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Something that I haven't seen emphasized yet in the beta discussion is that at least in my experience, betas are generally giving suggestions rather than saying that something must be changed. If I'm saying "I don't think this line makes sense" I'm not saying it has to be changed, just that it's confusing to me, and maybe to others, but that you are in no way required to change it if it's a stylistic choice, or you just like it like that. If I suggest a different word choice, you're always free to ignore me. There's also a chance that I'm wrong! I'm human, you're human, we can make mistakes. Some of my suggestions are also personal opinion on how to say something, but in english there's usually no singular way to represent something!
I spent some time as copy editor for a newspaper before I moved up to senior board, but I still do a lot of copy work for it as we don't have a copy editor currently (copy is what we call the editing process of our articles, so similar to proofreading as a beta). We work in google docs and as we edit articles, we always use the suggestion mode to make sure we aren't making changes unilaterally that wouldn't be noticed, and that could be wrong. After two rounds of editing (one for grammar and one for fact-checking, although the latter is probably more relevant to newspaper than fic), the author of the article could go through the comments and decide if they agreed that they used one word too much or a paragraph should be moved to make a line flow better or to add a sentence, etc. or just ignore the comment. Their name would be on the article, so authors always have the final say.
There's obviously some differences in these two types of writing (especially as for newspaper work I have to follow a style guide and make comments about capitalization or how we write people's titles that had to be changed), and I can only talk more about shorter pieces as articles are only so long, but the "Suggestion Mode" method of thinking about betaing is something that I retain in fandom and I think is a good way to think about it.
If you want to soften the blow as a beta, try phrasing your comment as a suggestion rather than a fact to avoid coming across as negative or accusatory. If you are the author and you're scared of rejection or harsh words, try to think of your beta's comments as light suggestions from a friend on improvements rather than them criticizing you, harsh, etc. They don't think you're a bad writer just because they said you used the word "glowing" too many times in one paragraph, and their opinion of you does not depend on your skill or your work, but who you are. It may not work for every case as everyone's preferences are different, but this "Suggestion Mode" method of working/thinking can help ease friction between betas and authors and I hope it helps!
Thanks for giving your perspective on things!
As someone who likes to beta, I find it so so helpful when an author can tell me what style of feedback they prefer or don’t want! I think sometimes writers who are new to working with a beta don’t realize this is allowed, but especially for fanfic where there’s no style guide to worry about, we can absolutely tailor the kind of notes we give you.
Sometimes that’s suggested changes for SPAG and unclear phrasing, sometimes that’s highlighting lines to flag with comments or questions, sometimes it’s big-picture developmental notes on the pacing or story progression or character voice, sometimes it’s “omg please just fix my accidental tense changes,” sometimes it’s “please don’t suggest wording changes, just let me know anywhere you’re confused,” sometimes it’s even just “hey can you hype me up? I’m nervous about this one.”
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Second this! When I first started writing for fandom, someone offered to beta for me and as I had never done it before,...
Something that I haven't seen emphasized yet in the beta discussion is that at least in my experience, betas are...