>>18521436 (OP)
>Was Balfour Declaration a banking deal?
No. Balfour and several other members of the cabinet had been zionists long before the war broke out. It became opportune to promise the Jews a homeland in 1917 because it was apparent the Ottoman Empire wouldn't survive, making a Jewish state in the Middle East tenable.

>>18521661
Sounds like a really shitty deal.

>>18521661
>Balfour and several other members of the cabinet had been zionists long before the war broke out.
Thats because they wanted to keep wandering jews out of England

>>18521436 (OP)
I will look up the exact quote and its source later, but it goes something like this: "I have it on good authority that when Lord Balfour made his famous declaration about Palestine, he did not know there were Arabs living in that country".

>>18521436 (OP)
I'm Jewish so this is a loaded topic for me but there were Jews living in Palestine and before the Balfour Declaration and there were non-negligible waves of migration there even under the Ottomans.

>>18522224
>"there were jews living in Palestine"
there are jews living EVERYWHERE. that's not a basis to claim anything. I bet that there were fewer jews in Palestine at the time of the Balfour declaration than there were in my native city (which is Sathmar, so maybe that's not too significant).

>>18521436 (OP)
I miss when people used to write their own bait instead of getting ai do it for them.

>>18522214
It's amazing how well the Non-Jewish Pro-Zionist Western ruling class has buried the fact that they supported Zionism specifically because it would allow them to expel Europes Jews in a way that wouldn't upset Liberals too much. Zionism only took on a religious dimension or ideology about "democracy, freedom, and the holocaust" when it's main basis of foreign patronage switched to America, whose ruling class (bar a few outliers like Henry Ford) ass a group had no real desire to expel it's Jewish population like Europes did.

>>18521436 (OP)
palestine lost, tranny

>>18522232
Zionism was already a thing at that point and the first aliyah/migration wave had happened, you're thinking of earlier in like the 18th/early 19th century
it wasn't as Jewish as it'd become under British rule but they were already a relevant enough population in the area to be worth trying to win over

>>18522218
>"I have it on good authority that when Lord Balfour made his famous declaration about Palestine, he did not know there were Arabs living in that country".
This is bullshit but it sounds so much in character for the Eternal Anglo as to be believable.

>>18522407
>It was real in my mind

>>18522218
>>18522407
found it. the quote is from theologian William Inge:
>"When Arthur Balfour launched his scheme for peopling Palestine with Jewish immigrants I am credibly informed that he did not know there were Arabs in the country"

The Anglos made a deal with the Jews. In exchange for Palestine, the Jews would pull America into the war against Germany.

>>18526256
Has there ever been a conflict in modern history settled on a battlefield?

>>18521436 (OP)
In part it was ironically based on an anti-semitic trope that the jews controlled world finance, so it would be to Britain's benefit to get on their good side. But only in part. Zionism had a romantic appeal to a certain Victorian mindset of upper class Britons that they could be part of making History by helping to establish a Jewish state when one had not existed for almost 2000 years. This romanticism can also be seen in how the British acted in support of the Greek revolution.

>>18522232
Palestine was not some random colonial project for the Jews though, it genuinely is the Jewish homeland.

>>18527835
which they abandoned on their own free will. if jews in 1947 are the descendants of jews who lived in antiquity, then they took back by force what their ancestors sold when they emigrated.

>>18527851
Many Jews were forcibly removed from that land in the time of ancient Rome, and in regards to "taking it back by force" prior to 1948 all zionist settlement in Palestine was on land lawfully purchased from arab landlords, often at exorbitant prices. So if anything the war was a chimpout by arabs who wanted to steal back what THEY had sold to the Jews. Had they just accepted the UN partition plan like the Jews did they'd have been SO much better off.

>>18527858
first of all, no. jews were emigrating centuries before Rome took the land. there was a large jewish diaspora in Egypt before the time of Alexander. then, again no, jews were expelled from Jerusalem, not from the entire land. finally, the Ottoman regime was just in the process of introducing modern cadastral registries for land ownership, this process halted during the mandate and when Israel was established, only about 30% of the land was registered this way; the 70% rest was owned based on the 'bring four witnesses to establish your ownership' principle. when Israel was established, that 70% was simply declared to be state-owned land and given away to immigrant jews.
finally, no, it was done by force. there were jewish terrorist groups operating in the area, both against the Bri'ish and the arabs. the fairy tale that arabs just ran away from their lands during the Nakhba without the threat of violence is also retarded. and Israel was established in the shadow of the Allied weapons.

>>18527872
>the fairy tale that arabs just ran away from their lands during the Nakhba without the threat of violence is also retarded
when did I say that? They ran away from their lands because other arabs told them to, assuming they'd be coming back after a quick and easy victory against the Jews. But that of course did not happen. And yes I imagine there was some forced removal by Jewish terrorists, though I doubt on a large scale. Certainly nothing on the scale of the 800,000 Jews expelled from Arab lands after the creation of Israel. A far more effective and complete genocide than anything Israel ever did. But you don't care about that, do you?

>>18527875
that's exactly right, I don't care about the 80000000000 jews who were expelled after arabs were expelled from palestine.

>>18527882
So you think might makes right? If that's the case then you should just stop complaining, loser.

Like other anons has stated, Balfour was an antisemite who wanted jews to leave Britain.
Even the NSDAP used zionism for that purpose (Haavara Agreement) because it was effective.

The main purpose of the Balfour declaration was the fact that Britain was in a desperate situation so it was scraping the barrel for support. Jews were a large minority in Europe, especially in Germany.
They also promised Palestine to the Arabs, it was the whole reason for T.E Lawrence being sent to Arabia, to promise them a united Arab state if they aid Britain against the Ottomans.
When Britain won ww1 they simply took Palestine for themselves, and began limiting jewish immigration because it caused instability among the local arabs. The White Paper passed in 1939 virtually rejected everything Balfour Declaration had promised; Britain wanted a Palestine and further preventing Jewish settlement.
In the 1948 war for Israels establishment Britain was deeply resentful against a jewish state after Jewish insurgents had frequently targeted British officials. It led Britain to sell virtually all its weapons to the arabs, train and lead arab divisions with British officers, and RAF stationed in the region threaten skirmishes with the Israeli forces etc.

>>18527902
typical jewish "debate tactics", just making shit up.

>>18528004
If you have a point to make then make it.

>>18527925
>It led Britain to sell virtually all its weapons to the arabs, train and lead arab divisions with British officers, and RAF stationed in the region threaten skirmishes with the Israeli forces etc.
Why did they still fail despite this?

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>>18527872

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16378034

>>18528004
what exactly in that post is made up?

>>18528004
Uh oh, muslim got called out and had a meltie.

>>18527902
>might makes right?
who used might first?

>>18527858
First off, there was already a massive Jewish diaspora before the Bar Kochba revolt, Alexandria alone had a higher Jewish population than Judea did. The diaspora was mostly unaffected by the fallout of the revolt and it is this already-existing diaspora that most Jews today descend from.

Second, Hadrian didn't genocide the whole of Judea, he only barred Jews from Jerusalem. The vast majority of Jews in the region stayed put and over the centuries they converted to Christianity and then Islam, meaning that modern Palestinians are directly descended from the region’s Jews from antiquity. This has been proven countless times by genetics, no they aren’t descended from “Arab settlers” but rather their ancestors were Arabized which is a completely different topic altogether. There weren't even enough Arabs in late antiquity to physically replace the population of the Levant.

>>18521436 (OP)
>In 1917, Britain wrote a 67-word letter that promised a land it didn't own, to a people who didn't live there, over the heads of those who did.
Absolute dog shit disinformation. Lord Balfour wasn't acting as Prime Minister when he released his declaration. He was an unpopular Prime Minister, serving just 3 years before he and his party suffered a crushing defeat that resulted in him resigning as PM, and even losing his seat in parliament.

The Balfour Declaration was not codified British law and meant nothing at the time it was released.

>>18530833
>The Balfour Declaration was not codified British law and meant nothing at the time it was released
Why would a Rothschild and jews in general attribute such a significance to it?

>>18530839
Because it represents jewish control of Britain: Balfour was viewed as an unserious politician by his peers. I
People of that era thought he was downright weird and displayed odd mannerisms.

Balfour was very likely a predecessor to Winston Churchill, failed Englishman who needed funds and could be bought to serve the interests of Zionism.

>>18530804
not the 800k jews living in middle eastern countries subject to forced removal, who had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Israel

>>18530827
>This has been proven countless times by genetics
Then lets see a source.