Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

"Woke" is in everything as it simply is about tolerance.

Also funny how popular "woke" games turned "not woke" cause anti-wokes enjoyed the games.

My biggest issue with the woke agenda in video games is their attack on all things fanservice.

BG3 has attractive ladies, and it even features them in sex scenes. The game even had a "time until sex" speed run category.

But as always, you always ignore this point.

There is nothing wrong with any of it, not sure what I'm "ignoring".

Originally posted by hazydistance:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

"Woke" is in everything as it simply is about tolerance.

Incorrect. "Woke" is about being "awakened" from a "false consciousness" into the supposedly "real" worldview, consisting of a simple scheme of collective power relations. There's no tolerance in that.

Nah, that's what activists and anti-wokes make of it.

Woke is about tolerance, that's what the core comes down to. The anti-woke are intolerant people, hence why they cry foul anytime something is in a game that threatens or even shatters their very limited world views.

That tolerance, that is considered "woke", in my opinion is merely common sense, mind. I don't get all this fuss about characters race, gender, sexual orientation or such, to be honest. They're just games, you know.
Then again, I don't think the world revolves around me. Something I don't have in common with "anti-wokes", lol.

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by GuerillaTactix:

I will say however, I am bored with the AAA over correction where almost every notable game features a woman or a woman of colour or a gay woman of colour. We had a push for diversity in gaming and now in 2026 I'm sitting here wishing we had diverisity in our AAA games.

Then just move to the niche of your choice.
The gaming field is large. There's some dev out there catering to your specific tastes.

My thing has always been big budget AAA games and Japanese Role Playing games. Now I'm being told that because others changed my niche its time to find a new niche. And what happens when the gaming industry decides that the AAA isnt enough, in the quest for diversity we're going to make everything gay, everything female, everything person of colour, everything a gay person of colour? Why is it that we have a push for diversity and inclusion, but this push for diversity and inclusion has lead to uniformity and the push for inclusion has lead to others being told to find something else aka being excluded?

All I'm saying is that I want diversity in the type of games I enjoy. When a bunch of people with nose rings, rainbow flags and vaginas were saying it in the mid 2000s everyone stood up and cheered. When people say it in 2026, now its suddenly a bad thing?

I’ll agree that video games aren’t reality and that video game characters aren’t real people.

I think people who do believe that have issues. The kind of issues that make you shoot up a grocery store so you can be married to your Nickelodeon cartoon crush in the afterlife.

I think some people who say that haven’t fully internalized it and so you will see the contradiction in other things they take grievance with. Edit: or it’s just rhetoric instead of an actual belief.

I also think some people *do* believe it but know they’d seem crazy so they never explicitly say they do, but it can be implied by how they traverse online conversation about the fictional.

Originally posted by GuerillaTactix:

My thing has always been big budget AAA games and Japanese Role Playing games. Now I'm being told that because others changed my niche its time to find a new niche.

AAAs used to make RTS games. AAAs used to include bots for single player gaming.

The industry has changed many times over the years. Sometimes the change doesn't hit you sometimes it does.

Good thing about gaming is you can find your specific itch elsewhere.

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

The industry has changed many times over the years. Sometimes the change doesn't hit you sometimes it does.

What do you think about the whole situation with this?

https://www.thegamer.com/jeffrey-epstein-call-of-duty-microtransactions/

space invaders

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by GuerillaTactix:

My thing has always been big budget AAA games and Japanese Role Playing games. Now I'm being told that because others changed my niche its time to find a new niche.

AAAs used to make RTS games. AAAs used to include bots for single player gaming.

The industry has changed many times over the years. Sometimes the change doesn't hit you sometimes it does.

Good thing about gaming is you can find your specific itch elsewhere.

That's the issue though. While I don't disagree with you, this was never a consideration when there were complaints about minorities not being represented in games. It was just a given that games needed to be more gay, less white, less masculine. It was never " Go find you own niche in the industry." Outside of the fringes its wasn't really, " Go make your own game". The whole industry just accepted that what the minority wants it gets and now that others feel alienated they are called ists, phobes and biggots. I am not personally saying all that stuff can not exist in gaming, I am simply saying that in an attempt to correct a percieved problem the pendulum has gone too far in the opposite direction and now needs to move over some. However, we're told there is no problem, its all in our heads, we just don't like gays and blacks and women. I say this as a bi-race black guy, its gone too far in the other direction lol. Houston, there is a problem that needs corrected.

Final Fantasy games are much better than woke slop BG3....

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:

Final Fantasy games are much better than woke slop BG3....

The older ones maybe, but the FF7 Remakes, are in fact Goy slop..

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:

Final Fantasy games are much better than woke slop BG3....

Nobody tell him that the French translation of FF8 describes Sorceress Adel as intersexed. Or that Faris Scherwiz from FF5 bounces between gender pronouns.

Or the cross dressing (drag) found in FF7. Or the bathing scene in FF7 that was...very homoerotic.

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:

Final Fantasy games are much better than woke slop BG3....

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I expected a rebuttal from you. I thought you were blocked?

Anyways, all sources shows that is false. lgbt supporters assume that the character is intersex, while it has nothing to do with lgbt at all. Sounds like a confirmation bias from you.

IIRC, the publisher acknowledged that one and put that to rest.

Originally posted by Soren:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Fake news.

The censorship ♥♥♥♥ was happening long before the activists prompted Visa and MC into action. Consultation groups like Sweet Baby Inc. were threatening publishers to censor their games long before that.

That story you are citing was made up.

It's not made up, and I am not citing any story. It is the words straight out of Sweet Baby Inc's own CEO's mouth.

Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:

Final Fantasy games are much better than woke slop BG3....

The older ones maybe, but the FF7 Remakes, are in fact Goy slop..

Agreed, I owned the original version.

Originally posted by ShadowStrike:

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

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I expected a rebuttal from you. I thought you were blocked?

Then why click to show? And I never said anything about people assuming the character is intersexed, I said the French translation of the game says so. The French translation literally calls her a hermaphrodite and the characters use both he and she when talking about her. Lol