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Is Gaijin a slur?
To what extent do people think gaijin is a slur? I agree it can be used with negative connotations, but I don’t know if I’d go so far as calling it a slur. Really interested in hearing other opinions on this
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For Americans that don't have a very strong command of Japanese (or no understanding at all), a simple explanation I use that they can relate to is to compare it to the English word "Jew."
Jew is both used by the Jewish people and others in a matter of fact, non-insulting way.
However, when intentionally used in a very specific context and delivery, you can use the word as a slur and a pejorative.
This is an excellent comparison.
Excellent comparison. The word itself is just "meh". What makes all the difference is the delivery and context.
I'm personnaly quite sure that most of the people offended by gaijin have little grasp of the subtelty of the language and throwing some true slur at them would not make them react.
I've found that it depends on the context. There's a difference between, for instance, a kid going "woah, a gaijin!" and an older person going "ugh, a gaijin." Sure it's a shortened form of the more polite "gaikokujin" but tone plays a big role in how to recieve it.
This. Some kids say it trying to be cool. Some old guys say it because they are just rude.
Occasionally I hear the ‘Gaijin san ’ which baffles me a bit.
What really pisses me off is when I hear it at work when customers say it in front of me like I’m invisible.
I've had kids point at me and yell英語人 !, which really made my day.
Exactly this. Intentions matter.
It was a rude way to talk about foreigners. It’s not something that is particularly polite. If you hear it from someone in a formal setting, it’s definitely negative.
If a shop staff or a nurse or something uses it then they’re being rude.
If someone is walking through the airport and loudly saysうわ!外人が多いんだぜー that’s not particularly polite either.
A lot of people really want this word to just be a short version of 外国人 but let’s be real, the original use of it was meant to be rude.
One could argue that “Jap” is just a short version of “Japanese” but we all know that’s a load of shit
It’s actually a slur according to the broadcasting code of Japan. As for real life you still here it, with or without any ill intent.
Its a more blunt/shortened way of saying gaikokujin. It's definitely not polite to say it or be told you are one, but its not necessarily a slur. It has the same association as when you hear someone say "sigh, foreigners."
WaniKani uses “foreign person” as the meaning for 外国人, and the more blunt “foreigner” as the meaning for 外人. I think that’s pretty similar to the nuance you’re trying to convey here.
It is a slur. Though the online-Anglophone-immigrants-in-Japan community likes to debate the slurriness of the word every so often, the fact that the Japanese population around me does not use it shows pretty conclusively that it is a slur.
Remember that slurs are sometimes used by people who don't intend them to be taken as slurs, but that doesn't mean they magically stop being slurs.
As an anecdote, I was part of a local folk dance group in Japan. You know it's a slur when they told Japanese people that didn't know me that I was henna gaijin with the intentional meaning that I "wasn't like other gaijin".
I wouldn't say it was a slur. Certainly not on the same level as racial slurs that you might hear on stormfront or something like that.
Korea, China, India and SE Asia have similar words that have the same function of saying 'not one of us' - (Waegook, Laowai, Gora, Farang)
That concept perhaps isn't considered rude in Asia.
If a BBC news report said 'A foreigner was involved in a shooting today', we would consider that odd, why not just say 'An Italian or a Somali'. The onus would be on where the person is from. Whereas in Asia there would be an undue focus on the fact that the person isn't from here. It's all relative.
It should be noted that “gora” in India only refers to white people. Not the same as “foreigner”.
Don’t forget gweilo
I think it’s just a cultural difference. In the west, it’s normal to distinguish and group people by race, where as in Asia, it is commonly done by nationality. You never hear news refer to people as black or white or Asian here but it’s normal in the US.
I'd say it's more become the standard expression without negative connotation, especially if there are young people using it. Seems like the more polite way to say foreigner has become 外人さん
Anything is a slur if you want it to be. That's the magic of language.
It might not be intended as a slur by people who are saying it, but it very often is used exactly like a slur.
If a little old lady were to say it to me I’d bear it, but if a business man says it then you know exactly what he means by it.
If a coworker you don’t particularly like uses it then you know exactly what is meant by it.
If the government where to use it then you would be afraid.
It’s a slur.
Gaijin is also just much easier to type and say than the more formal Gaikokujin. I think it is usually obvious when Gaijin is used as an insult. For most cases, people are just lazy or prefer more straightforward words. Best to interpret the use of word by context instead of blanket saying word is bad.
Gaijin also means outsiders. So, it's like saying you are not part of their group. Might seen to be a small thing for us but it's a big diss for the Japanese.
One factor that determines whether a word is a slur or not is if it has a history of being used as a derogatory term for a group of people. I don’t know whether the word “gaijin” is a slur or not, but if I were to find out that it actually has a history of being used in that way, I’d be convinced that it’s a slur.
Edit to add: The way I deal with the word is to not use it. I’ve only heard from a couple of people accounts of the word being used in a discriminatory way, and while that isn’t enough to convince me it’s a slur, I think the probability that it’s a slur is high enough that I shouldn’t use it.
Edit: Given the history of the word on Wikipedia, I’m convinced it’s a slur (thanks PaxDramaticus!)
Well, let's see what Wikipedia-sensei has to say:
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(later on in the page)
Now, we all know the warnings about using Wikipedia as research, but those are pretty well-cited claims and I am prepared to accept the medieval Japanese literary analysis given over my own dubious expertise on the subject. The facts are:
'gaijin' is clearly not a shortening of 'gaikokujin', as we have evidence of it being used to describe Japanese people.
From its very first recorded usage, its definition was tied to someone's outsider status and implied untrustworthiness, not their nationality.
That settles it for me, it’s a slur. Thanks for the research!
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nah, I am what I am not sure why someone would get upset over it.
I wouldn't call it a slur at all. I don't see why people get upset by being called gaijin. Sure if someone said it in a negative way, that's upsetting but that's the person's attitude, not the word they used that's effed up. I think the people who watched Tokyo Drift have got it into their heads that gaijin is a bad word.
I was watching my kid at Aikido practice one time from the stands (little bleachers for parents /viewers) and I muttered something to my wife about him being pretty good for a gaijin (I was kidding with her) and a Japanese woman in front of me whom I hadn't noticed turned to me and put her hand over her mouth and said "Oh!", looking surprised. I apologized quickly and felt stupid. But apparently it's not just white guys who've seen Tokyo Drift who feel it's an inappropriate term.
Would you point to someone on the street and say, "look, a foreigner"? Even saying something like, "look at that Chinese/whitey/Jap/Latino/etc." is pretty rude.
Edit: Think of "kanai" (literally "inside-the-house person") for "wife". It's still used but considered pretty regressive. On top of that, a Caucasian person born in Japan would still be called "gaijin", which just illustrates the word is a sorting mechanism to separate "national family" from "outsiders"--that's pretty discriminatory/racist.
It really is about connotation, but usually the connotation is bad. I find if they're trying not to make it negative, they'll say gaikokujin or gaijin san.
Don't forget that japan is heavily customer service based society and Japanese people are very aware of how they speak and what they say at all times. Especially considering it's additionally a vertical society and they absolutely _must_be able to switch between casual nihongo and keigo on a whim, because if they don't they get into trouble by making the opponent upset/angry. Even Japanese kids know this, let alone adults. They are supposed to say gaikoku no kata or at least gaikokujin but most of the time intentionally choose to say gaijin simply because in their head they separate us and them. Aka you're not Japanese so you're automatically a lower lifeforms. Ever seen someone say "gaijin" on a Japanese TV?
Did you notice that Japanese omotenashi culture often tends to evaporate when they switch between a Japanese customer and a foreign customer? It definitely happens because japanese automatically see themselves as senpais and foreigners as kohais so they treat foreigners accordingly.
Also notice how they say nippon/nipponjin instead of nihon/nihonjin on special occasions like the Olympics or when it comes to comparing Japan to other countries. You may think there's no difference at first. But it's also a similar way of making them feel superior. Nippon basically implies "glorious superior japan, not like some dirty gaikoku you have there". Losing war to inferior gaijins left many many Japanese butthurt even to this day, especially older people, and there's also this "white foreigner complex" they have.
And who can forget the notorious anti foreigner movement in their wagons with megaphones blaring their garbage at max volume? Living next to a road and I hear them pass every day.
People in Tokyo hold themselves better but oh boy here in Osaka they will absolutely let you know that you're a gaijin, even in business environment.
Japan is no stranger when it comes to passive aggressive behavior.
This is a really interesting point, thanks for sharing!
If you care about this at all, 絶対外人だ