://gitea.artixlinux.org/packages/xlibre-xserver/commit/ba59e09ca179f4f94cb7f0d655619cc38332571d after you have been critized and removed from the XLibre Core Team for several reasons, including failing to provide packages for security fixes.

The systems of the Artix users, however, were vulnerable to these 7 CVEs for more than 6 (six) weeks.


Given all that, I doubt that we‘re still speaking about anything related to software development anymore. So my question is: What's your motivation?

Has this anything to do with you leaving SonicDE on short notice in April 2026 https://t.me/sonic_de/1/29621 ?

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #7
I've been keeping an eye on the state of XLibres development and I will say that this is one of the most important efforts in the free and open-source software, especially for future desktop adoption. XLibres development happens to spring forth during a chaotic period where chasing the dragon of new technologies is often at the expense of the end user. Transparency is everything for a projects key management.

Given what's happening here and at the Debian/Ubuntu front, there needs to be a reinforcement of communication between parties regarding the state of packaging and distribution-specific management routes, especially if someone disappears or resigns sooner than expected. I wholly understand that there are major responsibilities in tow with continuing development and refinement of the Xorg, which is why a meeting should be arranged to plan a course correction and strengthen the base.

I'm a sincere voice of concern without the intent of disrupting any conflict resolution between you two, and I am not in any stretch of the imagination a qualified developer/programmer. I just want a stable foundation for a stable software.

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #8
To all xlibre tango persons: this forum is not the place to make things personal; pls refrain from that.

artist

Re: OPENrc with xlibre?

Reply #9
Our stable ISOs are XLibre. We package XLibre. I use XLibre.

Stop this buffoonery, everyone.

 
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