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[–]Total-Introduction32 137 points138 points  (20 children)

But then all the toxic male Nazi gamers went on a murdering rampage against women and therefore women in video games be ugly now. ( - current day IGN)

[–]Arkelias 87 points88 points  (18 children)

I think what floored me the most was watching what happened in Afghanistan after the US pulled out. Sharia law is messed up, and it returned over night. Women lost all their rights in a 24 hour time period.

Meanwhile a game comes out with an attractive woman in it, and women are "literally dying." The histrionics are so over the top. They're just disconnected from reality.

They've been taught that disagreement is violence, but that actual violence against women is just part of a culture we need to accept.

[–]joydivisionucunt 26 points27 points  (15 children)

The histrionics are so over the top. They're just disconnected from reality.

Maybe that's why? I don't know exactly how to explain it, but maybe they're so used to call things "violence" that they're desensitized to it in a way, so when they see stuff like that, they might not realize how different that is. There's only so much you can do from a completely different country that isn't involved anymore, but still... Get a fucking grip.

[–]Arkelias 28 points29 points  (13 children)

It's been difficult in my own personal life. I had to cut off my best friend's mother and sister who have been friends for decades.

They said they wouldn't ever vote for a man. I have a four year old son. They wouldn't vote for him based on immutable characteristics.

They went on to lambast me for the way Muslims were treating women in Afghanistan, and were completely honest that they believed all men are responsible for the actions of any man.

The trouble is all the men are checking out of their lives. They don't have anyone to build or repair or protect, and I think they're starting to notice.

Weak men make hard times, and when those ladies find themselves in need of help they're not going to find it. My son's generation is noping out of dating. They don't see the point.

[–]f3llyn 16 points17 points  (2 children)

My son's generation is noping out of dating. They don't see the point.

It's most men below the age of 45 that have given up on dating. You are literally taking your life in your hands, gambling on dating these days.

[–]austin123523457676 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Nothing to gain literally everything to lose

[–]CrustyBloke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Men are still going to end up paying. I think we're heading towards a harem based society. A small portion of men and women will have traditional relationships. The remaining women will be shared by a small portion of the guys who are deemed desirable. The large portion of the guys who are unwanted/undesirable are still going to have to help pay for these women's children and other expenses through their tax dollars that fund an ever increasing benefits system.

[–]joydivisionucunt 8 points9 points  (9 children)

I don't think they realize a society where men genuinely don't care about women would not be a feminist utopia, it's not just dating/relationships, it's also stuff like not helping women in a dangerous situation. 

[–]Arkelias 8 points9 points  (8 children)

I think you're right. They also take the roads, and buildings, and electricity, and water, and the gas that comes out of the pump for granted. That's all over 95% men.

[–]joydivisionucunt 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Those would likely be fine as long as people don't live separated by gender, the issue would be if an all-female household needs a repair, I guess.

I was thinking of social attitudes mostly, at the "minimum" is men not giving up their seats for pregnant women or those who travel with young kids, at worst is some kind of Taliban-esque situation where women might as well be an object.

[–]Arkelias 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I think there are going to be a LOT more all female households going forward.

I game on Saturdays with long time friends. Four out of five are single with no desire to date. All are over 40. All have saved a big pile of money. They're happy as clams.

Meanwhile my female friends over 40 have no retirement savings, a dead end job if any, and crippling debt. One lives in a tent in someone's front yard.

I already see men not giving up their seats, or defending women, or opening doors. Those social attitudes are getting worse, and it's building into seething resentment, because they know society hates men.

At the same time the proportion of citizens from cultures who don't respect women are growing, especially in Europe. I think you're right that a Talian-esque situation is on the way, because only men can stop that from happening, and they're just going to shrug at best, and laugh at worst.

[–]LostWanderer88 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Men are going to care about themselves alone. Crime rates are concerning for all, or should be

[–]Arkelias 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Very few people can understand society at a macro level.

The young men noping out of society don't care about downstream consequences. They just want to get off work, and go home and get high and game. They'll tune everything else out.

Eventually the crime will intrude, but by the time society wakes up it's generally too late and you're too close to collapse.

There's a reason I spent the last few years prepping. I bought a solar generator, tools, hardware, food, a firearm, and then learned how to use it all.

The cavalry isn't coming and if Europe is any indication we're going to see skyrocketing violence in the next few years. If it goes full balkanization yikes.

Hopefully things stabilize, and that is still very possible IMO, but we are due for a crash so I expect some hard years. Crime was awful in the 70s and marriage rates were down, but nothing like today.

[–]joydivisionucunt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

True, but to be fair I feel like society as a whole is a bit ruder/disrespectful since the lockdowns so it's not just men, it doesn't help, but it's not a male only thing.

[–]Arkelias 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. It's good for no one, and leads to a ruined society. Violence and crime explode. History is pretty clear.

[–]LostWanderer88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Society has been losing common sense for years. The lockdown just accelerated the process

Violent cultures however can profit from it

[–]collymolotov 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The theory does indeed teach that any negative societal impact or structure is “violence.” I remember laughing at the idea as being histrionic and ridiculous in a university “peace studies” course in 2011. Evicting people who don’t pay rent is violence, for example, in their Marcusian theory.

To a normal thinking person it’s completely absurd but to those indoctrinated into the death cult that is the left it makes perfect sense which is why they can parrot inanities such as “silence is violence” with a straight face.

[–]Several_Run3775 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because woke white feminists only care if it's " toxic white male " .." the patriarchy"

[–]_nobody_else_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”

~Aldous Huxley

[–]DUNdundundunda[S] 44 points45 points  (11 children)

Gaming magazines used to be good:

https://i.imgur.com/WEPVqyd.jpeg

I always liked the aussie official playstation mags.

Also

These were promo photos for NFS pro street:

https://i.imgur.com/5zqZJRn.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/zV4fsPS.jpeg

[–]Ambitious-Doubt8355 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Man... not only were the advertisements actually aimed at their core audience, rather than pandering to people who don't even play them, but the games listed in the cover were better than most of the slop that gets pushed out nowadays. We're talking the original Assassin's Creed, Saints Row 2, Uncharted, Lost Planet, NFS Pro Street.

Bro, take me back to the 2000s...

[–]DrJester123458 GET | Order of the Sad 🎺 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Me too!! Seeing all of that and then comparing it to Suicide Squad, the Saints Row rebooted, the Assassin's Creed Generic Girlboss, Alan Woke II... yeah, early 2000s to 2010... those were the days...

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

British official ps mag was good too. We also had one called play and that was the tits.

[–]Minute_Astronomer675 3 points4 points  (1 child)

After metoo and everything even this is for only 18+? lmao

https://i.imgur.com/WEPVqyd.jpeg

[–]SupermarketEmpty789 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hah, I didn't notice. Imgur labelled it r18. This was just a magazine on the shelves with all the others back in the day

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

IS that a heckin woman? Avert thine eyes male gaze!

[–]_xX69ChenYejin69Xx_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wish I could go back 😭😭😭

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It's offensive if it's on a magazine cover. However, it's empowering and encouraged if it's on OF. What a sad, fucked world

[–]DUNdundundunda[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

hey it wasn't offensive back in 2007, at least where i live. This was common on magazine covers. Surfing mags, car mags, motorbike mags, movie mags, etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, I was being sarcastic...I live in EU, and only started seeing this crap post 2020 when everyone got locked in their homes with too much exposure to the internet, 'til then I thought it's exclusive to crazy blue haired Americans on twitter

[–]Dapper-River-2046 36 points37 points  (4 children)

This picture alone greatly showcases the downfall, just look at the contrast between the headline of the article and that Palestinian flag.

[–]LegendaryBoi12 22 points23 points  (3 children)

What does Palestine have to do with video games? Is it Palestinian Gaming Day?

[–]Dapper-River-2046 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Exactly. What does Palestine have to do with video games, and why IGN must virtue signal so hard on every step?

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    [–]theACEbabana 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Tell ‘em that “Islam is right about women” and watch their heads explode trying to square the circular peg.

    [–]entropig 24 points25 points  (1 child)

    Gaming was good right before micro-transactions existed.

    [–]Hamakua94k GET! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I miss the days of unlocks via in-game achievements.

    [–]North_Leg9721 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    It literally feels like its from another dimension ,Bizaro world, except it actually happened.

    Like in only 10 years the general population has completely shifted and we're now living in the censorship world conservative puritans of the 90's envisioned.Except its not even that,since porn has been completely normalized and you hear garbage like sex work is real work all the time.

    Third wave feminism, bending to what affluent liberal white women want and accommodating certain loud minorities is the root cause.

    [–]Total-Introduction32 47 points48 points  (8 children)

    Remember when actual F1 still had hot babes in the pitlane (and E3 still had booth babes. And still existed)?

    [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    MotoGP still has hot babes

    [–]Hamakua94k GET! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    SHHH, Shut up, don't alert them!

    [–]dandrixxxproglodyte destroyer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    2017 was the last F1 season with grid girls, feels like it was just yesterday.

    [–]LordRevan84 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    Remember when the F1 engine didn't sound like shit?

    [–]Wulfgar_RIP 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    This is sound of progress. Thanks to those engines F1 can offset 1 flight between race tracks in couple of years.

    [–]North_Leg9721 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    No more re-fueling and engine failures made the sport a absolute bore.

    [–]ArmeniusLOD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Refueling wasn't a thing in the official rules until 1994 when F1 felt they needed to spice up the races to compete with American motorsports. It wasn't explicitly banned by the rules until 1983 after some teams started races with low fuel due to figuring out they could finish races quicker by starting light and refueling during tire changes.

    In F1's 74 year history, only during the 15 year period from 1994-2009 was refueling allowed.

    [–]ArmeniusLOD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's because the rules severely limit the fuel rate when the engines can go much higher without affecting reliability or fuel efficiency. The reason F1 limits it is because they believe it levels the playing field among teams, not due to feel-good climate agenda pushing. The move to 4-cylinder engines in the near future is part of that agenda, though, and I'm sure the regulations will have even more of an iron grip. So no possibility of 1600 HP 4-cylinder engines like BMW had in the 1980s.

    [–]TheMysticTheurge 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    Yep. Things used to be good. It's because they used to be made by people who loved telling a good story and pleasing customers. Things changed.

    Now games are made BY narcissists FOR narcissists.

    [–]Redditheadsarehot 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    I generally have no issues ignoring all the woke bullshit. I'm just here for solid gameplay and a good story. But it's just gotten SO overbearing the last couple years. The biggest recent offender that actually DID offend me was Forbidden West. I loved Zero Dawn and don't even remember how many characters were white, black, or purple, regardless of their sexual orientation. Which is exactly how it SHOULD be. But holy hell does FW shove that rainbow DEI dildo down your throat repeatedly. If you're fighting for survival of the human race you don't inject your sexual orientation into every f*cking conversation with someone you just met. It's so unrealistic and forced that it completely rips you out of any sense of immersion in the story. Even if the characters were straight that would destroy immersion because no one f*cking talks like that. There's so few characters that you know are straight but they make sure it gets thrown in your face any time they aren't.

    Then you have absolutely ZERO straight white males in the game that aren't either a complete oaf, a comically cartoon bad guy, or a massive simp looking for a big strong gurl boss to come save their ass, while the game is absolutely chock full of strong independent "I don't need no man" gurl bosses. Then your 2 leading white male antagonists are so horribly written where the first game at least gave Faro an understandable motive even if you violently disagreed with him, but FW straight up made them cartoon womanizing bad guy monsters with God complexes.

    Forbidden West is a perfect example of DEI run amok and I refuse to spend another penny on Sony titles until they stop being racist against straight white people.

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      [–]cdrewsr388 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Holy shit. That’s on the IGN home page??? Jesus H Fuck that is insane

      [–]dandrixxxproglodyte destroyer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That's archived from 2021, when the previous Israel-Palestine conflict took place. There was bit of a drama between IGN US and IGN Israel with the latter complaining to the IGN's parent compant about the US branch putting up that Palestinian flag. If i remember correctly IGN US were forced to take it down.

      [–]FirstLine1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Pepperidge Farm Remembers

      [–]you_wouldnt_get_it_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I don’t know if we’ll ever get a return to the golden era of gaming. But I’m really happy I at least got to experience it growing up.

      But man. What I would give to go back and re-experience those afternoons and nights playing games made for gamers by gamers again.

      [–]Financial-Working132 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      We have California to thank for the decline of gaming.

      [–]master_criskywalker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Those times were fun! Women were empowered to show their beautiful bodies and everyone was equally allowed to enjoy looking at their beauty.

      [–]_nobody_else_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Remember when gaming was good?

      Yeah. The 15 years from 1995 to 2010. The amount of great and cult-status games released in that period is just off the charts.

      Honesty? In the next 15 years it will probably be a geographical statistical oddity. 30 years from anywhen,

      EDIT: Replaced "the next" expression from the start to the end of the post function.

      [–]collymolotov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      🎶Now that we’re here, so far as away….

      [–]wearethemonstertruck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Did they really put a Palestine flag on IGN's logo?

      [–]AdmiralJackDeviluke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Sjws and modern military obsessed realism bums have ruined gaming

      [–]_xX69ChenYejin69Xx_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Why is IGN flying UAE flag lol

      [–]blue_psyOP777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah

      [–]quaestor44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I guess I’ll go ahead and gatekeep but gaming used to be niche. You had to have some technical know-how especially for PC multiplayer. I mean normies still played stuff like neopets and The Sims. But the popular games still had their own identities.

      The spread of broadband and social media in the late 2000s / early 2010s began the downfall along with the plug-and-play console revolution. Now everything is thoroughly focus-grouped and MTX’d to hell.

      [–]Imgema -4 points-3 points  (8 children)

      Dunno... I remember cringing when they were trying to sell sex appeal in videogames, though compared to what we have today i somewhat miss it.

      I just prefer the Nintendo/Sega days. Just games and nothing more.

      [–]North_Leg9721 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      It was somewhat cringy,but just like ecchi anime or various other fan service whatever makes SJW's mad is always a win.

      And also because it showed devs were in tune with... their actual audiences not the mythical 'modern gamers'/ "50% of all gamers are women"

      [–]MrTT3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      We don’t know what we got, i too used to think it’s lame because there no way the in game graphic can be like that.

      [–]ArmeniusLOD 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      You mean Sega ads like this?

      Or Nintendo ads like this?

      [–]Imgema 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Νo i mean stuff during their 8/16bit days. Your examples are from after Sony had made games more mainstream and adult oriented with the Playstation.

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          [–]Devils_Afro_Kid -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Imo gaming IS still good, you just need to know where to look.

          Indie games are better than ever. Gaming was a niche hobby, then it got big and ruined by all kinds of interested parties. However, within this big bad gaming, there's a good niche indie scene. We had a nice niche hobby, and we still have a nice niche hobby in indie games today. In a way, nothing has changed. Ironically, only if you've gone mainstream with the games, then gaming is bad.