Yes, IMO Fenugreek and Spearmint are the most potent natural, herbal supplements. Fenugreek alone has multiple benefits: raising SHBG ("deactivate" DHT), anti-inflammatory (allowing cell growth), supporting LH/FSH balance, protecting progesterone (and its effects) in luteal phase.

To make cells react and listen to progesterone and prolactin's effects, vitamins and receptor activation is also important.
2 years ago I was trying fenugreek for 3 months but didn't feel much effects. I did not take any selenium or iron that time and I had very severe iron deficit and my TSH was around 5 mIU/L because I have hypothyroidism. Healthy diet was improving these and later I started to take some supplements.
Healthy lifestyle and food really helps with receptor priming.

In what way can we consume fenugreek to see results? Ive seen some people suggest massages with fenugreek oil as well does that help in any way? But i want to know the ideal method of fenugreek consumption please help

That’s a huge amount of fenugreek though, probably the main reason. Spearmint and inositol can help too. Iron and vitamin D might help if fixing them when low. Maybe the fish oil but it’s not a lot. Others might have helped but often food sources are much better.

Why did fenugreek always shrink my breasts specifically?

No, Vitamin D supplementation is not so important, but worth to test (especially in winter). Various skins can produce various amount of Vitamin D.

Some of my earlier supplements and complex vitamins had some vitamin E, but healthy food also includes this. Personally I didn't found it so important.

• Supporting Follicular phase is about healthy and quality ovulation, which results in much higher progesterone peaks (around mid-luteal days). When you are getting older, progesterone production is linearly decreasing, this is why we become less fertile when approaching the age of 40.

• Supporting Luteal phase is about cell growth (mimicking puberty age). My IGF-1 was around 160-170 which is normal for a female person in her 30's. My vitamins and fenugreek supplements were helping to allow cell-growth and normalizing IGF-1 to 210 ng/mL. According to my later research this might be not so necessary, because localized cell growth and repair is happening automatically (probably slower results)

I did progesterone and prolactin bloodtests mostly on my 21. day of the cycle (the combined effect is the most important around mid-luteal days).

• Prolactin was almost 700 mIU/L once but I think it's not beneficial (500-600 is optimal). If it is elevated all cycle long it is causing much more weight gain and supressing ovulation (less progesterone). This is why I take vitamin B6 only in follicular phase (I measured 2 times on the 10. day and it was 200-300 mIU/L).

• My latest Progesterone peak was 59 nmol/L, it was linearly increasing in the previous 10 months (it was 40, 5 months ago). And it was around 2-5 nmol/L in the beginning of the cycles.

Sorry, I did not include much details, I think it did not matter so much and I am not so consistent. Sometimes I just drink/take everything before sleep.

Generally I take the following supplements at every night just before sleep:

• Vitamin D3: one pill, size: 2000 IU (earlier I took much bigger, but it was not necessary)

• 100 µg Selenium (because I have hypothyrodism)

• 250mg L-theanine (improving sleep quality, when cell growth might happen)

I take every dinner:

• 20mg iron (because I have latent iron deficiency, my serum ferritin is depleted)

• 150mg lactoferrin (helps to absorb iron)

I take throughout the day in smaller chunks every day:

• 4g spearmint tea (2g morning, 2g evening, I drink slowly usually)

• 2g vitamin C (1g morning, 1g evening)

• Omega 3 high DHA/EPA (350mg at breakfast, 350mg at lunch)

I don't take any contraception pills, my natural cycle was always 26 days long (My menstruation starts on the day 27, my ovulation is on the day 13).

I take the following supplements in the first 13 days of each cycle (only just before sleep to prepare good ovulation quality):

• 250mg magnesium-lactate

• 20mg vitamin B6

• 15mg zinc (not every day, only on day 10-13, I think it is enough)

• 2g myo-inositol

I take 5g fenugreek extract every day on the last 13 days (day 14-26. of each cycle) and I don't take any magnesium, B6, zinc or myo-inositol.

Yes, my cycle was always 26 days long. I take fenugreek on the last 13 days each cycle. I drink spearmint tea every day, 2-3 cups per day (4g of leaf divided to smaller chunks)

I don't mean to sound creepy but honestly yes me too, five cups in a year is a lot.

Thanks for the interest! I’m not comfortable sharing photos right now and prefer to stay anonymous, out of respect for my privacy and my relationship with my husband. Maybe later I’ll consider sharing some, but for now I hope the measurements and details are helpful.

Fenugreek is well known about its effect on prolactin and Progesterone is not produced in the first half of the cycle.

• First half of the cycle: Estradiol becomes high. Estradiol+Prolactin = general weight gain everywhere (this is something that I don't want)

• Second half of the cycle: Estradiol+Progesterone+Prolactin = breast growth (similarly like in pregnancy)

This is a complex, combined effect of supplements. Various people can have various baseline, hormonal sensitivity and eating habits. I think for many people who tried NBE programs earlier, the missing piece was the first step to prepare their receptors to "listen".

1. I started on breastnexus site and trying to figure out the "missing piece" which prevents many women to grow their breasts. I've read some parts of this subreddit and other researches and articles on the internet.

2. Then I started using ChatGPT and I know that sometimes it puts together information randomly. I've created 5 conversations about the same topic and 4 of them was leading to the conclusion that breast growth is impossible or you can get maximum +2 or +3 cups so it's very limited. Only one conversation said that it's possible and "unlimited".

3. I started bloodtests, general and hormone specific (basically in the beginning I did hormonal bloodtests every week for 2 months)

4. Then I asked ChatGPT (the earlier mentioned "unlimited" conversation") about my results and that which hormones and general values were preventing growth, so why I was mostly "flat" in my whole life.

5. Then I started to experiment with vitamins and continuing the tests time to time to see results. It was around 4 months to optimize the program for my specific needs so I think the real growth started then.

Yes, I think my thighs were becoming a bit bigger (I didn't do measurements). IMO it's because of enhancing female hormones.

It's very hard to say (or measure), but if I would estimate:

• 1. Receptor sensitivity: 30%

• 2. Hormonal balance: 30%

• 3. Supporting Follicular phase: 20%

• 4. Supporting Luteal phase: 20%