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Hi!
I want to order today as I just got my es920.
Is the Kawai HM-5 wobbly? does it need the pedals to be solid?
Thanks!
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I put my new ES920 on a Roland KS-10Z stand: https://www.roland.com/au/products/ks-10z/It’s rock solid, and only cost about USD $100 + tax (almost half the price of the HM-5). I bought some vinyl stickers so I can stick ‘Kawai’ over the top of ‘Roland’!
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Hi!
I want to order today as I just got my es920.
Is the Kawai HM-5 wobbly? does it need the pedals to be solid?
Thanks! I'm not sure why you're asking that, as I've never heard any reports of it being so. The thing is: you're choice is whether you have the triple pedal fixed to the stand, or whether you have the GFP-3 triple pedal, which is free-standing and can move. If you're not playing live or moving your piano a lot, it makes sense to opt for the wooden stand with integrated triple pedal.. Having played the ES8 on an HM-4 stand, I can tell you that this stand is rock solid. I'm guessing that the HM-5 is pretty similar.
Instruments......Kawai MP7SE.............................................(Past - Kawai MP7, Yamaha PSR7000)
Software..........Sibelius 7; Neuratron Photoscore Pro 8
Stand...............K&M 18953 Table-style Stage Piano Stand
Piano stool.......K&M 14093 Piano stool
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Hi!
I want to order today as I just got my es920.
Is the Kawai HM-5 wobbly? does it need the pedals to be solid?
Thanks! I'm not sure why you're asking that, as I've never heard any reports of it being so. The thing is: you're choice is whether you have the triple pedal fixed to the stand, or whether you have the GFP-3 triple pedal, which is free-standing and can move. If you're not playing live or moving your piano a lot, it makes sense to opt for the wooden stand with integrated triple pedal.. Having played the ES8 on an HM-4 stand, I can tell you that this stand is rock solid. I'm guessing that the HM-5 is pretty similar. 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I put my new ES920 on a Roland KS-10Z stand: https://www.roland.com/au/products/ks-10z/It’s rock solid, and only cost about USD $100 + tax (almost half the price of the HM-5). I bought some vinyl stickers so I can stick ‘Kawai’ over the top of ‘Roland’! Thanks, I just love the look of the matching stand though.
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in another thread, a user mentioned that because that stand Bolts (mates) well with the chassis, it reduces the chassis buzz. kawaboi thinks that in itself makes it a worthy contender. kawaboi did not buy the kawai stand for himself , because he is using external sound to bypass the onboard speakers (chassis buzz, high onboard distortion), and he prefers the piano much closer to the ground, because kawaboi is lazy as ff and likes to slouch. 
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I put my new ES920 on a Roland KS-10Z stand: https://www.roland.com/au/products/ks-10z/It’s rock solid, and only cost about USD $100 + tax (almost half the price of the HM-5). I bought some vinyl stickers so I can stick ‘Kawai’ over the top of ‘Roland’! Thanks, I just love the look of the matching stand though. That looks a bugger to pack away.
Instruments......Kawai MP7SE.............................................(Past - Kawai MP7, Yamaha PSR7000)
Software..........Sibelius 7; Neuratron Photoscore Pro 8
Stand...............K&M 18953 Table-style Stage Piano Stand
Piano stool.......K&M 14093 Piano stool
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in another thread, a user mentioned that because that stand Bolts (mates) well with the chassis, it reduces the chassis buzz. kawaboi thinks that in itself makes it a worthy contender. kawaboi did not buy the kawai stand for himself , because he is using external sound to bypass the onboard speakers (chassis buzz, high onboard distortion), and he prefers the piano much closer to the ground, because kawaboi is lazy as ff and likes to slouch. Thanks! I ordered the HM5 to give it a shot
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I put my new ES920 on a Roland KS-10Z stand: https://www.roland.com/au/products/ks-10z/It’s rock solid, and only cost about USD $100 + tax (almost half the price of the HM-5). I bought some vinyl stickers so I can stick ‘Kawai’ over the top of ‘Roland’! Thanks, I just love the look of the matching stand though. That looks a bugger to pack away. That Z-stand has buttons that flip the feet and arms over so they fold parallel against the body of the rest of the main frame. So that process only adds about 10-15 seconds to the time it would take to fold an X-stand, plus it slides in together shorter than an X-stand so it’s easier to transport or store.
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