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When did the "activist" game developer mindset start?
Most strange phenomena can be pinned down to a single date or title, such as the first game to feature a turrent section, or the first game to feature quick-time events (I'm glad those two features are gone). So, what was the first game where the developers had a "activist" mindset, where they didn't care about their customers at all and actively fought against them brazenly. When did this terrible, narcissistic mindset start, and what's the first game to be plagued by it?

I can pinpoint such a mindset with movies, with Ghostbusters 2016. That was the first movie I saw where the director, the actors, and even the studio funding it actively went against the customers and fought against them so openly. It was pretty weird, which made it satisfying when the movie flopped and it sequel was cancelled.

But what about games? What was the first game to be plagued with the "activist" mindset that ruined it?
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Originally posted by Start_Running:
Well then you need to do your part and get more men into the related fields m8.
Though its nice of you to admit what your problem actually is.
UI mean the fact you're claiming its industry wide kinda undermines your prefered narrative.
Can't get employed as the DEI already are in and straight white males are the last choice in being employed, zero to do with talent and everything to do with what your sexuality and gender is..
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by Start_Running:
Well then you need to do your part and get more men into the related fields m8.
Though its nice of you to admit what your problem actually is.
UI mean the fact you're claiming its industry wide kinda undermines your prefered narrative.
Can't get employed as the DEI already are in and straight white males are the last choice in being employed, zero to do with talent and everything to do with what your sexuality and gender is..

It is also them trying to destroy the Old Order, ie our current way of life before THEY go off the grid, ie the Cult.

Why many of us are already in the process of starting to build NEW Industries that will be decentralized WITHOUT them, and that the people of the world can control...

And it will be lasting for a LONG TIME at least...

We just have to get past this dark period first that we are heading into. And this LUNACY don't help...
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by Start_Running:
Well then you need to do your part and get more men into the related fields m8.
Though its nice of you to admit what your problem actually is.
UI mean the fact you're claiming its industry wide kinda undermines your prefered narrative.
Can't get employed as the DEI already are in and straight white males are the last choice in being employed, zero to do with talent and everything to do with what your sexuality and gender is..

So what theese talented straight white male game designers can't you know, create their own games?

Game development isn't an industry where someone needs to hire you.

And yes I'm glad you've admitted. This has nothing to do with talent and every thing to do with sexuality and gender.

You are very particular about the sexuality and gender, (and likely skin colour) of the people who make your games.

Meanwhile actual gamers, you know the people who play games for fun, don't give a flying feck about the checkboxes of the who.
Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Can't get employed as the DEI already are in and straight white males are the last choice in being employed, zero to do with talent and everything to do with what your sexuality and gender is..

It is also them trying to destroy the Old Order, ie our current way of life before THEY go off the grid, ie the Cult.

Why many of us are already in the process of starting to build NEW Industries that will be decentralized WITHOUT them, and that the people of the world can control...

And it will be lasting for a LONG TIME at least...

We just have to get past this dark period first that we are heading into. And this LUNACY don't help...
Well it seems the ship are righting themselves looking at all the game failures and job losses in the last 2-3 years..

When people ask when is the game industry crash.. We are currently living it.

Originally posted by Start_Running:
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Can't get employed as the DEI already are in and straight white males are the last choice in being employed, zero to do with talent and everything to do with what your sexuality and gender is..

So what these talented straight white male game designers can't you know, create their own games?

Game development isn't an industry where someone needs to hire you.

And yes I'm glad you've admitted. This has nothing to do with talent and every thing to do with sexuality and gender.

You are very particular about the sexuality and gender, (and likely skin colour) of the people who make your games.

Meanwhile actual gamers, you know the people who play games for fun, don't give a flying feck about the checkboxes of the who.
I assume you'd know why being developer and all, starting a games company is insanely expensive for honestly little to no gain.. No one with a brain would start a game company now as the industry is imploding..

You know all this.

Don't care huh how do you explain all the DEI games failing miserably.. If people don't care why is the masses stopped buying games wholesale.
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

It is also them trying to destroy the Old Order, ie our current way of life before THEY go off the grid, ie the Cult.

Why many of us are already in the process of starting to build NEW Industries that will be decentralized WITHOUT them, and that the people of the world can control...

And it will be lasting for a LONG TIME at least...

We just have to get past this dark period first that we are heading into. And this LUNACY don't help...
Well it seems the ship are righting themselves looking at all the game failures and job losses in the last 2-3 years..

When people ask when is the game industry crash.. We are currently living it.

Originally posted by Start_Running:

So what these talented straight white male game designers can't you know, create their own games?

Game development isn't an industry where someone needs to hire you.

And yes I'm glad you've admitted. This has nothing to do with talent and every thing to do with sexuality and gender.

You are very particular about the sexuality and gender, (and likely skin colour) of the people who make your games.

Meanwhile actual gamers, you know the people who play games for fun, don't give a flying feck about the checkboxes of the who.
I assume you'd know why being developer and all, starting a games company is insanely expensive for honestly little to no gain.. No one with a brain would start a game company now as the industry is imploding..

You know all this.

Don't care huh how do you explain all the DEI games failing miserably.. If people don't care why is the masses stopped buying games wholesale.

Ah yes, the only problem in the video game industry is "DEI". That's the only problem. Yep. Only problem.

As if

Corporate greed
The infinite pursuit of infinitely growing profits
Loot boxes
Cut content resold
Pay to win
Live services
Mandatory Online checkins for single player games
Over monetization of games(Looking at you Paradox and Dovetail)
Crunch Culture
Gaming being priced out of being anything other than a niche rich man's hobby
The insistence on targeting what are known as Whales and Krakens
Content being shipped with the game, but you have to buy access to it
Lack of QA Testing
Ship it now, maybe fix it if we're feeling nice mentality
Other launchers being required for games to run
Risk aversion leading to sequel after sequel rather than new IP
Oversaturation of genres(Roguelike, Zombie, Battle Royale, and Soulslike)
The push towards a streaming only future where you still pay full price for the games
Yearly sequels to series that are basically the previous year's game with minor alterations

all somehow don't exist.
You activists look at my list and pretend it doesn't exist. Pretend none of those problems exist or ever have existed. You look at them and think, "Nope, it's because blue haired liberal woman with a nose ring worked on this game."

The firings aren't the games industry healing itself. The firings are a symptom of the problem that has never quite gone away and in fact have been a problem/series of problems that I've been speaking out against since 2005.

The industry isn't going to "heal". It's going to be run into the ground and every executive is going to float off with their golden parachute into a new company with an even higher position, while every ground floor dev that was basically forced to either kowtow to their whims or be fired earlier is going to lose their job.
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

It is also them trying to destroy the Old Order, ie our current way of life before THEY go off the grid, ie the Cult.

Why many of us are already in the process of starting to build NEW Industries that will be decentralized WITHOUT them, and that the people of the world can control...

And it will be lasting for a LONG TIME at least...

We just have to get past this dark period first that we are heading into. And this LUNACY don't help...
Well it seems the ship are righting themselves looking at all the game failures and job losses in the last 2-3 years..

When people ask when is the game industry crash.. We are currently living it.

Originally posted by Start_Running:

So what these talented straight white male game designers can't you know, create their own games?

Game development isn't an industry where someone needs to hire you.

And yes I'm glad you've admitted. This has nothing to do with talent and every thing to do with sexuality and gender.

You are very particular about the sexuality and gender, (and likely skin colour) of the people who make your games.

Meanwhile actual gamers, you know the people who play games for fun, don't give a flying feck about the checkboxes of the who.
I assume you'd know why being developer and all, starting a games company is insanely expensive for honestly little to no gain.. No one with a brain would start a game company now as the industry is imploding..

You know all this.

Don't care huh how do you explain all the DEI games failing miserably.. If people don't care why is the masses stopped buying games wholesale.


Yep. The NAYSAYERS can't gaslight out of this one and say we aren't having a crash that is 100x bigger than the one in the 80s...
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

It is also them trying to destroy the Old Order, ie our current way of life before THEY go off the grid, ie the Cult.

Why many of us are already in the process of starting to build NEW Industries that will be decentralized WITHOUT them, and that the people of the world can control...

And it will be lasting for a LONG TIME at least...

We just have to get past this dark period first that we are heading into. And this LUNACY don't help...
Well it seems the ship are righting themselves looking at all the game failures and job losses in the last 2-3 years..

When people ask when is the game industry crash.. We are currently living it.
Except game failures are literally the only constant in the gaming induistry. As opised to the joblosses. Duh. ANyone who knows anything about the industry knew this was coming. COmopanies went on acquisition sprees and are no shedding the redundancies.

Nevermind the fact the gaming industry is the most decentralized industry out there already.


Originally posted by PocketYoda:
I assume you'd know why being developer and all, starting a games company is insanely expensive for honestly little to no gain..
It's as expensive as one lets it be.. As with most start ups.
If you're smart it can cost next to nothing.

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

No one with a brain would start a game company now as the industry is imploding..

You know all this.

What I know is that dozens of indie devs and small studios manage this seemingly impossible feat every year m8. And they'd been managing tto do this for literal decades. Some of them have managed to grow to become titans of the industry.

Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Don't care huh how do you explain all the DEI games failing miserably.. If people don't care why is the masses stopped buying games wholesale.

Because its not all the dei games failing m8.
Its just that every game that fails gets dubbed DEI.
When you like uit, when it succeed, well it can't possibly be dei now can it?

:P

Bruh. games fail all the time and most game failures can be chalked up to disastrous overspending combined with trying to chase a trend .
Originally posted by Reiya:
You activists look at my list and pretend it doesn't exist. Pretend none of those problems exist or ever have existed. You look at them and think, "Nope, it's because blue haired liberal woman with a nose ring worked on this game."

The firings aren't the games industry healing itself. The firings are a symptom of the problem that has never quite gone away and in fact have been a problem/series of problems that I've been speaking out against since 2005.

The industry isn't going to "heal". It's going to be run into the ground and every executive is going to float off with their golden parachute into a new company with an even higher position, while every ground floor dev that was basically forced to either kowtow to their whims or be fired earlier is going to lose their job.
I think we need to clarify. The AAA side of the game industry, isn't the ENtire industry. Because funnily enough while the big mega studios are having a hard time.. indies and small studios are knoicking it out of the park on the regular



Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

Yep. The NAYSAYERS can't gaslight out of this one and say we aren't having a crash that is 100x bigger than the one in the 80s...

A crash? and yet Steam's revenue keeps growing....
Originally posted by O Ri O:
He forgot to update his propaganda from when it was written.
I keep warning how the discourse is just a repackaged, old as dirt one. But people keep thinking they've bought a shiny new car

Originally posted by Start_Running:
Bruh. games fail all the time and most game failures can be chalked up to disastrous overspending combined with trying to chase a trend .
All the 'go woke, go broke' talking point is all a whole post hoc fallacy. We've seen plenty examples of games being roasted for 'being woke' just to have all the previous discourse swept under the rug the moment the game becomes an actual success.

Even Stellar Blade was blamed of wokeness when rumors of censorship surfaced. But hey...

Originally posted by D. Flame:
Stellar Blade sold like a million copies on Steam in like 3 days, IIRC. They announced a sequel in the works almost immediately after.
Originally posted by Start_Running:
Originally posted by Reiya:
You activists look at my list and pretend it doesn't exist. Pretend none of those problems exist or ever have existed. You look at them and think, "Nope, it's because blue haired liberal woman with a nose ring worked on this game."

The firings aren't the games industry healing itself. The firings are a symptom of the problem that has never quite gone away and in fact have been a problem/series of problems that I've been speaking out against since 2005.

The industry isn't going to "heal". It's going to be run into the ground and every executive is going to float off with their golden parachute into a new company with an even higher position, while every ground floor dev that was basically forced to either kowtow to their whims or be fired earlier is going to lose their job.
I think we need to clarify. The AAA side of the game industry, isn't the ENtire industry. Because funnily enough while the big mega studios are having a hard time.. indies and small studios are knoicking it out of the park on the regular



Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

Yep. The NAYSAYERS can't gaslight out of this one and say we aren't having a crash that is 100x bigger than the one in the 80s...

A crash? and yet Steam's revenue keeps growing....

I had a rough night, I woke up with a sore neck. So I used game industry to describe the AAA industry. Just tired and I wanted to talk about how indies are doing great... but slipped my mind, I got a dozen other things on my plate and not enough mental bandwidth for even two of em.
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Originally posted by O Ri O:
He forgot to update his propaganda from when it was written.
I keep warning how the discourse is just a repackaged, old as dirt one. But people keep thinking they've bought a shiny new car

Originally posted by Start_Running:
Bruh. games fail all the time and most game failures can be chalked up to disastrous overspending combined with trying to chase a trend .
All the 'go woke, go broke' talking point is all a whole post hoc fallacy. We've seen plenty examples of games being roasted for 'being woke' just to have all the previous discourse swept under the rug the moment the game becomes an actual success.

Even Stellar Blade was blamed of wokeness when rumors of censorship surfaced. But hey...

Originally posted by D. Flame:
Stellar Blade sold like a million copies on Steam in like 3 days, IIRC. They announced a sequel in the works almost immediately after.
You mean when the facts came to light.

Sony basically forced them to censor a few outfits with a day 1 patch.

Then when the game sold boatloads, they used that leverage to release even more risque costumes than the ones that had gotten censored.

Furthermore, they cut Sony off in the sequel.

So qhen all the facts were laid out, Stellar Blade was not woke activism, but a victim of Sony's woke policies, and the devs took corrwctive actions against Sony.

The activist also tried to get the game more censored and canceled, until they got outplayed when the devs revealed that she was a body scan of a real woman, and Korean roasted IGN live.

But I suppose you dont actually care about the facts.
Originally posted by Reiya:
Originally posted by Start_Running:
I think we need to clarify. The AAA side of the game industry, isn't the ENtire industry. Because funnily enough while the big mega studios are having a hard time.. indies and small studios are knoicking it out of the park on the regular





A crash? and yet Steam's revenue keeps growing....

I had a rough night, I woke up with a sore neck. So I used game industry to describe the AAA industry. Just tired and I wanted to talk about how indies are doing great... but slipped my mind, I got a dozen other things on my plate and not enough mental bandwidth for even two of em.
That's fair m8.
I keeps a coffee cake in the fridge for such mornings.

Just felt the need to clarify because as you've likely noticed many people, especially in the youtuibe sphere conflate AAA with The games Industry.

Right now the slate of failures do be having one thing in common. Overspending,
If there was a second thing, it'd be chasing the wrong trend.

All the AAA's basically want to be The NExt FOrtnite
Originally posted by BeastGohanofTruth:

Evangelical Christianity is just one of many demoninated perversions of Modern Day Christianity that literally is Zionism. Anita Sarkisian was one of the original POSTER CHILD's for the NWO to push for no more creativity. Then joined people later on like Brittany Venti and Melonie Mac, and those 2 are far worse: both are lesbians acting like they are Christian, but they only care about their petty greed coming from the cult. Nothing more than Pharisees that Jesus warned us about.

O_o

I think your dealer has started to cut your regular dose with bath salts.


The whole DEI Culture War has been nothing more than a Psyop and a GRIFT?!

Well, yeah. That's what we've been saying this whole time. The Right & MAGA have been using the whole SJW/woke/DEI thing as a grift for years and years now. Gotta keep the plebes angry and distracted with their manufactured culture wars, while they loot the country and dismantle democracy.
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
I keep warning how the discourse is just a repackaged, old as dirt one. But people keep thinking they've bought a shiny new car


All the 'go woke, go broke' talking point is all a whole post hoc fallacy. We've seen plenty examples of games being roasted for 'being woke' just to have all the previous discourse swept under the rug the moment the game becomes an actual success.

Even Stellar Blade was blamed of wokeness when rumors of censorship surfaced. But hey...
You mean when the facts came to light.

Sony basically forced them to censor a few outfits with a day 1 patch.

Then when the game sold boatloads, they used that leverage to release even more risque costumes than the ones that had gotten censored.

Furthermore, they cut Sony off in the sequel.

So qhen all the facts were laid out, Stellar Blade was not woke activism, but a victim of Sony's woke policies, and the devs took corrwctive actions against Sony.

The activist also tried to get the game more censored and canceled, until they got outplayed when the devs revealed that she was a body scan of a real woman, and Korean roasted IGN live.

But I suppose you dont actually care about the facts.


Only cognitive dissonant golems never care about facts, D Flame. You and I both know this. o7
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