Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer
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About
Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer refers to a meme format that negatively compares fans of a certain thing to fans of another thing, usually ironically, referring to the latter as "enjoyers" or "appreciators." The format is based on photographs of two people who fall within the archetypes of Soyboy and a Chad and bears resemblances to Virgin vs. Chad and Yes Chad meme formats.
In February 2021, the format gained association with the song "Can You Feel My Heart" by Bring Me the Horizon.
Origin
The format utilizes two photographs: a still image from a video by YouTuber James' YouNiverse (shown below, left) and a viral photograph of Iranian influencer Saman Ghasemzadeh, a member of the informal "Rich Kids of Tehran" clique, who had supposedly undergone plastic surgery to attain chiseled facial features (also known as Zara Boss; shown below, right). Both photographs saw use as reaction images online,[1][2][3] being associated with the Soyboy and Chad archetypes, respectively.
On September 30th, 2019, Twitter[4] user @ocenotvevo posted the first meme that combined the images, captioning them "Average space travel enthusiast" and "average flat earther." The post received over 120 retweets and 600 likes in one year.
Spread
On October 18th, 2019, an unknown Redditor[9] posted the earliest found derivative of the format, a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure meme, to /r/Animemes (shown below, left).
The format did not see further spread until on November 2nd, 2019, iFunny[5] user breastwart posted the first viral derivative version of the format, changing Chad's caption to "average ocean appreciator." The meme (shown below, right) gained over 2,000 smiles in nine months and received viral spread online with multiple reposts on iFunny,[6][7] Facebook, Tumblr[8] and Twitter in the following months.
Prior to June 2020, the format saw limited spread online, with several viral examples being posted on Facebook[10][11] during that period. On June 9th, Twitter[12] user @snackoon posted a version of the meme captioned "weed smokers" and "bread and oil enjoyers" (shown below). The Post received over 270 retweets and 700 likes and was widely circulated online in the following weeks.
Prior to July 10th, an unknown user posted a version of the meme that humorously compared "apple eaters" and "pear enjoyers" (shown below).[15] The meme received viral spread with multiple reposts on Facebook,[12] Twitter,[13] Reddit[14] and other platforms in the following days.
Following the viral spread of the meme, the format gained viral spread online, with multiple notable examples being posted on all major online platforms starting in late July 2020.
Can You Feel My Heart Edits
"Can You Feel My Heart" is a 2013 song by British metalcore band Bring Me the Horizon. In January 2021, the song gained popularity on TikTok as a sound effect in videos and was later used in Average Fan vs. Average Enjoyer memes.
On January 25th, 2021, TikTok[22] user @urticatesatr (Gibberish.bruh) posted the earliest meme based on the format, a Godzilla vs. Kong meme (reupload shown below), with the post gaining over 323,000 views and 62,900 likes in two months. On January 26th, iFunny[16] user TheBertiestBertoftheBerts made the earliest found repost of the video. Also on that day, Twitter[17] account @TheFunny_mp4 reposted the video, with the meme gaining over 467,000 views, 8,200 retweets and 46,900 likes.
On February 7th, 2021, content creator Socialism Done Left made a version of the meme that gained over 190,000 views on YouTube[18] and 134,000 views on Twitter[19] in one month (shown below). The video features sped-up video "itzmefraz episode 7" by YouTube[23] user itz me Fraz as "fan" and a slideshow of GigaChad images as "enjoyer." Also on the same day, Socialism Done Left uploaded a template for the meme to Twitter[20] and Google Drive.[21]
Itz Me Fraz' Video
The clip used as "fan" is a sped-up version of December 2018 video "itsmefraz episode 7" by YouTuber[23] and Instagram[24] user itz me fraz. In the video, itz me fraz complains about his videos being deleted from Instagram and jokes that he will be changing the style of his videos. He then proceeds to showcase how his videos will be styled from now on, cursing at the camera (video shown below). The video did not see popularity until it's use in the meme format, and gained over 130,000 views on YouTube as of July 15th, 2021 (Instagram post no longer available).
Various Examples
Templates
Search Interest
External References
[1] DesuArchive – /int/ Thread #96513437
[2] Twitter – @OliviaSmyerr
[3] Twitter- @ThatFWDLotus
[4] Twitter – @ocenotvevo
[5] iFunny – breastwart
[6] iFunny – breastwart
[7] iFunny – Randommotherfucker
[8] Tumblr – Nazi Punks Fuck Off
[9] Reddit – IN THIS MOMENT I AM EUPHORIC NOT BECAUSE OF ANY VACUUM BUT BECAUSE I AM ENLIGHTENED BY THE MAJESTY OF THE SEA
[10] Facebook – Gang weed Pakistan
[11] Facebook – Ｉｎｎｅｒ Ｃｉｒｃｌｅ 名誉義
[13] Facebook – Memes that will be hard for historians to understand
[14] Twitter – @think_not_think
[15] Reddit – apple eaters pear enjoyers
[16] iFunny – TheBertiestBertoftheBerts
[17] Twitter – @TheFunny_mp4
[18] YouTube – Average Evidence Fan
[19] Twitter – @SocDoneLeft
[20] Twitter – @SocDoneLeft
[22] TikTok – @urticatesatr
[23] YouTube – itzmefraz episode 7
[24] Instagram – frazandmolegrip
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People here took the appearances too seriously early on in this meme's life, but I think it's evolved into something funnier than "thing I don't like vs thing I like". The subjects are more absurd/less serious and there's been post-ironic instances of the base meme itself being modified or even re-animated/replicated with external assets (e.g. average enjoyer fan vs average fan enjoyer). Plus, it helps that I like Bring Me the Horizon and the accompanying song.
People here took the appearances too seriously early on in this meme's life, but I think it's evolved into something funnier than "thing I don't like vs thing I like". The subjects are more absurd/less serious and there's been post-ironic instances of the base meme itself being modified or even re-animated/replicated with external assets (e.g. average enjoyer fan vs average fan enjoyer). Plus, it helps that I like Bring Me the Horizon and the accompanying song.
I swear, everytime I come back to KYM all I see is people prematurely whining about every single meme, justified or not.
I swear, everytime I come back to KYM all I see is people prematurely whining about every single meme, justified or not.
Wouldn't this be a better template? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrkNwjruz5k
has double the frames.
Wouldn't this be a better template? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrkNwjruz5k
has double the frames.
Who's the kid on the left?
Who's the kid on the left?
YouTuber itz me Fraz. it's mentioned in the article.
YouTuber itz me Fraz. it's mentioned in the article.
The "Zara Boss" guy to the right is an incredibly photograph. I don't think I've ever seen someone who is at once so masculine and so feminine. The perfect specimen…
The "Zara Boss" guy to the right is an incredibly photograph. I don't think I've ever seen someone who is at once so masculine and so feminine. The perfect specimen…
Androgyny is the endgame of Humans
Androgyny is the endgame of Humans
here's the thing about this meme though;
i don't see this meme as another "thing i like vs thing i don't like" meme because if you change the subject to be similar (like the fandom), the point still get across;
the left soyjack is an exaggerated portrayal of a fan who deliberately put themselves into an obsessive attraction towards the subject matter, shown to be unkempt, overtly excited, and very detached to the societal interactions because they think highly of themselves, as the fan being surrounded and cluttered by the subject matter. meanwhile, the enjoyer shown to be lean and clean in an exaggerated manner, but clearly shows that the enjoyer doesn't need anything else to be inserted in the picture because the enjoyer likes it and they enjoyed it without going further into the rabbit hole. changing the enjoyer image with gigachad would still work because the gigachad shows a calm composure that still defines him as someone who enjoy things.
here's the thing about this meme though;
i don't see this meme as another "thing i like vs thing i don't like" meme because if you change the subject to be similar (like the fandom), the point still get across;
the left soyjack is an exaggerated portrayal of a fan who deliberately put themselves into an obsessive attraction towards the subject matter, shown to be unkempt, overtly excited, and very detached to the societal interactions because they think highly of themselves, as the fan being surrounded and cluttered by the subject matter. meanwhile, the enjoyer shown to be lean and clean in an exaggerated manner, but clearly shows that the enjoyer doesn't need anything else to be inserted in the picture because the enjoyer likes it and they enjoyed it without going further into the rabbit hole. changing the enjoyer image with gigachad would still work because the gigachad shows a calm composure that still defines him as someone who enjoy things.
a big fan of something doesn't always enjoy or like what the subculture has provided in the recent times (like the Sequel Trilogy), often sighs in disappointment, yet still cling into that sliver of hope that maybe the thing they big fan of finally bring something good and enjoyable to the table. the enjoyer of a subject matter liked it and enjoyed it as it's due. you could say it's sounds like a lowest common denominator comment, but if they don't like it nor enjoy it, why bother getting to see it? James Rolfe shows that he can be a fan and an enjoyer at the same time, showing that despite he enjoy things he watch most of the time, he still has the capability to tell what he doesn't like and bring up the necessary criticism with cold, clean vision, as he had the guts to not going to watch the Ghostbusters 2016 because he doesn't like nor enjoy the trailer and moves on afterward.
a big fan of something doesn't always enjoy or like what the subculture has provided in the recent times (like the Sequel Trilogy), often sighs in disappointment, yet still cling into that sliver of hope that maybe the thing they big fan of finally bring something good and enjoyable to the table. the enjoyer of a subject matter liked it and enjoyed it as it's due. you could say it's sounds like a lowest common denominator comment, but if they don't like it nor enjoy it, why bother getting to see it? James Rolfe shows that he can be a fan and an enjoyer at the same time, showing that despite he enjoy things he watch most of the time, he still has the capability to tell what he doesn't like and bring up the necessary criticism with cold, clean vision, as he had the guts to not going to watch the Ghostbusters 2016 because he doesn't like nor enjoy the trailer and moves on afterward.
This thing is supposed to ridicule the "fan" and glorify the "enjoyer" because he's supposedly more attractive but, fuck, the fan is definitely the more attractive one. Not actually attractive per se, but at least the fan looks like a real person, instead of the mockery of a human face that excessive plastic surgery has turned the enjoyer into.
This thing is supposed to ridicule the "fan" and glorify the "enjoyer" because he's supposedly more attractive but, fuck, the fan is definitely the more attractive one. Not actually attractive per se, but at least the fan looks like a real person, instead of the mockery of a human face that excessive plastic surgery has turned the enjoyer into.
Ah yes, the fresh new "Bad Thing vs Good Thing" meme. For all of humanity's advancements, some things never change.
Ah yes, the fresh new "Bad Thing vs Good Thing" meme. For all of humanity's advancements, some things never change.
Like the Virgin vs. Chad meme (which this basically just seems like a rehash of tbh), it's funny when its ironic/not really serious, but then some people take it seriously and ruin it.
Like the Virgin vs. Chad meme (which this basically just seems like a rehash of tbh), it's funny when its ironic/not really serious, but then some people take it seriously and ruin it.
This one at least seems to have some creativity put into it.
This one at least seems to have some creativity put into it.
Eh, I've found at least one good one.
Eh, I've found at least one good one.
I'm sorry but that face on the left will never NOT make me laugh whenever I see it in the wild. So hilarious haha
I'm sorry but that face on the left will never NOT make me laugh whenever I see it in the wild. So hilarious haha
I genuinely get into a laughing fit every time I see it as well, like it's so ridiculous, why would anyone make that face?
I genuinely get into a laughing fit every time I see it as well, like it's so ridiculous, why would anyone make that face?
Same energy here
Same energy here
One thing I like about this is that even the "good" side is depicted in a ridiculous manner.
One thing I like about this is that even the "good" side is depicted in a ridiculous manner.
Chad would like a word with you.
Chad would like a word with you.
Urgh. Who'd ever want to be like that thing on the right?
Urgh. Who'd ever want to be like that thing on the right?
insecure men
insecure men
I have uploaded a version of the template that's accurate to what is common in September meme lore, since it's impossible to find one without having to recreate it yourself. Someone should add it to this page
I have uploaded a version of the template that's accurate to what is common in September meme lore, since it's impossible to find one without having to recreate it yourself. Someone should add it to this page
What's even worse than a toxic fanbase? Gatekeeping disguised as a low-effort meme. Goodness, I've seen plenty of gatekeeping during my travels in the wide world of music, but this is one of the most pathetic yet demeaning at the same time.
What's even worse than a toxic fanbase? Gatekeeping disguised as a low-effort meme. Goodness, I've seen plenty of gatekeeping during my travels in the wide world of music, but this is one of the most pathetic yet demeaning at the same time.
me look good,
you look bad
give updoots
me look good,
you look bad
give updoots
What I love about these is that it's another me good you bad meme but with emphasis on the fact that it's just the same thing with different wording in most cases. We have finally broken internet humor down to its essential core.
What I love about these is that it's another me good you bad meme but with emphasis on the fact that it's just the same thing with different wording in most cases. We have finally broken internet humor down to its essential core.
It's literally just a rehash of the Average Peasant vs Glorious Master Race meme.
It's literally just a rehash of the Average Peasant vs Glorious Master Race meme.
This is like one of these weird rip off products you find in Dollar Stores
This is like one of these weird rip off products you find in Dollar Stores
I'm personally a rat poison enjoyer.
I'm personally a rat poison enjoyer.
What's so funny about modern memes? They're all about "ME TASTE GOOD YOUR TASTE BAD" now. I'm sick of this shit.
What's so funny about modern memes? They're all about "ME TASTE GOOD YOUR TASTE BAD" now. I'm sick of this shit.
That's not entirely true. Many of them are object labelling.
That's not entirely true. Many of them are object labelling.
Most of them are ironic
Most of them are ironic
It can be used ironically in intentionally absurd ways (ex. apple eaters vs pear enjoyers).
It can be used ironically in intentionally absurd ways (ex. apple eaters vs pear enjoyers).
this one feels different to me somehow. it has such a chaotic energy to it I don't think anyone's going to take it seriously as a "this thing good this thing bad" type of meme
this one feels different to me somehow. it has such a chaotic energy to it I don't think anyone's going to take it seriously as a "this thing good this thing bad" type of meme
idk several other memes started as ironic but devolved into being the exact same thing in the end.
It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't get like one every single month.
idk several other memes started as ironic but devolved into being the exact same thing in the end.
It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't get like one every single month.
At least this has a kind of ironic absurd energy, as opposite of previous "soyjak bad nordic good" template. Still kinda sad we're recycling the same meme over and over though.
At least this has a kind of ironic absurd energy, as opposite of previous "soyjak bad nordic good" template. Still kinda sad we're recycling the same meme over and over though.
Does anyone know in what video James' YouNiverse makes that face?
Does anyone know in what video James' YouNiverse makes that face?
i'm so fucking tired of all these jaks
i'm so fucking tired of all these jaks
Cool meme.
Cool meme.
The guy on the left looks like a nerd, but the guy on the right looks like he's had so much work done that he barely looks human anymore. Don't do plastic surgery, kids
The guy on the left looks like a nerd, but the guy on the right looks like he's had so much work done that he barely looks human anymore. Don't do plastic surgery, kids
why?
why?
Why not?
Why not?
This thing is nothing but a clusterfuck of mediocre-to-rancid memes. Is like Legion from Castlevania in meme form.
This thing is nothing but a clusterfuck of mediocre-to-rancid memes. Is like Legion from Castlevania in meme form.
If the point is to compare invested fans to casual enjoyers, then why are they using different subjects for each?
That makes it a non-comparison because we aren't given any characterization for the occasional enjoyers of the thing associated with the ugly guy nor for the hardcore fans of the thing associated with the handsome guy.
You can compare active fans of Thing A to both simple enjoyers of Thing A and to active fans of Thing B, but you can't compare active fans of Thing A to simple enjoyers of Thing B and get any sort of meaningful contrast out of it.
If the point is to compare invested fans to casual enjoyers, then why are they using different subjects for each?
That makes it a non-comparison because we aren't given any characterization for the occasional enjoyers of the thing associated with the ugly guy nor for the hardcore fans of the thing associated with the handsome guy.
You can compare active fans of Thing A to both simple enjoyers of Thing A and to active fans of Thing B, but you can't compare active fans of Thing A to simple enjoyers of Thing B and get any sort of meaningful contrast out of it.
This meme is dumb but the one on the left reminds me of this
This meme is dumb but the one on the left reminds me of this
that's totally me when my mom walks in my room while i watch sherlock gnomes and i'm at the part where the guy shakes his butt
that's totally me when my mom walks in my room while i watch sherlock gnomes and i'm at the part where the guy shakes his butt
Pictured – Me, an anaconda foolishly preparing to consume an impossibly large and organ rupturing deer
Pictured – Me, an anaconda foolishly preparing to consume an impossibly large and organ rupturing deer
this will be
wojaks in 2020
this will be
wojaks in 2020
It really didn't take long to devolve into "Good thing vs Bad thing"
It really didn't take long to devolve into "Good thing vs Bad thing"
The Netflix adaptation of memes.
The Netflix adaptation of memes.
For hecks sake
Not only this is just another good v bad meme, its littearly just realife depictions of 2 wojak faces that were already used for good v bad memes
Were not even doing the same meme type anymore, were doing the same meme itself now, I actual am tired of this
For hecks sake
Not only this is just another good v bad meme, its littearly just realife depictions of 2 wojak faces that were already used for good v bad memes
Were not even doing the same meme type anymore, were doing the same meme itself now, I actual am tired of this
This is just fucking live-action wojaks, somehow managing to NOT be an improvement.
This is just fucking live-action wojaks, somehow managing to NOT be an improvement.
Oh, great, another shitty live-action reboot that nobody asked for.
Oh, great, another shitty live-action reboot that nobody asked for.
Brilliant, another fucking ThInG yOu LiKe BaD, tHiNg Me LiKe GoOd “meme”.
And don’t get me started on the assholes who go “You hate it because it’s you!”
Brilliant, another fucking ThInG yOu LiKe BaD, tHiNg Me LiKe GoOd “meme”.
And don’t get me started on the assholes who go “You hate it because it’s you!”
If I was either of them, I'd rather be the "fan", the other one is a plastic monstrosity.
If I was either of them, I'd rather be the "fan", the other one is a plastic monstrosity.
hoes mad, hoes mad
hoes mad, hoes mad
At least this one seems to be used mostly ironically so far. But well, all the others started that way too…
At least this one seems to be used mostly ironically so far. But well, all the others started that way too…
everybody be like "lol its u haha yum ur tears so tasy"
im just sitting here like
everybody be like "lol its u haha yum ur tears so tasy"
im just sitting here like
It's literally soyjack vs nordic chad, but now it's real life counterparts. Different image, same shit meme.
It's literally soyjack vs nordic chad, but now it's real life counterparts. Different image, same shit meme.
…It's clearly a parody of soyjak vs chad….
…It's clearly a parody of soyjak vs chad….
it's just another iteration of
"me look good, you look bad" kind of memes, it's some shallow shite
it's just another iteration of
"me look good, you look bad" kind of memes, it's some shallow shite
I mean this is no different than that:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/soyjaks-vs-chads
I mean this is no different than that:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/soyjaks-vs-chads
Memes don't die, they evolve with the times but they're still the same
Memes don't die, they evolve with the times but they're still the same
Does it really count as evolution if it’s going backwards?
Does it really count as evolution if it’s going backwards?
Evolution doesn't care about forwards or backwards. Evolution is gradual change over time in a "species" or in this case, an internet meme.
Evolution doesn't care about forwards or backwards. Evolution is gradual change over time in a "species" or in this case, an internet meme.
And get worse and less creative.
And get worse and less creative.
me on the left
me on the left