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The United States rejects the proposal to annex Texas and so the Texians keep an independent nation, fighting the Mexicans to secure a western frontier on the Rio Grande.

In the same world as the smaller U.S., this California and Oregon

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I’m curious, that long tip at the top, what would that population be in the modern US in this region?

It stretches into parts of Wyoming at the tip and some of the least populated parts of Colorado iirc, so I’d guess maybe 200-300k? I think their largest city in the area would be Pueblo at ~100k (incorporated 1885).

For reference, the New Mexico Territory of the US had a population of 61k in 1850 / 94k in 1860, the Wyoming Territory in 1870 had 9k, and the Colorado Territory had ~34k in 1860. If Texas had all those lands put together (~6 states worth) in 1860, it’d have just over 100k people in total. At this point in time I’d guess there were 10k or less past where the Rio Grande and Arkansas river get close.

Considering that they’d have to fight past the Comanche to get there and deal with contesting claims from the US and California, I think they’d realistically give up The Northernmost strip (settling it somewhere at the Sangre De Cristo Mountains) and their claims on parts of Oklahoma and West Louisiana (not pictured) in exchange for either some extra territory for rivers/railroads or money.

They'd have to fight past the Comanche (who had an alliance with New Mexico) and they'd have to navigate the vast featureless plains.

In the OTL the Texan attempt to invade Santa Fe failed because they got lost on the way and ended up getting rescued/captured by a Mexican military regiment and paraded down to Mexico City.

Wasn’t it for cattle runs or is that later history?

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It'd be quite empty I imagine, since it's all proper tall mountains, maybe ski resorts?

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I think a US who still expands westward would try to buy that panhandle off for ease of travel and maybe rails

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Here it is!

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I love independent Texas TLs.

One question: does that leave Mexico with California, New Mexico, and Arizona? 

Either they are independent states or there is border gore in the United States 

Never mind, I've already seen the other maps and they're the two options below. 

In this scenario I'm assuming New Mexico doesn't really exist anymore because they would fight to the death before getting split in half by Texas like that.

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Why did the United States reject the proposal to annex Texas?Could you explain what events in American history prevented Texas from being annexed? But good map.

The U.S. was busy sorting itself out after a more troublesome War of 1812, problems in New England

O thanks, your alt history universe looks interesting.

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OTL, the vote was very close as it was

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If Texas never became a state, then how did the US still manage to steal Greer County from us in this universe?

Oh lovely, I’m a born Texan and I think these provinces are very charming and sensible

What are the subdivisions of this Texas called? Would it still have a sizable German speaking population, deciding in the WWs that they make for good espionage and interpreters?

Am I crazy or is part of te northern Texas panhandle too short

Nice map! This is a great timeline you got building up

Texas would be like Canada, 2 Languages Fighting

Someone please destroy that panhandle it’s pissing me off

Independent Texas would never work. They’d miss manage themselves like they did in OTL and then beg like bitches to be part of another country like they did twice in OTL

I have hope for Texas🙏

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President Greg Abbott (National Conservative Party) Prime Minister Ted Cruz (NCP) National Assembly Speaker John Cornyn (NCP) National Council Chairman Dan Patrick (NCP) Deputy Prime Minister Dan Crenshaw (NCP) Chief Cabinet Secretary Ken Paxton (NCP)

Having Dallas as the Seat of Governance disgusts me.

Isn’t it more likely that independent Texans vote to reject annexation than expansionist U.S. votes to reject annexation?

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Levelland and Brownfield just got yeeted out of the south plains lmao. Good map! It’s got my home town on it :)