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Shut the fuck up retard.
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>>2760448chud is old news
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shut the fuck up gook
▶ №2760457[Quote]>>2760466
>>2760448Because its a /pol/ exclusive or whatever or something,].
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>>2760448ask wikingtog it was implemented because of him
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How do you feel about the fact that large international money (bankers, industrialists, etc) were the main funders of communist revolutions historically and main proponents and funders of marxism and similar ideologies?
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>>2760459that guy is weird i don't wanna talk to him
>>2760457Interesting
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>>2760459still not sure how he did that
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are you a woman or a tranny why do you keep slef inserting as tzhis fuckign thing
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>>2760468It's leftypol's mascot
▶ №2760471[Quote]>>2760532
Why is communism different than red fascism.
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alunya delcatty deathmatch when
▶ №2760476[Quote]>>2760532
>>2760431 (OP)Who do you support in the Russo-Ukraine war?
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Op here. Forgot to mention that i'm trans btw if that matters
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>>2760468she's a valid transgirl
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>>2760468he's a
>Cultured Thug | Anarch living in clown world | Alt-Left sociopath | Conservative Revolution enjoyer | Advocate for the warrior-worker mentality.see
https://xcancel.com/ChudLeftism888/ ▶ №2760486[Quote]>>2760501
Are penguins Aryan?
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>>2760503alunya threads are always retardkino
▶ №2760508[Quote]>>2760535
>>2760442Once AI advances past its current experimental stage and is able to reliably start replacing real human workers it will be a complete game-changer. Right now most of the AI hype is a bubble pushed by investors and tech illiterate boomers. However, this will not keep on being the same in the future.
In my vision, we will see an expansion of automation similar to the one in the first industrial revolution, and possibly even worse, as those middle-class workers who previously deemed manual labor as unfit for them will now flood blue collar jobs, increasing the supply of manpower and bringing about even worse work conditions. Unless the elites bother to sustain the lower classes through welfare, a large quantity of workers will be left to starve in the streets.
Marx talks about this in Das Kapital, drawing parallels to the adoption of the power loom and the hundreds of thousands of artisans who were left to their luck in 18th century England. (or 19th, can't remember)
▶ №2760527[Quote]>>2760556
Why do you self-insert as a woman
▶ №2760530[Quote]>>2760544>>2760563
>>2760517seeing that makes me sad about alunya i hope xhe does that charity lefty monastary coop thing
▶ №2760532[Quote]>>2760551>>2760554>>2760603
>>2760448It's shit nolenin cares about.
>>2760454Can't believe you guys genuinely fell for it.
>>2760468This is irrelevant.
>>2760471Because fascism in most of its variations does not stop the machinery of capitalism.
>>2760476Neither of them. It is a pointless war between two tribes settling a border dispute. Conflicts like these shouldn't even be thought of in the 21st century.
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>>2760508They will just depopulate the planet, as they are currently doing with the whites.
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>>2760530I hope they stay homeless and get aids from niggers buttfucking them
▶ №2760551[Quote]>>2760601
>>2760532do u not think Russia is at least justified in their invasion due to NATO/Western expansion?
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>>2760532Thoughts on Guillaume Faye, and Archeofuturism?
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>>2760527this is the leftypol mascot
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>>2760530vpn tags are back? admins doing anything atp
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>>2760561Well…he certainly has feelings towards it since he experienced it, though not consensually.
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>>2760535Well, if they see no opposition from the masses, then yes, there would be nothing to stop them from doing that. Which is why we need class consciousness. It all makes sense, doesn't it?
>>2760544Is that your gay fantasy?
>>2760551Given the choice between piss and shit, what would you choose?
>>2760554I'm not too familiar with him or his works, but from the little I can gather that he's just another budget Nietzsche.
▶ №2760603[Quote]>>2760659
>>2760532The problems with reds such as yourself is that you're incapable of understanding the fact that free trade and individual small burgoise entreprise has always existed and will always exist and that it isn't inherently bad as alternatives that propose governmental replacement of capitalist business fail to understand the rationale behind business decisions and as a result always end up financially unsustainable.
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>>2760592Even though its a saturnian ritual actually.
▶ №2760612[Quote]>>2760659
>>2760601"class consciousness" is fairy dust, it doesn't exist. You need first to fix the morality of the people for them to be able to achieve anything and that can only be achieved through fundamentalist Orthodoxy of course.
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>>2760601Well…it isn't a fantasy considering all leftists were raped at least once in their lives.
▶ №2760627[Quote]>>2760631>>2760645
op here, I forgot to mention that I got molested by my uncle
▶ №2760630[Quote]>>2760659
>>2760601>Given the choice between piss and shit, what would you choose?so you do think russia is justified or you still not taking a side?
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>>2760627Don't worry we can tell.
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What is capitalism doe, could you give a definition?
▶ №2760637[Quote]>>2760659
Stfu "Emil"
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>>2760431 (OP)Do you believe all humans are inherently equal from the moment they are born?
▶ №2760659[Quote]>>2760667>>2760668>>2760671>>2760686>>2760732>>2760738
>>2760603>free trade and individual small burgoise entreprise has always existed and will always existObjectively wrong. Basically every single hunter-gatherer society and most neolithic farmer societies practiced primitive communism.
>>2760612Thank you for this reply, it made me laugh.
>>2760625Thanks for not saging this time canaclit.
>>2760630I am not taking a side indeed. Petty politics are beneath me. I don't mean to sound like a neckbeard here but I mean it seriously. The moment people start worrying about true problems instead of who is technically right in a border war will be a great step for humanity.
>>2760637Lol.
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>>2760659You're welcome clitmmunist.
▶ №2760668[Quote]>>2760791
>>2760659I'm talking about civilized society, not tribals even then tribes bartered with each other for goods. It is in human nature to desire what others want and a way to do so without killing each other is trade.
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>>2760659>I am not taking a side indeed. Petty politics are beneath me. I don't mean to sound like a neckbeard here but I mean it seriously. The moment people start worrying about true problems instead of who is technically right in a border war will be a great step for humanity.take advantage of the chaos and use it for your own benefit. With war people can become radicalised
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Okay forestrebelemil
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>>2760601>Guillaume Faye>"Budget Nietzche"Please rape this user
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>>2760712he's a leftypol indonesian, what did you expected
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sex with alunya
▶ №2760732[Quote]>>2760791
>>2760659I'm sure commie countries didn't involve themselves in petty conflicts o algo
▶ №2760738[Quote]>>2760791
>>2760659>primitive communismMade up shit by Marx.
He just thought hunter gatherer societies were egalitarian and lived by the principles of each acording to his needs. Which is just false, they wre extremely violent, almost half the fighting-aged males in late Neolithic Europe showed skeletal evidence of violence and at least 10% died from it. And resource allocation was not egalitarian at all, you can just look at hunter gatherer societies today and groups pf people without feudal or bourgeoisie revolutions
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geg wtf is this thread
▶ №2760791[Quote]>>2760828>>2760833
>>2760668Stop moving the goalposts. Your original argument was that man is naturally inclined to capitalism.
Primitive communism proves that trading inside a single society is not obligatory, as man was originally able to live in small communities that shared their resources.
It is true that international trade is basically inevitable, usually because a certain society lacks a certain resource. However, this does not contradict socialism. Most socialists, although protectionist, do not disallow international commerce completely. The USSR is an example of this.
>>2760686True, but this is a whole another thing separate from whether Russia is justified or not.
>>2760702>In socialism everyone HAS to work, it is a mustWell, this is one of the flaws mainstream socialism has. But I and many other socialists do not share this opinion. As I said the other day, marxism should be based on scientific observation and not dogma, and it is clear that unemployment does sadly still exist under socialism.
>>2760712I know little about him. Stop leaking your clitty and explain instead.
>>2760732This is a flaw of nationalism, not communism.
>>2760738Primitive communism doesn't mean a perfect communist utopia in which there isn't conflict. It refers to the socioeconomic organization of those tribes, which did not have a hierarchy or private ownership. Conflict of course still existed, partly because of petty conflicts between the members, or maybe against marginalized members, but especially because of conflicts between different tribes.
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>>>2760668
>Stop moving the goalposts. Your original argument was that man is naturally inclined to capitalism.
>Primitive communism proves that trading inside a single society is not obligatory, as man was originally able to live in small communities that shared their resources.
>It is true that international trade is basically inevitable, usually because a certain society lacks a certain resource. However, this does not contradict socialism. Most socialists, although protectionist, do not disallow international commerce completely. The USSR is an example of this.
>>>2760686
>True, but this is a whole another thing separate from whether Russia is justified or not.
>>>2760702
>>In socialism everyone HAS to work, it is a must
>Well, this is one of the flaws mainstream socialism has. But I and many other socialists do not share this opinion. As I said the other day, marxism should be based on scientific observation and not dogma, and it is clear that unemployment does sadly still exist under socialism.
>>>2760712
>I know little about him. Stop leaking your clitty and explain instead.
>>>2760732
>This is a flaw of nationalism, not communism.
>>>2760738
>Primitive communism doesn't mean a perfect communist utopia in which there isn't conflict. It refers to the socioeconomic organization of those tribes, which did not have a hierarchy or private ownership. Conflict of course still existed, partly because of petty conflicts between the members, or maybe against marginalized members, but especially because of conflicts between different tribes.
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>>>2760668
>Stop moving the goalposts. Your original argument was that man is naturally inclined to capitalism.
>Primitive communism proves that trading inside a single society is not obligatory, as man was originally able to live in small communities that shared their resources.
>It is true that international trade is basically inevitable, usually because a certain society lacks a certain resource. However, this does not contradict socialism. Most socialists, although protectionist, do not disallow international commerce completely. The USSR is an example of this.
>>>2760686
>True, but this is a whole another thing separate from whether Russia is justified or not.
>>>2760702
>>In socialism everyone HAS to work, it is a must
>Well, this is one of the flaws mainstream socialism has. But I and many other socialists do not share this opinion. As I said the other day, marxism should be based on scientific observation and not dogma, and it is clear that unemployment does sadly still exist under socialism.
>>>2760712
>I know little about him. Stop leaking your clitty and explain instead.
>>>2760732
>This is a flaw of nationalism, not communism.
>>>2760738
>Primitive communism doesn't mean a perfect communist utopia in which there isn't conflict. It refers to the socioeconomic organization of those tribes, which did not have a hierarchy or private ownership. Conflict of course still existed, partly because of petty conflicts between the members, or maybe against marginalized members, but especially because of conflicts between different tribes.
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>>2760801I can't.
these clittymmunistfails will never rot or die! to put it simply… kek, its kino!
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niggers
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>>2760801YOU OF ALL PEOPLE CANNOT BE SAYING THIS MiSS TELEGRAM STICKER PACK
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>This is a rather accurate descripter of my cultural values condensed to a singular image tbh, above all else, I love masculinity and despise femininity and traditional womanhood.
>
>Until the women are masculinized, they don't deserve rights, for the tomboys shall inherit the earth
op's unironic gay btw
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>>2760791>Well, this is one of the flaws mainstream socialism has. But I and many other socialists do not share this opinion. As I said the other day, marxism should be based on scientific observation and not dogma, and it is clear that unemployment does sadly still exist under socialism.If someone does not work but still recieves benefit from the labour of the working class then he is no different that le hekin bourgeusie or however it is spelled
>does not work but could>gains benefits from the labour of others>the gain is an eexces value of what the workin class producesno real difference beetween that and a "bourgeusie"
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>>2760810>Because a far-right accelerationist already!its ESL…
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>>2760796this looks like doo doo
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>>2760855Alunyafag wants to debate SNCA, we are discussing is capitalism is a natural human drive or not.
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>>2760855Aloona makes another dogshit thread (like usual) and /pol/niggers soy the fuck out because "muh heking namefag guuyyyyaaaass!!!!!!!!".
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>>2760824This actually made me laugh.
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>>2760855some autist found a youtube channel of a commie that uses the sharty and told a joke that it is alunyafag
after that some canadiandietys clitty leaked and he started spamming a thread with the link to it
After that the alunyafag took a vpn and made a falseflag raaid thread on xhimself o algo
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capitalism is jewish and emasculatory, just like communism /thread go dilate now emil
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emil>alunya>emilya>amelia
oy vey i think
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welcome back
what are your thoughts of douglasite social credit theory
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>>2760914honest question: what's the point of discussing those political and economical ideologies?
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>>2760924So that we feel validated in what we believe is the truth and we aren't idiots for following it.
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>>2760930but why the need you all have to believe and follow such ideologies? like they will never be implemented, and even if it happens eventually you shilling it doesn't change a thing
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>>2760924economics are the absolute critical factor in worldview or ideology if they are to be serious ones
finance, credit, labor, usury and political economy have ran the planet for several millenia now if only continued contemperaneous manifestations of varying theories
for example fascism, like marxism, is preeminently a macroeconomic lens of the world wherein everything else in its philosophy is derived from; the common ancestor of both fascism and left-wing populism, sorelianism, proves this to some degree
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>>2760963marge why did my flag revert to US instead of arkansas
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>>2760961you cant counter an argument defending the study of such ideologies with "itll never happen"
<niggeryou cant see into the future and we're both well aware that if history has proven anything, its that its almost entirely stochastic and governed by human agency
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>>2760967flags are busted, mine are worse than anyones though ill be in 5 different states throughout the day
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nigga it keeps doing it we have to rape quote now
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I love when these threads get a shit ton of replies despite the poster barely replying because people treat namefags as sacred mythical creatures.
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>>2761021nighas are just bored it aint that deep canuck
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>>2761024I know.
That doesn't change anything.
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>>2761021>>2761030youre basically a namefag too
▶ №2761050[Quote]>>2761307
>>2760963>economics are the absolute critical factor in worldview or ideologyit isn't doe. nothing you change, collectively or individually, by you thinking that the economics of your country should be organized this way or that way. the human part of such politics is relevant doe, because it changes your behavior and thoughts about your surroundings, and you can influence others to change it as well
>>2760983>you cant counter an argument defending the study of such ideologies with "itll never happen"I'm not countering any argument, I'm saying that discussing technical aspects of the state and economy is irrelevant when you don't have any kind of power to change it. furthermore, the human part comes first, because without it you can't have a functional collective to begin with
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Can someone fill me in on what I missed?
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>>2761178>fill me innusoi…
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Warhammer, but you're NPC so no
▶ №2761307[Quote]>>2761329
>>2761050the economics of a country decide the human part of politics, every ideology presupposes a metaphysis of man exclusively reliant on his material conditions
this is because the economy is the primordial essence of the human part of politics facilitating how humans interact on the most rudimentary level or, more specifically, it is the essence of the state before its institutions are built
material conditions delimit the space of possible political metaphysics, and though the argument could be made that economic activity presupposes a community, i dont deny that, economic activity also presupposes the binding of a community together and is therefore the solid bedrock of the human part of politics
<niggerthe human part of politics, i.e honor, duty, sacredness and virtue can be said to predate economics in spirit but this does not make them politically actual; the bedrock of politics,, i.e a particular civilizational view framing the value of wealth, exchange, and indeed value itself are what allow for political actuality to exist. the human part of politics are only genuine institutions of the state once a self-actualized national organism has, through a collective will, institutionalized itself. honor before the economy is tribal and personal but honor after the economy is law and rank
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marge why did the flag change
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>>2761307i should also make it clear im not at all marxist doebeit
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>>2761592There is literally no difference Kek
>the boergueisne gains money from the labour of proletariat without doing anything and getting money from the workers and thus he rips them off>the No-worker Gains money from the labour of proletariat by not contributing any labour himelf and still getting money from the government (the so called workers government BTW) without doing nothing and thus he rips them offThe difference is that the bourgousine is at the top while the no-worker is at the same level as other workers
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>>2761657marge why are you the only smart nigga in the thread
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>>2761709I'm average but whatever
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why does everyone here still fall for this retards bait?
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>>2760431 (OP)you're so hot, i love you alunya. total leftypol victory
