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bordiga.party respect buttonBarbarian7060>>7063>>7065>>7078>>7098
I recently found out about this site through the bald cartoon man with glasses site, and I just want to say that it's nice knowing that there's actually an online space for discussion such as this one. I'm a Marxist, I wouldn't really describe myself as a follower of the Bordiga current (I side with Lenin on the national question) but I do consistently prefer Leftcoms over every other kind of self-identified 'communist' out there. You are the only ones who really understand Marxism and consistently hold the positions that should be the norm for all revolutionary socialists. Every time I see a discussion about socialism that isn't by Leftcoms, it's usually plagued by inane Stalinoid retards or other group of lunatic who believes in 'socialist commodities'. Not to mention that you can into shitposting. I doubt I'll be using this site, but I'm still glad that it exists. Avanti, barbari! And best wishes to all.
Barbarian7065
>>7060 (OP) A lot of people here believe Lenin on the national question too you’re in fine company
Barbarian7066
>>7063 im trans btw, if that matters
Barbarian7067>>7158
Didn't Bordiga side with Lenin on the national question? Literally the reason why he split with Damen.
Barbarian7071>>7077
>>7063 >rights Vote for liberals and hope they press the reform gender laws button. All self-id, informed consent and other such reforms are like all reforms just patching up decaying systems. The only way to permanently improve our lives is the abolition of the first class distinction (sex) which can only happen concurently with the abolition of all classes. I don't doubt my life would be easier without the bureocracy and ire of doctors, but all "fundamental" "inalienable" human rights only exist in so far as they don't conflict with bourgoeise governance and will be removed with the stroke of a pen when capital is in crisis and needs them gone.
Barbarian7077
>>7071 Adding onto this trans people like all minority populations are primarily hyper exploited proletarians. When the state isn't actively liquidating us the worst discrimination is always in terms of jobs and housing, leaving trans people working dog shit jobs and at an increased risk of becoming homeless. So trans interests are proletarian interests, unless it's a petite bourgoisie content creator talking about them, then it's just liberal feminism 2.0
Barbarian7078>>7079
>>7063 >"rights" GET OFF THIS SITE >>7060 (OP) you should use this site, sharty has been dead since 2024 and this site hasn't even had a chance to blossom.
Barbarian7082>>7084
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keeps checking the bordy award
Barbarian7093>>7094
>>7088 redraw of existing variants award, barely posted on his own website award
Barbarian7094
>>7093 you need to just accept thats its over, by all accounts its over, and the only thing quote and the rest of the splinters can do is JSIDA.
Barbarian7098>>7101>>7102>>7160
>>7060 (OP) also unironic question, do you think its seriously over for sharty users politically? Its always been a chud website but they did have /leftysoy/ for a minute, hopefully the bordy will be a sane alternative to leftypol The revolution will look like a massive party, a bordiga.party
Barbarian7101
>>7098 Not OP but the sharty is dominated by a general idea of "common sense" ( which is just right wing populism in practice ) politic where thing that feel bad must be bad, then there are the actual full on nazis and leftists.
Barbarian7102>>7105>>7121
>>7098 They are far right but in a different fashion they are far more puritan, anti-anime,anti-pedophilia (atleast performativly). They are basically kiwi farms but without terfs
Barbarian7105>>7135>>7184
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>>7102 They hate Xitter rightoids in the pic rel as they are gooners outside of the soykiwisphere most rightoids (even natsocs) are gooners due jerk of to loli 'p and 'boy (femboys are a pedophilic culture if that matters)
Barbarian7121
>>7102 they're just altrightards zoomers with stunted sexual and emotional development due to being raised by imageboards and twitter, there's no meaningful political difference
Barbarian7137
>>7135 >Total femboy death! Even though they make my clitty wet
Barbarian7144
>>7135 TSMT 'boys are a grooming subculture that originated from the glowiepot that is 4cuck xheir purpose is to trick teenage boys to send 'p to groomers and discourage Trans women and men from transitioning
Barbarian7148>>7149
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I remember they banned me because mustard, he never said why, but now they ban every communist anarchist and more probably. They think i have some extreme form of DID because i ban evaded a couple times. Also my retarded dengist sibling used the same forum as me and because we shared an ip they thought I was larping as him. Image unrelated
Barbarian7149
>>7148 I ban evaded around 6 times on this website already
Barbarian7151
I evade it by using vpns
Barbarian7160
>>7098 The only way the sharty could be fixed is if a cultural revolution were implemented and all reactionary garbage on the sharty and wiki removed.
Barbarian7184>>7201>>7208
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>>7105 >femboys are a pedophilic culture if that matters
Barbarian7208
>>7184 Soyteens are right about Femboys,porn,incels,Gooner culture and lolicons which makes them better than 80% of rightoids by default which is a low bar
Barbarian7213
On this note, drag culture is basically inherently a minstrel show for transfemininity -- there's always an element of "haha look at the man dressing and behaving like a woman lolll". You can try to give it a "positive" spin, but that element will always be present
Barbarian7230>>7233>>7279
There is no communist outside of the party and there is currently no party! We are role players here just as much as any others, just more historically accurate in our LARP. But to say I haven’t learned a lot of Lenin thanks to this board and its predecessor would be a lie. Online Marxism is like online atheism. Fundamentally not changing any conditions of the real world, just selfish knowledge seeking for petty intellectuals. And that’s fine. I hate LARPers who pretend to be revolutionaries
Barbarian7233
>>7230 >Online Marxism Then be IRL Marxist
Barbarian7236
>You are the only ones who really understand Marxism and consistently hold the positions that should be the norm for all revolutionary socialists. GEEEEEG! ... wait he's being serious?
Barbarian7279>>7282
>>7230 > there is currently no party In your learned opinion after much experience surely
Barbarian7282>>7295
>>7279 >hello i am a part of lotta communista and i would like to groom you into translating slop articles on the topic of iran o algo
Barbarian7295>>7299
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>>7282 Genuinely come up with a new cliche to use as a diversion
Barbarian7298>>7301
Anonymity is all well and good but there's always than one person who has beef with this party I have never heard of before and you always know when it comes up that it's them
Barbarian7301>>7310
>>7298 hey that's me i don't have beef with them i think they're just a very funny falsifier group that i use a stand-in for anything, mostly because i dont think i've seen a single person has ever defended them or claimed to be affiliated with them so it's easy pickings
Barbarian7310>>7320>>7331
>>7301 It's kinda hard to get some unusual info on them. They seem to be lumped in as "leftcom". What exactly is your criticism of them?
Barbarian7320>>7323>>7327
>>7310 easy criticisms/things that are easy to make fun of: 1) long-standing attempts at cooperation with trotskyists, workerists, anarchists 2) very trot-like attempts at preaching, you know, shilling newspapers on the streets, campus activity, etc 3) quite possibly the worst designed website and newspaper out of any leftcom group 4) their newspaper just fucking reeks 5) really bizarre charity/donation policies that are more fit in some sort of christian non-profit than a party/political organization 6) literal door-to-door salesman activities 7) idiotic positions on various things, just check their paper really. if you want i can elaborate on this but i am feeling lazy today 8) their publishing is 90% recycled collected works of marx and engels
Barbarian7327>>7330
>>7320 I see. The newspaper thing in particular always confused tf out of me. Do the people who insist on that practice not understand that the means of propaganda have evolved beyond the early 20th century?
Barbarian7329
>>7323 YEP it sure does, it's bleak out there, but i am partial to at least a few ICC articles i've read so i hold off
Barbarian7330
>>7327 well i don't know, i find it's generally indicative that an organization is being run like shit either explicitly for profit (le professional revolutionaries) or by people who are completely fucking ancient or usually both
Barbarian7335
>>7331 this about sums it up, yeah. i make fun of them because to me lotta communista is basically every problem with the current "parties" and organizations lumped into one group, i don't really have any respect for them but it's not as a result of any personal experience or legitimate disdain towards their members
Barbarian7355
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The sharty is fucking gay, /qa/ was it. And will always be it... We should just continue with our own invented jokes... >;-DDDDDDDD
Barbarian7408
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