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So what happens if Archive.today goes go down?

Context for the unaware: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1qspk6x/archivetoday_is_directing_a_ddos_attack_against/

So like, is this about to be it? The only mainstream and viable non-Wayback archiving site, which is especially useful for both X and this reddit site (both of which are unable to save on the Wayback now), is torching itself bc of its lunatic owner. Wikipedia is removing their archives to it now out of legitimate concerns.

What happens now? I know this is a dumb rhetorical, but a lot of stuff was saved on there.

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All websites and servers go down eventually. If you need continued access to data you need to keep a local copy .

All local copies go down eventually. If you need continued access to data you need to keep an offsite copy.

All offsite copies go down eventually. If you need continued access to data you need to keep 3 copies, on 2 storage mediums, with 1 of them elsewhere.

After the service tampered with the content, you don't even know if the websites stored there are still correct, or manipulated.

Even though I am not a fan of this action, this tampering happened only in one specific blog (which was later reverted, see below quote). I still trust Archive Today for 99.9% of the websites. Seems like there is some campaign going on by some agency trying to "discredit" Archive today (pressure from news publishers who are losing revenue due to archive today). Not fair TBH.

Quote from the specific wiki:

> In captures of a blog post related to the "Nora" pseudonym, the operator had replaced instances of "Nora" with "Jani Patokallio", including in comment fields that previously read "Comment as: Nora [surname]". The alterations were subsequently reverted

99.9% of a million websites is still 1000 websites manipulated. And 100% trust lost.

archive.tomorrow?

I’ve been seeing https://ghostarchive.org/ suggested as an alternative.

Seems to work! I was trying to Archive a Reuters article and archive.ph, archive.is and archive.tomorrow were not archiving the page (It kept running that code page where it fetches the article or what ever) but this one worked right away! Thank you! 

FWIW, I've been submitting Reddit threads to the Wayback using the old.reddit domain and it seems to be working.

I'll probably lose a few dozen pages I'd saved for various things like local ISPs rates changing, new service availability and such. I can't see any obvious straightforward way to bulk download what I've saved, especially since captcha trips just for trying to glance at anything on there now.

I don't know that there are that many viable alternatives. There's the ghost archive thing mentioned but most archive on click sites aren't willing to make the effort required to archive pages on archive hostile sites like Reddit.

At this point it really seems like your own local backups are the only way to make sure you can save a true copy of anything. I use SingleFile myself to save snapshots of websites.

for me since days many of the archive.* domains are offline (showing just the NGINX "Welcome to nginx!"

Are they all offline or just me?

They're working for me right now, but it's always inconsistent

2 months in the future they've been down for me for a week or two. 

Seems like they're dead. 

interesting: when I open the same url in a new window without cookies: it works

somehow I got "banned" from the site. maybe because I read an article about the archive (streisand effect?) and followed a link to the archive ...

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It already never works for me, does that mean it’s down forever or just a stanky janky spaghetti website?

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Why would it go down? If some asshole was trying to dox me while I provide a helpful service i’d probably want some payback too.

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Read it again, I still think the blog owner is an asshole.

Do you run archive.today?