post by sese on Oct 11, 2024
Hi there,
I’ve just started my CI Japanese sessions and I’m only at 10 hours of input.
I started with Spanish CI a few months ago and have 150 hours of input. I’m amazed at how quickly I’ve made progress without any previous experience. I can already understand beginner videos and am now starting with intermediate videos.
With Spanish, however, it probably helps that I can speak German, English and Russian.
I’m curious to see how my progress in Japanese will be, I’ll probably need three times as long or more to achieve the same level of success.
Next year in March I’m also flying to Tokyo for the first time and I’m trying to have 300-400 hours of input by then. Let’s see if it helps me there. 
post by hanna on Oct 11, 2024
初めまして、sese!
Nice to meet you I joined CI Japanese recently myself, and have studied here for around 45 hours now - its been so much fun so far and I hope you enjoy it too!
It’s great cool to hear about your success Spanish CI, congrats on your progress It’s inspiring to hear you’ve made it on to intermediate videos there after 150 hours, that’s awesome Progress with Japanese might be a bit slower but I think it’ll be totally worth it for your trip to Tokyo. I hope you’re able to hit your goal before you travel next year, がんばってね!
post by sese on Oct 11, 2024
Nice to meet you hanna!
Good work with the 45 hours.
Had you studied Japanese in any other way before or just CI?
The beginning is always difficult, but as soon as you have passed the complete beginner phase, it gets better. Hopefully it’s the same here
post by hanna on Oct 11, 2024
thank you!
I first tried studying Japanese in my spare time when I was at university, but I found the workload with my other classes a bit overwhelming and I stopped At that time I was mostly just using textbooks, the main one I remember reading was Japanese for Busy People. It was hard work. How about you? Have you tried any other methods of learning Japanese?
I have definitely being finding CI a lot more enjoyable, it feels more like a hobby than studying I’m looking forward to one day getting past the beginner phase, but I’m gonna focus on enjoying the journey!
post by ayame on Oct 11, 2024
Hi sese,
I started doing Spanish CI one year ago, and I am at 650 hours right now. It has been amazing for my listening comprehension. I live in an area with a significant minority population who speaks Central American Spanish and I can understand most of the everyday conversations that happen around me. At this stage, however, I still struggle to speak coherently. Still, I am sure I will improve with practice and more time.
I am only able to listen to a little Japanese CI right now because of my greater need to learn Spanish. When I was in my early twenties, I lived in Japan for a year and did “acquire” some of the language, but now I am in my forties and I have not used Japanese in so long that I find many of the intermediate videos only partly comprehensible. But I want to encourage you because Japanese is really an interesting and fun language to learn, and I think you will do amazingly well having a few hundred hours of CI if you combine that with some basic knowledge of sentence structure. And I think we learn a lot about manners and culture on this channel. I wish I’d had such a rich and wonderful resource when I was living in Japan. Have an incredible time on your trip!
post by sese on Oct 14, 2024
For Spanish, I worked with classic apps like Babbel for about 30 hours until I switched completely to CI. Now in Japanese I only do CI.
CI is better for me and I have more motivation and I can integrate it well into my everyday life.
post by sese on Oct 14, 2024
Good work with your Spanish CI.
I grew up bilingual as a child (German/Russian). So I have done thousands of hours of indirect russian CI. But I never spoke in Russian but only answered in German.
Now as an adult I have the listening comprehension of a native speaker. But that doesn’t mean that I can speak Russian fluently.
You have to invest hundreds of hours in speaking practice after CI. So it’s quite normal to struggle at the beginning, even if you’ve already had hundreds of hours of CI.
post by ayame on Oct 15, 2024
Thanks, sese. You are right. Speaking in Spanish feels very awkward right now. I am more comfortable speaking in Japanese, even if I’m not very high level, but that is because I have a lot more speaking and conversational practice. When I was in Japan, I worked in a setting where I heard Japanese spoken most of the day, but native-level conversations could be hard to follow. I don’t know what my true CI level is, but I consider it to be a few hundred hours. (I’ve only tracked 50 on this site.) My indirect exposure to overheard Japanese would be 2000+ hours though.
Thanks for sharing your experience growing up bilingual. You speak many languages already, so I am sure you will do well with Japanese!
post by sese on Nov 18, 2024
Small update:
I am now at 51 hours. I’ve watched all the complete beginner videos once and am currently on the second round where I’m repeating everything again but also adding beginner videos to the playlist.
I will now adjust my strategy a little. Before, I usually watched around 1-2 hours a day. During that time, I was always 100% focused on the videos. But I will now try to increase my immersion. As I work from home, I can easily leave the videos running in the background for 3 to 5 hours. I just need more input, as Japanese CI is already difficult for me.
I also notice that I keep trying to translate things in my head, sometimes in German and sometimes in English. I just hope that with more input I will be better at just watching the videos.
The grammar and all the word endings.
post by kasasto on Nov 29, 2024
Hey sese!
Great to hear about your experience with dreaming Spanish. Currently trying it out now actually. CIJ was such a big part of how I’m learning Japanese that I want to give Spanish a go as well. I’m only at about 20 hours but the complete beginning stuff is starting to be pretty understandable depending on who the teacher is haha.
Trying to do a full Dreaming Spanish CI approach and see what happens for Spanish. I’m doing language transfer too just because it’s free I’m on lesson 62 right now.
Do you feel like just by watching you sufficiently learned words and grammar?
post by kasasto on Nov 29, 2024
Did you do pure DS? Or did you use textbooks, lookups, etc. as well.
post by sese on Nov 29, 2024
Hi kasasto,
good work!
I’m now at about 170 hours on DS and I’m very happy with my progress.
The Complete Beginner phase is the most difficult, but then the jump to Beginner and then Advanced went relatively quickly in Spanish.
Now with Japanese CI I’m not progressing so quickly at all and I’m wondering when I’ll reach that point. But the answer is always: you need more input. But the beginning is difficult.
And yes, you learn everything through CI. Grammar, words, pronunciation etc.
Even if you sometimes don’t realize it at the beginning.
Later you will also have to practise reading and then at some point speaking. That’s also hundreds of hours.
I would say that CI is the main pillar with which you have to combine the other learning methods.
post by sese on Dec 29, 2024
Just a quick update. Im now at 100 hours!
Im a little bit behind my schedule but i just keep going. 
post by naomiweebmode on Jan 10, 2025
Dreaming Spanish I assume? Through DS my spanish is getting to a point where I can get input from basically anything - video games, carroons, books, etc. so It’s becoming more practical for me to start japanese. We’ll have to rewatch a ton of videos or actually get out of the house and meet some japanese people though… there aren’t too many japanese CI videos out there yet
What made you want to learn japanese? It’s very difficult to learn compared to spanish in terms of required time and abundance for resources. For me, I pretty much just really like a lot of japanese animation and video games and need a new language to learn.
post by elthinar on Jan 13, 2025
Hi Naomi, I couldn’t agree more with the difficulty comparison between Spanish and Japanese. I have been learning Spanish for the past 5 years, and my level is probably as high as it needs to be living in a non-spanish speaking country (Australia). I maintain it through CI now. I recently started both Japanese and French following my ‘success’ learning Spanish. With both English (native) and Spanish (high intermediate)… French kind of feels like ‘easy mode’ compared to Japanese. I feel like I can consume french CI without any other form of learning. With Japanese however I feel like I ‘might’ understand the general message watching the easiest videos… but I could also be incorrect.
I chose Japanese as Japan is such a different and amazing culture that my family want to visit multiple times, and it is within an 8hr travel window of where I live (and therefore we don’t lose a day in transit each way).
post by sese on Jan 13, 2025
Yes, DS. I stopped at 170h because I want to concentrate on Japanese until mid-March. And yes, Japanese CI is brutally difficult for me. Grammar, the many particles, the countless possibilities to count something, it feels like every word has at least 3 different meanings. Crazy 
Last year I was looking for a new hobby that could be useful to me and that I could integrate well into my current everyday life. As I want to travel more, especially internationally, I came up with the idea of learning Spanish. When I found Spanish CI, I really enjoyed learning with this method.
So why am I learning Japanese? Because I’m going through my “I’m learning new languages” phase
and because I think it could be useful in the future .And since I’m traveling to Japan for the first time in March, I came up with the idea of this little experiment. Japan also has the potential to become a country that I would visit more regularly.
Somehow it’s also funny to think that a German village boy speaks Japanese. 
post by sese on Jan 27, 2025
Minasan, Konnichiwa!
I’m now at 154 hours. There are days when I understand some words, sometimes even full sentences. And then there are times, after a long 2- to 3-hour session, when no new words seem to stick in my head.
post by sese on Feb 18, 2025
Minasan, konnichiwa!
Now at 209 hours.
New favorite word: Denshirenji
Four weeks until my first flight to Tokyo!
post by sese on Mar 19, 2025
Minasan, konnichiwa from Tokyo!
I didn’t reach my goal of 300 hours. I have to admit that in the last 2–3 weeks, I was a bit lazy. That’s why I flew to Japan with 255 hours.
Now it’s time to recharge and then keep going. I’m here for the long run.
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