I dunno guys. I'm just starting to notice that whenever a society starts thinking like this, the Jews get fucked over. Maybe it's not, you know, a good idea or whatever. Maybe it's, like, eugenics. But I just have a degree in sociology and political violence, what do I know?
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jumanjihyo said: @just-a-little-unionida I wasn’t expecting an actual conversation from the moment you dropped a Wikipedia link that contradicts and muddles your own point w nothing else added don’t worry lmao I do wish you would actually look into those things and inform yourself on the sequence of events and on definitions (especially as it pertains to words that a minority uses and its definition being changed by people not from that minority and then hurled as an insult… i don’t think you’d feel comfortable with that in any other context (hopefully)). Holding out for the day you’re open to hear any point out and not just lock into conversation stoppers, or maybe look into what indoctrination tends to aim to do…. i wouldn’t conflate that with education if i were you but i can see how you got to that point. Thanks for being honest about not being able to do this, that’s appreciated
just-a-little-unionida said: @jumanjihyo okay so, the thing is, and you might disagree with that if you want but then we might stop talking because we just won’t ever agree, whatever “zionism” is, that’s what leaded to the current genocide in Gaza, to the murders and deportation in the West Bank, to all the fucking wars Israel had goten in just in the past few months, and the murders and deportations it provoked. And all that? It’s bad. Like, the is just straight up no justification for it. It’s hurting not only the people Israel attack but ALSO Israeli people. And if you think Isreal’s actions are justified or in any way proportional to the threat it is under, then I’m sorry but you’ve been properly indoctrinated and we just won’t be able to have an actual discussion.
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jumanjihyo said: @just-a-little-unionida Btw i know it sounds nuts (bc it is, it’s insane behavior) but the fact that Wikipedia articles having to do w Jews have been altered over the years has quite literally been documented - it’s been the case with a few other indigenous groups as well, including in foreign languages - you’re just not in those circles so you wouldn’t know, and that’s okay, but please understand that you seem to be unaware of a lot of things here There are quite a few things in that article that don’t track with what you’re proposing “antizionism” is as it pertains to what you’re implying Zionism in general is… like as a concept and a philosophy overall, what the base beliefs are, what some offshoots are, which ones are relevant here etc.
just-a-little-unionida said: @jumanjihyo I agree with the wikipedia article.
just-a-little-unionida said: @bellebonnesage I’m sorry but it isn’t
just-a-little-unionida said: @bellebonnesage yeah sure, definitely, that’s what happened
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jumanjihyo said: @just-a-little-unionida That’s not you, that’s wikipedia.. but thanks for trying ig
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bellebonnesage said: @just-a-little-unionida All the Wikipedia articles involving Jews have been mutilated. They are not accurate, and they are so far from trustworthy as to be laughable.
bellebonnesage said: @just-a-little-unionida There’s no reason to fight against Zionism. Zionists is a good thing.
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