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[–]AshleyAshes1984 95 points96 points  (13 children)

"Battles with Wikipedia"

Wikipedia concluded they were using Captcha to run a DDOS attack and editing archived content to attack a journalist they were mad at. That's not a 'Battle' with Wikipedia, that's Wikipedia saying 'Fuck this guy' and simply walking away.

[–]diamondsw210TB primary (+parity and backup) 139 points140 points  (12 children)

word says the FBI did it

[citation needed]

The owner did it to themselves, by mounting a surreptitious DDoS campaign and altering the content of the archives to slander people, thus making it an unreliable source. This prompted Wikipedia to (correctly) remove it from all outbound links.

It's moot if it's online anymore or not - it's not a valid archive.

[–]AshleyAshes1984 45 points46 points  (6 children)

I'm assuming 'Crashing out and deleting fucking everything' until proven otherwise.

[–]putridterror1.44MB 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Seen some really cool places fall due to that.

[–]tanksalotfrank 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I keep reading about this happening with coders on game mods lately, and now this. I wonder what's up with that

[–]AshleyAshes1984 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Social media. Too much contact with your users and their every gripe, the users in too much contact with each other able to rile each other up over the latest 'controversy', and every comment the devs make gets scrutinized.

I mean, in this case the operator of this archive is truly up to some nonsense but all of the above is surely causing the operator to go kinda batshit as it melts down around him.

[–]tanksalotfrank 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just another collective Fan Hitting with a Shitting I suppose

[–]WRX_RAWR100TB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That and vibe coding devs in r/selfhosted.

[–]Mindless_Turnover976 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is heartbreaking if true. There was a lot of great stuff saved there that wasn't avalable anywhere else.

[–]TwoCylToilet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the context. I was completely OOTL.

[–]Sad-Seesaw-3843 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Any good alternatives?

[–]Gioware 2 points3 points  (1 child)

None. It was amazing archive allowing me to read what I could not otherwise. Now there are other trash addons and plugins supposedly letting you trough paywalls but those are very shitty.

[–]Sad-Seesaw-3843 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I loved it to read paywalled articles. Too bad the guy behind it was a piece of shit who ended up destroying it.

[–]basket_case_case 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Aren’t these all run by the same guy? If so I’d assume this is one archive with three faces. 

Calling this three archives is likely overselling things and makes me question the motives of the framer. 

[–]libreDucks 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's one archive with multiple domains (more than three)

the main domain has switched over the years

[–]ChaosUncaged 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, all one guy. Surprised it lasted this long

[–]JlHAD 10 points11 points  (6 children)

In case anyone is finding this from googling “Is Archive Today down?”

The reason you can’t connect is most likely because of your DNS resolver or because you’re using a VPN.

NextDNS in particular does not work well with Archive Today; it often returns a bad IP. From what I remember it’s due to the fact that NextDNS doesn’t provide ECS during a query, and this negatively affects Archive Today’s load balancing, so Archive Today’s name server just deliberately returns a bad IP.

ControlD DNS (which I recommend over NextDNS) also doesn’t provide ECS by default, but I have never had any issue resolving Archive Today.

Archive Today seems to be blocking some VPN severs now too. Proton’s free servers are blocked, as are some of TorGuard’s servers. NordVPN works fine, as does WindScribe.

It’s a pain in the hole but I can forgive the guy. The project is basically one man’s passion vs a coalition of governments, media outlets and industries. He’s the closest thing to a real-life Robin Hood.

[–]Vyksendiyes 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I keep getting stuck on captchas. Have any idea why that might be? 

[–]Chaigidel 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Everyone with a Finnish IP I've heard from has been stuck in a captcha loop and unable to connect since mid-January. I'm assuming this is something the Archive Today owner set up because of his feud with the Finnish blogger.

[–]Alan_B_Stard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think surrounding regions that have routes related to Finland or common corporate telcos are also hit.

[–]Vyksendiyes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Interesting, but I’m not in Finland. And this has been happening across various browsers and I don’t think they would all route their traffic through the same servers.

[–]Chaigidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Using a Tor browser still works.

[–]Aggravating_Drama_10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same 😫

[–]sebmojo99 6 points7 points  (2 children)

it's up for me?

[–]ksx4systemI breathe ZFS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

up for me too

[–]Resident-Log 10 points11 points  (1 child)

How does Wikipedia removing links to it "blast it off the web"? Sounds like someone is just mad they aren't getting traffic

[–]LudicrousPeople 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Their domains have been marked as malicious in some lists.

I was using adguard's ad blocking DNS server and they blocked all of their domains. I had to switch to another ad block DNS.

[–]King-of-Plebss 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I’m pretty new to the hoarder space. Can someone clue me in what people typically capture from this site? Like news articles that we think will be changed or deleted?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

that and paywalled content mostly. stuff that may get removed from archive.org. but it was removed from wikipedia because of the owner using it to launch DDOS attacks against a journalist they didn't like.

[–]King-of-Plebss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah got it. Thanks for the response.

[–]FirefighterNext7711 2 points3 points  (2 children)

They are all still live for me?

[–]TheGrouchyPunisher 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think this depends what country you're in, and if you're using a VPN. Some countries have actively blocked these sites. Working for me in the US right now.

[–]LudicrousPeople 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Adguard's ad blocker DNS server blocked them several weeks ago. I had to switch to a new ad block DNS.

[–]TwstedTV 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Someone needs to place a server where the FBI has absolutely no jurisdiction whatsoever.
Like China, North Korea, hell even russia. Just places that any government with 3 letters can't just waltz in and demand things.

[–]alpy03 1 point2 points  (0 children)

didn't russia block this back in march?

[–]LudicrousPeople 1 point2 points  (6 children)

If you can't access these domains, try changing your DNS server. If you use your ISP's DNS server, switch to one of the free DNS servers. If you use one of the free DNS services, switch to another free DNS service.

I used AdGuard's free ad-blocking DNS server until they blocked this site's domains several weeks ago. I switched to another free ad-blocking DNS server, and now I have no problem accessing the archive site, including just now when I tested.

[–]Gioware 1 point2 points  (1 child)

another free ad-blocking DNS server

Can you please let me know which one?

[–]Alan_B_Stard 0 points1 point  (3 children)

another free ad-blocking DNS server

Yeah, which one?

[–]LudicrousPeople 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm not sure how you missed my reply from 4 days ago, perhaps just reddit wonkiness, but here's a link to that reply.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/sE3NRrGfub

[–]Alan_B_Stard 0 points1 point  (1 child)

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/sE3NRrGfub

"there doesn't seem to be anything here"

Is this a shadowban or something?

Incognito tab says "This comment no longer exists"

[–]Cajita_JA 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It even got blocked by russians.... i'm worried for the content, i used it to archive lots of things over the years...

[–]Mindless_Turnover976 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm very worried too

[–]Nangle_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Archive.is

[–]Adunaiii 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is it down again? I haven't been able to open it for days, really sad and makes me paralyzed to do anything online as it can all be deleted.

Edit 22 min later - it has magically worked! No VPN, no different browser, just randomly loaded... Bizarre.

[–]Plenty-Indication-90 0 points1 point  (1 child)

does archived.moe work for you ?

[–]Adunaiii 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course that one works. Archive Today is completely dead again, nothing helps... Has the dev said anything on his Tumblr blog?

[–]cogdisso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

any updates? It isn't working for me today

[–]RedditorForReddit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it's up for me